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And that's not getting into what new things Gosho may introduce—be they entirely new threads, or new elements to already existing threads—over the course of the next 100 files.

We've been waiting for this since the latter was introduced in October 2013... still no dice. First, the meeting got thwarted by Ran and Sonoko (File 903–File 905/Episode 787–Episode 788), and then Mary tells Masumi to "keep [her] guard up around... Conan Edogawa" (File 951–File 953/Episode 863–Episode 864). We can only hope Shinichi's appearance due to the APTX antidote and his interaction with Masumi will, sooner than later, lead somewhere. Just like Gosho has Shiho/Ai keep a lot of her BO knowledge to herself, he keeps Shinichi/Conan from meeting Mary—it means that Gosho doesn't want Shinichi/Conan, and, thus, we the audience, to know what Mary knows. Hopefully, with the developments of last year (Koji Haneda, Tsutomu Akai), it means we're gonna getting somewhere soon (well, soon in terms of how Gosho currently (currently as in 2003–present, and especially 2007–present) paces things).

Sure, Vermouth could try to kill her in secret, like the first time, and the only difference would be that the rest of the BO believed that Shiho/Sherry was alive the first time, and that the didn't believe so the third time. But I think this is the safest Shiho/Ai has felt in her life—which is quite something compared to how she must've felt, at the beginning—and this'll be the case until Vermouth actually tries again. She broke her promise to Shinichi/Conan once... without the excuse of Bourbon's involvement, and with the BO not looking for her, though, part of me wonders, if she is going to try again, what's she going to do differently that will bring about success?

That would be a B. So would Red Shirts also be a B (8 out of 10)? Is the Post Mystery Train part of the Bourbon arc (File 825–File 898/Episode 705–Episode 783) what brought the Bourbon arc down to a D for you? Would the Bourbon arc have been a C without it? That's been the case long before Mystery Train—it's been the case since she turned down the FBI's offer to go into witness protection (File 435–File 437/Episode 346–Episode 347). She may not be going anywhere, and Vermouth may know the truth about her "death," but my point is that the rest of the BO does not know.

So was Mystery Train a B or a C, then? And what about Red Shirts? Well, she's known for nearly 200 files/over 5 years, and hasn't made a move. If she's going to try again, what's going to be different in her third attempt at doing so? If nothing else, this has been a period where the BO no longer considers Shiho/Ai a threat to their secrecy. Shiho/Ai has always been either a part of the BO's system, or was sought after by all of them—this is the first time that neither one of these is true.

So, for instance, while Black Impact and Clash of Red and Black felt like Team Shinichi/Conan Vs the BO, Mystery Train and Scarlet Showdown just felt like Team Shinichi/Conan Vs Bourbon (a NOC) and Vermouth (a disloyal member, when it comes to Shinichi/Conan and Ran)? And then there's the length and repetition. Though I will say that Mystery Train created the new status quo of the BO thinking Shiho/Sherry is dead—upsetting the old status quo that had been a thing for over 600 files/just under 15 years—and that new status quo has held steady for nearly 200 files/over 5 years.

Think nothing of it. It can be pretty quiet on here—compared to DCTP, at least. And it didn't narrowly win out 1st place—it won by a wide margin. Seems they have different priorities and interests—they really seem to be into Shuichi and Rei/Toru/Bourbon, Heiji and Kazuha, and Shinichi and Ran. And they seem to want DC to keep on going, where many on here think that the fact that it's gone on this long is only to DC's detriment. They put Moonlight Sonata on there, as well as the Matsuda Serial Bomber case, the Mermaid case, Golden Apple and Desperate Revival. They seem to value those particular classics, at least. What are your grades for the other arcs (including the Rum arc, so far)?

