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Took me 3 hours to realise you actually linked me to another forum lol (despite you obviously saying you went to DCTP) so I was really confused when I found myself posting with another account... whatever @__@ I'm made a reply on there as Utsune, mainly about the perceived credibility of Rabu Conan because I'm not familiar with that magazine either. To link back to this topic here, I want to say it doesn't really concern me whether it's their real names or not, but I want to know whether Gin made an appearance on the Island with Sherry, and whether Anokata might have appeared alongside them (being in a different guestbook is an interesting point...) For all we know, there are big names in the political world and major corporations... all for a legend? I think not. Guests also include a slightly lower level BO member Vodka, so it's not a VVVVIP-only event. What are they there for in codenames? As bodyguards?

Why can't they communicate? Why can't they look each other in the eye? Why can't they get along? Because we can't love, I shed tears at the painful reality.

Funny you should say that. I went and dragged it over to one of the translators at DCTP and she said the name might be Kurosawa, and the name we can see entirely was probably Vodka's pun. I think I was in the wrong and the interview might be correct. http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2169&start=15#p777781 ranscript from the cbox, cut to the most relevant points with minor fixes. Chekhov MacGuffin: (27 Jun 13, 13:51) The mermaid guestbook came up again. What did I screw up, Fuji? http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/foru ... /?p=295425 Chekhov MacGuffin: (27 Jun 13, 13:53) It came up in regards to Q3 from this site: http://anokata.xxxxxxxx.jp/faq.html Chekhov MacGuffin: (27 Jun 13, 13:55) If I didn't mess anything up, I'm going to have to go back on my previous words that Vodka wasn't in the guestbook. Of course, a pun like that is probably not his real name, even though Sherry used her real name. Fujiwara: (27 Jun 13, 14:10) Awesome find that. My remarks: 魚塚 is definitely a play on Vodka just as you described. That's because it's not, in fact, a Japanese surname. I.e. no one uses it. Fujiwara: (27 Jun 13, 14:12) It could be read differently from Uotsuka, of course, but given how it's not an actual name and it's position in the guest book, either Vodka wrote it or it was a joke by Gosho, it was definitely intentional. Chekhov MacGuffin: (27 Jun 13, 14:12 - 27 Jun 13, 14:14) I noticed Wikipedia turned up zero people with the name. I'm guessing it was probably Vodka judging by the context. Shiho probably would get an escort. The elephant in the room is if the Gin part is true though. As in the name on the far right. Per the interview given in Q3 here: http://anokata.xxxxxxxx.jp/faq.html I doubt Vodka would use his real name, even if Shiho did. Fujiwara: (27 Jun 13, 14:15) No, since Vodka is a codename it would make no sense for it to be his real name. Esp. given how it's not, actually, a name that people use. Chekhov MacGuffin: (27 Jun 13, 14:16) By the way this might be useful: http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki ... _manga.PNG Fujiwara: (27 Jun 13, 14:18) Yes, well, all I can say is that the part of the next name that you see matches the Kanji for Kurosawa Jin (黒澤陣). Fujiwara: (27 Jun 13, 14:30) But, yeah, the Gin thing woud really depend on the veracity of that interview, since you can only see the tiny part of the name and the original rumor might have been based on that bit ... Chekhov MacGuffin: (27 Jun 13, 14:35) If you have any more remarks, now would be a good time Fujiwara: (27 Jun 13, 14:38) Well, there's alternate readings for the given name, I suppose, but Saburou seems the most prevalent and none of them give off any BO vibe. Here they are though: Mitsuo, Sanrou, Kazuo

