LucasIchiro

Note: I had too many quotes, so I found an alternative method. Hello Kirsch and Mohorovicic, I'm going to clean up some misunderstandings with this post: Well, considering you only have one life on earth, I figured it would be important that you don't waste it on poor experiences. But I agree, I was out of turn and I apologize, I meant it more in a way that 'I would never' and not to scold past attempts. It's just what I think, you don't have to take it so personally and if you disagree we can still be friends. Okay, interesting. I wanted to know what happened specifically, so thank you! I am super confused by the passive aggressiveness, but as indicated from your last paragraph, I probably deserved that tone(?) haha. Please keep in mind that the phrase 'people have a life outside' is kind of well known and is automatically assumed in all roleplay environments and in the context of all roleplaying discussion. I'm even on the side of real life > roleplay. I think you're talking to me as if I'm a lot less competent than what I really am, which is probably my fault for leaving a bad first impression. Hmm, I'm definitely confused by this one. Let me answer that last question; yes, I think this is as far as I'm willing to go? I'm totally willing to hang out with the roleplayers on here and be convinced to go farther though. . .!! I don't think you guys are 'poor excuses for members' so please don't say that's what I was inferring. I think you're interpreting this as an active attack on the community when it was more of a tough love call for action from someone from a heavy roleplaying environment. You probably know what this means (but I don't know!), so go to (or read) these links to see what I'm talking about more specifically: http://www.roleplayerguild.com/ https://www.rpnation.com/ And any other site where role play is the goal of the forum. I'm making a comparison between the (very well done) roleplays on there and the ones on here. Hopefully that helps ease some misunderstanding, and hopefully you don't find it offensive (and instead see it as a compliment) that I'm comparing author-level roleplays to the ones found on this forum. Maybe you'll say I'm very wrong for doing so. . . That's completely OK for you to say, valid point. I used to write 8 paragraph posts for stories that picked up on themes of objectification, dependency theory, existentialism, etc. . .and I applied and compared my experience to DCW's roleplay. So I guess I am totally silly for doing that, but I don't think Detective Conan deserves any less. Also, I don't have evidence that there's a strong presence of roleplayers here. There totally can be a strong presence here (like you said, a dozen or so roleplayers), but I cannot discern that from my research on the forum. So this is basically how I have to find it. . . I checked them all out and they work great. If you wanted to know more information on them, you can use the URL to find the topic. To cap this off, I think that you misunderstood a lot of what I wrote. That's OK, because I think a lot of it was my fault. I'll try to be more considerate next time. I'm assuming you are a roleplayer on here, so how about you talk about your experience and how you see the current roleplay situation? As you can see, I could only acquire this knowledge from looking back into posts and it's quite shallow. So how about we clarify some things!! I saw the last post was back in May last year. I don't see any OOC threads or any way to implement oneself into the community. This is the last post on this topic: http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/3997-dcw-irl-general-info-and-faq/?p=317604 That topic would be your main, uh, 'place' for recruiting members and it hasn't been updated since May. Maybe I should post on there to bump it back up so you don't double post? I'll definitely do it, DCW IRL deserves it. Right now it doesn't look like DCW IRL even exists any more, so if that's not true, then the evidence on the forum is contradicting that actual state of the topic. I actually really wanted to know about that, thanks! Okay, sure. I can understand the logic of that system. In comparison to more serious roleplays it would be unacceptable, but now that the context is clearer I can see what ya'll were doing. It is very foreign to what I've experienced in the past couple of years, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong. From the places that I typically roleplay, there are two forums; one for OOC and one for IC. Because the story is important, you don't want any OOC posts in between the IC. You utilize the OOC forum to gain more members and ask questions about the IC and you screw around in Skype or Vent, whichever medium you use to hang out in. I can agree that in the situation of a fan forum having both in one place is practical and that in a role play concentrated forum having things in different places are more important. I would actually exclude DCW IRL from what I was talking about there, since like you said, it doesn't really take itself that seriously (you play as yourself). I also don't think DCW IRL has anything to do with the 'deserving'; although the 'RolePlay Subforum' used DCW IRL as the main RP they were promoting, I agree with you, that isn't nearly enough to