On here? Sure. In Japan? Here's a pretty recent Shonen Sunday poll about the best DC cases (https://www.facebook.com/DCTheRedThread/posts/1549149298470351): 1. Scarlet Return - Vol.85 File 894-898 (8489 votes) 2. Mermaid's Curse - Vol.28 File 279-283 (5835 votes) 3. Moonlight Sonata - Vol.07 File 62-67 (5742 votes) 4. Holmes' Book of Revelation (London Arc) - Vol.71-72 File 743-752 5. Trembling Metropolitan Police HQ - Vol.36-37 File 369-373 6. Memories of the Sakura gumi (Shinichi and Ran's first meeting case) - Vol.87 - File 921-924 7. Ebisu bridge - Vol.83 - File 879-881 8. Golden Apple (Kudo Shinichi's NY case) - Vol.34+35 - File 350-354 9. Mystery Train - Vol.78 - File 818-824 10. Desperate Revival - Vol.26 - File 252-257 If so, then for the 2007–present period, more than anything else. I guess it depends on just what grade you give the Bourbon arc (whether you give it a C or an F).

So, in terms of grading DC's segments, we have (correct me if necessary, on the first two): 1994–2003: A 2003–2007: C 2007–present: F So what's the overall grade, for Detective Conan?

Except he wasn't into the non-BO cases, as far back as 10 years ago, and over the course of the past 10 years, he gave up on the BO ones, too. Well, even so, I'll tell you how it ended, when it does, then you can explain to me everything wrong with it, just so I can understand a perspective that, by that point—I think—will be the opposite of mine... if you don't mind that, of course. So if it's an F—straight-up terrible—does it go on the worst manga you've read list? Or is DC's worst still better than that?

Yikes. But the revelation of, say, Vermouth's backstory or Anokata's identity has gotta be worth a momentary peak, right? Just to see what Gosho chose to go with for the answers to the big questions. Just to see if it would've worked had DC ended in, say, 2005? So even if it was executed the best it could possibly be executed, the concept is too flawed for the result to be anything but... C, D or F (in other words, is the quality of 2007–present DC straight-up terrible (is it an F?), or is it below average (is it a D?...) to average (...or a C?))?

So you're joining Balthazar in abstaining from DC until we reach the end, then? Or are you of the opinion that there's no point in doing even that? Are there any aspects of 2007–present DC that you like, or are even "not bad" aspects just inferior versions of what used to be good or great?

Welcome back! Looks like File 1,000 pulled you back in—though, with a reaction like this, it seems you'll be jumping right back out. I hope, at this point, this isn't that bad for you. I would say, "we're just 1 file in," but, unfortunately, I think this case would have to pull a complete 180 to even have a chance of even beginning to turn things around for you.

If this guy is Heiji, then it could be that he's looking at his watch because of the APTX antidote—but unless Shiho/Ai were to trust him with that knowledge and unless she were to ask him to keep an eye out on Shinichi (and given both how rare the interaction between Heiji and Shiho/Ai is, and that the interactions between them we do have feature her calling him an idiot (Shiragami case)), that may not be the case at all.

RULES 1. Please use spoiler boxes until a full English translation is available. 2. NO DIRECT LINK to any Japanese scans (RAWs) or English scans (Japanese spoiler images are allowed as long as the amount and quality of which are very far away from a full scan). HOW TO USE A SPOILER BOX? Just simply type the following: [spoiler]Text you want to write[/spoiler] We made it, everyone—DC's 290th case begins with File 1000! Mad props to all DC fans, veteran or not—here's to you for hanging in there! Oh, and to Gosho and the 23 years and 7 months it took to get to this point. I will update this post when the spoiler pics become available. EDIT: File 1000 spoiler pics now out (File 1,000 is the exception to my page-limit rule... uh, unless, mods, that's still a violation—please let me know if it is): https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5256800482 Break next week—File 1,001 spoiler pics will be out in two weeks from today.

"The path to hell is paved with good intentions." I certainly get your point, but it's not a catch-all. So, regardless of your perception of a person's intent, be cautious? Fair enough.

Is Shinichi comparable with that guy from File 105–File 107/Episode 32 comparable? Sure—they've both got some work to do. But are they equivalent? Nope—putting Shinichi and that guy on the same level is false equivalency.

You mean dirt on her pants, right?

998 spoiler pics are out (only 4 so far, so here's the link): https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5221859475 No break next week—we can expect 999 spoiler pics a week from today.