@Chekhov Right, I don't mean to go too off topic, especially stupidly bringing up the same topic that everybody else have already discussed way before I joined lol. So just to wrap up on my end, after extensive research and a bit of thought, I'll take back the Kurosawa thing, but I'll leave the Uotsuka idea as it is. (I'll keep a mental note about the guidebook issue you've raised.) I also don't think it's his real name even if that really were Vodka's sig (if my previous post wasn't clear enough ^^; ) In any case, thanks for all your effort with the bunch of links! (P.S. I know Aoyama likes to play around with puns, but when the character 'fish' is in the name, we use "Uo" or very rarely 'irregular' pronunciations but never Sakana lol, give or take one family in the whole of Japan just to allow for the weirdest improbable )

A few years ago at DCTP forums and then later at the DCTP cbox (no records) and then the german http://detektivconan-forum.com/. The most recent English thread is here, and unfortunately has been messed up by the forum move. If you had an account at DCTP before the move, you can log in here and see the thread without errors. Throwing the name 三郎 into Wikipedia yields straight "Saburo"s 魚塚 is the radical for fish (sakana) and mound/heap/hillock (Tsuka, but appears to be -zuka when another sound is before it). Alternate readings for fish can give you "Uo". Uozuka (Uotsuka) works as the family name. Vodka rendered into Japanese is ウォッカ ウ = U kana ォ = Scaled-down o kana used to express morae foreign to the Japanese language ッ = "little tsu", in this case used to double a k sound. カ = ka So if you just jam the sounds together ignoring proper reading you get Uotsuka. Definitely it comes across as similar, so it's believable that Vodka wrote it in the book. (Then again I am not an experienced translator) That said, I don't think it is possible to prove that it is his real name instead of just a pun on his codename. Just because Shiho wrote her real name doesn't mean Vodka did so. I honestly don't trust most of the guidebooks, except for Conan Drill which appears to be the most official manga guide for the series. If I remember correctly there is one little note about the name: http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4399&p=225197&hilit=Conan+Drill+Vodka#p225197 It doesn't confirm anything and doesn't mention Gin.

the hiragana is さ

Ah you're right, although I was thinking more like they could be coded names (eg. ウォッカ becomes ウオ　ツカ as a pun) then again why isn't Miyano's name coded as well? Should've asked myself that beforehand... (Btw, it's the first time I've heard of Sakanazuka, who did you hear it from? But Uotsuka is definitely one way to pronounce the surname. But whichever way they pronounce the name, no way anyone can 'unsee' the pun on Uotsuka lol...) Also we only see O澤O, sorry I totally filled the gaps of my memories with this link I've read in the past: http://anokata.xxxxxxxx.jp/faq.html (3rd question) but I'm pretty gutted I don't have the original source to confirm this interview (though there are a few sources on the Internet pointing towards the same quote: あれ、見えないけど魚塚三郎の隣に 本当は黒澤陣って書いてあるんだよね。(That's not seen, but next to Uotsuka Saburou really is Kurosawa Jin written down.) If only there's a scan lol.......) And in his quote immediately before that, Aoyama did kinda admit to the name Kurosawa Jin (assuming this interview really is in Rabu Conan page77...) In no way am I saying they're real names, normally they'd be at least coded, right???? XD (Even if they're real names it wouldn't make sense--- do their real names come before the beverage naming convention or what? etc.) What bothers me the most is Shiho's name as it is. Unless there's somebody non-BO at the 'meeting/party' who knows Shiho or her parents... In any case, however much misleading Aoyama wants to make this, this level of red herring is just way too much to pass by! Edit: Just found the series of posts about this a few pages back, haha sorry for repeating. The muraji thing totally makes sense. Personally, more the reason to believe Ooguro being the boss, or at least one of the top-most directors/commander/whatever (but then again, we have James Black............. dammit.) Still doesn't solve the Uotsuka Saburou speculation though

Does any one know what hiragana it is on Vermouth's (De Tomaso Pantera) license plate so far I think it is "新宿 33, 7727" (新宿 Shinjuku) From the movie "The Raven Chaser"

Ask to join as a scientist. I mean, top of the line equipment in biochemistry? Yes please. Chances are they'd make a killer cover for me too and I could make a name for myself in legitimate research as well as the other stuff.