actually make a roleplaying subforum, especially since DCW IRL isn't a roleplay in the strict sense. I'm basically 100% with you on what you're saying. To be honest, I've been in a lot of heavy roleplaying groups and they could definitely benefit from the one month rule. If I ever return to heavy roleplaying and I'm back with my crew, I'll see about implementing it in our epic hard science fiction space dramas. I don't know what you're apologizing for, I totally agree. This isn't an RP forum and I'm not trying to make it one, just want to make that point clear!! The reason why I'm making the comparison is because of the nature of Detective Conan. For me, it wasn't about DCW, but about DC. I think Detective Conan has some serious roleplaying potential-- and clearly I'm not the only one who thinks so. But when I did my research on this forum, I was honestly disappointed because my idea of Detective Conan roleplay was so different then the attempts made by other members of the community. I don't think it was because the members didn't have passion, I don't think it was a lack of story telling experience (I don't know. . .), I don't think it's because the roleplayers in this community are inferior. . . I do think that it's because in most DC RP's focus on giving out the roles of each character to other members (I feel like Conan is always picked before the forum topic is put up. . .!), also I think the biggest problems for DC RP laid in every other RP except for DCW IRL. I want to elaborate on this trend: True, I could concede that I stepped out of line when I look back in context.

First of all, when I did a search this1 came up, which confused me, so I tried this2. That wasn't a good first sign-- in fact, it's more like an omen. When roleplay is only stated as 'role play' it usually indicates a community that lacks high quality roleplayers. From my knowledge in the field, this is what separated boys from men. But that's not evidence, it's just a hunch. There are eighty four topics3 that have the word 'role play' in it and most of these have 'play' before 'role', so a substantially smaller portion of this list is actual roleplay. What I first stumbled upon was this account4, not exactly roleplaying, but I consider any writing in the milieu Gosho offers as 'roleplaying', because you're trying to play the role as a character in the setting. The second topic was one made for roleplaying with other people and this time it leads to another forum to do said roleplay. To be honest, these guys pumped out 849 posts over 10 topics. That's not bad at all, in fact that's awesome! Once I started looking into the posts, I realized there was a great trend to post OOC in an IC thread. OOC means out of character, and IC means in character. The fact that the fluidity of the story is interrupted with the OOC posts, questioning events in posts and just existing, makes for low immersion. I'm actually pretty disappointed, but we should take what we can get. Afterwards I found this post5, and in an attempt to find a connection, looked her up on the roleplaying site6. Next up is DCW IRL7; some of you may actually be familiar. The concept of DCW IRL is kind of weird, especially from a heavy roleplaying context. You usually try not to get too attached to your character, so you definitely don't make yourself! However, it's a novel idea for a world like DC, because the good guys-- especially the kids-- never get killed. So therefore, you never have to worry about the trauma of character death. I honestly don't think I would join this roleplay, but that's just my personal preference. I didn't dig too deep into DCW IRL, but what I expect happened is that the original post served as both IC and OOC, then it got so big they made another round, all the way up to fourteen. Like the first forum, the IC and the OOC intermingle. It's not really just a pet peeve, it's just that the separation of OOC and IC is important. How is someone going to follow the story if there's OOC in the IC? Just make two seperate forums. Which brings me to the next topic: A Roleplay Subforum?8 This was a really, really terrible idea. It just underlined the sorry state the roleplay community was in here. They have the energy, they really want to make roleplaying a big thing here, but they don't understand they need to make a community that deserves a subforum. They need to use what they have and clutter up the chatroom with so many roleplay threads that the GM's just make a subforum to make it more convenient. YOU HAVE TO EARN IT!! That's just my take on that topic. Also, Kyuu, I really love your toxicology topic, but I interpreted your input in this thread as really negative and sometimes hostile. If a moderator thinks that it's inappropriate for me to point this out, I have no problem with this paragraph being deleted out. I have actual arguments for what I specifically disagree with him about, but I'm not going to get into that here. If you really want to know, just post below and I'd be glad to share. This is the next thing I found. . .oh jackpot9! So the forum here is still active, but here everything is dedicated to one RP. Maybe this goes to show that having sub-forums leads to a superior roleplaying experience? You could really put this all into one topic and keep everything consistent. I'm gonna check out this site a little more, they might need some help. The problem I see with this is that this topic is buried back into 2013, and it might be for a good reason. Also it looks pretty cool10. The actual roleplay is here: http://detective.ethereal-visions.net/phpbb/ Pictures and Topics 1 -> http://s10.postimg.org/vh7dh2ca1/CONAN_ONE.png 2 -> http://s10.postimg.org/m361b0lgp/CONAN_TWO.png 3 -> http://s10.postimg.org/613i4mlrd/CONAN_THREE.jpg Just wanted to make sure. . . 4 -> http://s10.postimg.org/6t663tpyh/CONAN_FOUR.jpg 5 -> http://s10.postimg.org/mjmnjpju1/CONAN_5.jpg 6 -> http://s10.postimg.org/ymrz79uw9/CONAN_6.jpg 7 -> http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/1689-dcwirl/ 8 -> http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/4341-a-roleplay-subforum/?hl=%2Brole+%2Bplay#entry288292 9 -> http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/4702-detective-conanmagic-kaitou-role-play-anyone/?hl=%2Brole+%2Bplay 10 -> http://s10.postimg.org/v5px4avu1/CONAN_7.jpg and http://s10.postimg.org/bqjqoxrxl/CONAN_8.jpg After that, there's no more roleplaying. DCW IRL died around the 30th of May and I cannot find out why for the life of me, other then the interest just dissipating. Roleplayers here need to learn and adapt to their environment and try other kinds of roleplaying, but the interest just doesn't seem to be there. No one wants to step up to the plate. This is your forums situation on roleplaying, and to be honest, it kinda sucks. I've been lurking a lot lately and this is an awesome forum, so I think it deserves a better effort. The only problem with roleplaying is time; it consumes a lot of it. So if you're thinking of starting a roleplaying forum, try this next time: Make a time limit stressed on the players to maintain discipline; a post every week at the minimum and on the regular try to find a comfortable and consistent posting pattern. What DCW IRL did was great, check it out. Open up the role of Conan (and everyone else) for each game, so that everyone has a chance to play him. Find people who are good at certain things; if someone plays Conan well then reward him with more attention and opportunities to play the character. This is how the RP should be structured: Player One → All the suspects, witnesses and any character you couldn't find a role for. This is basically the game master, because he sets up the situation that the rest of the characters will play in. Player Two → Any characters chosen by the game master that is a minor character; this way the killer could either be a player one or player two. Feel free to have multiple players play minor characters, to keep things fresh. Player Three – The police, everyone. If this guy can find people to play specific characters from the police, that's OK, but someone has to utilize the grand structure. Player Four – Conan Player Five – The Detective Boys, Ran, Kogoru, Dr. Agasa; all the major characters. Like Player Two and three, if you find a person willing to take a character off you, then you should do so! You don't need different people to play each part. That's going to slow things down sooo much and most of the time you can't find everyone to fill every role. The point is to create a story based on the world Gosho has shown us. If we can get multiple RP's going, two people on the forum can play as Conan at once! (Apparently that never happens!) Also, when it comes down to the BO, I honestly think it's in poor taste to RP with them until you've proven you deserve it. BO plots are really rare in DC so you should reflect that quality to get the best feel of the show and the world Conan lives in. I kind of judge because I'm still on episode one hundred fourty one and I have no idea who Akai is or what silver bullet means, but that's still not the point. If you start your own RP on here, please make an OOC topic where you can goof off and ask questions and an IC topic so that the story can be kept in one place. In an RP where information is critical it's important to have it organized. Also, if you do it, take emergency measures to keep the topic alive. Once someone disappears and doesn't come back, replace them. The RP takes precedence over the players, it's a dog eat dog world but you can't just cry about it. Also, don't be super dramatic or take it personally if someone disappears, or if you're not good enough to play Conan but you REALLY want to. Don't be selfish; the story is the important part, not who you play. You have to be a very good and persistent roleplayer to do the major roles, it's just the nature of the game. I would also use piratepad.net or titanpad.net or google documents to do more dialogic passages. You can all join the pad and start roleplaying there, then post the results on the forum. I think this would be really fun for Detective Conan specifically. I need to point out, that the wiki would be used in a new and inventive way if people began consistently roleplaying. Game masters can use it to find minor recurring characters and weave them into the story and roleplayers can use it to check for consistency in theme. So there you go, that's the situation you guys are in. I think a lot of people don't care, and I'll probably find that out with the next few comments (or lack of comments. . .)

I remember the last scene in the final episode of the dubs was about George. It was a classic ending to a great run and really left a good impression for the Case Closed experience. But after that he turned into Genta. . .I remember the scene in the castle where Ayumi says "Genta, please don't lean on me. . ." Lol!!! If you don't like the DB, I'd suggest re-watching the earlier episodes. To me, in the anime as opposed to the manga, the DB's emerge a little too fast and you only get a small glimpse of what they're like before they know about eachother. I'd really like to see more character development between the characters before they all get together and solve some case, but I'll take what Gosho gives. Back on Genta, whenever he gets trapped my brother throws his hands up and proclaims "George is dead. You died George." and it's actually pretty funny, try it some time!

Also, I think this kind of dedication is cool. To go through all the murderers, find the ones you find kinda cute. . .that's some effort. If there was a clapping emoji I would definitely utilize it right now. It kind of makes me want to go through the list and just understand what 38 is talking about, you know, instead of being a bit narcissistic and (everything beyond this point is passive aggressive so sorry )

oh But do you watch people who talk about Conan on Youtube?

Also, thank you all for the warm welcome!! I'm finding my time here well spent. There are a lot of ideas people have come up with that really impress me, a lot of cool discussions I would never really think about myself! I see there's a chat, but it doesn't seem to be well populated. Does anybody know some good skype groups, so we can meet up in real life and cause scenes of crime that somehow cryptically involve the forum, only for it to be saved by Detective Conan fans so that Gosho Aoyama could be like "wow, my book saved LIVES" or maybe we can just chat about Conan and stuff like that?

Thank you guys, maybe I'll get around to writing the rest some time. My question is, which moderator do you think called for back up?

Alright, so I was doing some research and this is what I found: Disclaimer: I wouldn't watch any of these videos except for the last few. They're really not that worth it if you're here. . . Also, I know from lurking around the forum the Moderators are kind of anal about which threads should be where, and I totally respect that. So if it shouldn't be here, just move it. But keep in mind, these reviews are for anything relating to Conan-- the manga, the anime. . .eventually I'll get to the games and the movies, maybe even some miscellanious stuff that I can find. The limits are endless!! Detective Conan Anime Series Review! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScMveVyynz0 This guy is super excited about Case Closed and claims it is the most re-watchable anime, without really explaining why. He focuses on two of the DVD's for most of the videos and it's really meant for people who might be interested in Case Closed. Not really useful for someone who's been watching it for a while. Review #37-Case Closed DVD History in America https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPNyFcMog-c This review only talks about the release history of Case Closed (The English version), not very entertaining and kind of hard to follow. You can find this information rather easily online, I think. Detective Conan/Case Closed Season 1 Review/ First Impresions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg_o-kPKeI4 This guy only watched the first season, there isn't really anything talking about the art of the show. I'm assuming this guy does more reviews for like, One Piece or something, so he's actually not that interested in examing it. Detective Conan - Case Closed first Review first video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W-b7wnVuoI This review is mainly about the manga, is the reviewers first video and he tries a good job to make the video entertaining. It's kind of like, you go over your friends house who has all the manga and then he just shows you his collection. He admits Kaito Kid is his hero, gets a little nervous and recommends the manga to everyone. He even says that he became a criminal justice major because of Conan, which is commendable! If you don't have all the manga and you want to see how the spine pictures match up, it's pretty cool. Detective Conan Review(Case Closed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avt0z6WPfM8 This review is pretty entertaining, but it's clear that he does this kind of thing for other animes. It's just a sort of synopsis of the first episodes of Case Closed. case closed review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6j7TkGWhMk This is a review by Retromoviegirl, she seems super anxious and loud which is kind of funny. She says she's doing a full review but she really doesn't talk about the Anime. Just preaching the good word out to other Anime fans, I guess! Detective Conan / Case Closed Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSF4ZmuEZMY This guy is pretty cool, the first review that extends to the subs. The presentation is a lot better, a lot of different pictures to go with his voice. The actual quality of the review is questionable though, I think he could've done a lot better and maybe wrote a script for what he was going to say. It's kind of confusing because if you're going to write a review for Case Closed you should probably know Richard Moore is addicted to Yoko Okino. If you watch the anime, if you're a fan, I think it's just a piece of information you should know. Maybe by now you're wondering why I'm being so critical of these reviews. Let me show you a video of another anime, and what I sort of expect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRpCe2_6Ids There's an introduction video with it's own music that airs on every episode as standard, then it immediately goes into an essay-like description of the context in which the anime takes place in. Immediately afterwards, the reviewer cuts off the essay and presents the anime itself as being 'TOTAL APESHIT INSANITY', following it with clips of the show itself. Then it cuts back to the reviewer who further describes the anime. Just go ahead and watch a little bit of this video. While you do this, I want you to ask yourself, "What if this was about Conan?" So now we're on our quest to find a comparable review of Conan. What other review videos are there? Anime DVD Reviews:Detective Conan/Case Closed Boxset https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96tqFfUlUAU This review is a lot better, it has its own introduction and the reviewer has a personality. Now this isn't exactly Bennet the Sage quality, but I don't think that's what was intended. Just another anime reviewer reviewing another anime, spreading the good word. Detective Conan Episode 1 Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT6jTIvMC9c Here is two people reviewing Detective Conan. It's a bit lackluster, there's no image editing, just sort of a conversation between two people about Conan. I think they miss a lot of a point of the art, there's a lot of spaces in between talking but it seems like some of it's scripted. The male reviewer nominates Richard as the best father ever for drinking all the time, chasing after women and beating Conan. The female reviewer said that sometimes the cases are solved with clues that aren't presented to the viewers, which I think is pretty false. I like the fact that they're actually talking about the anime, it's a step up, but not quite a review I would recommend anyone, especially if they're interested in Detective Conan. It just doesn't seem like they care about the anime they're reviewing. The whole video I just want to say "I don't even think you should be doing this." detective conan review part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gclE7ZEfWgM Alright, this is where things start turning up! The video starts out with some power metal coupled with scenes from various Anime's that are a little more popular, like One Piece and Dragon Ball Z. There are even guests! And it's not spoiler free. This is a step in the right direction. The main reviewer gives a general review of each character. Now my immediate problem with this review, is there's a lot of space. If you're going to watch a review, it should be scripted, the pictures should match the content that the reviewer is talking about-- everything is done in one take, and some of the reviewers are nervous. It's just daunting when you see the video is 22:38 minutes and there's a 28:02 part 2. Do you want to spend almost an hour listening to some people almost directionlessly talk about Conan? I'm just not sure about their formula. They seem to have a lot of fun with it, but it's lost in the silence and the slow pace of explaining the plot. I know I'm trying to make a comprehensive description of these videos, but judging from the initial quality of the first ten minutes, I'm just not impressed. We're gonna move on to some better reviews: FMDC https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcPDx9BXJfgPO-lkEdKDXjQ/featured Detective Conan Chapter 905 Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FDrfVMT3GA Now this is impressive; the reviewer goes through and talks about the manga in detail, specifically chapter 905. Now, I'm a little disappointed because she doesn't start from the beginning, but I'll take what I can get. She also has a few other videos that are Conan related, like a folk version of the Detective Conan Theme! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh1gnbSpfKM) As well as some Cosplay stuff, like the Tracking Glasses (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peduYYLK4ME) And even a Lets Play of The Mechanical Temple! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgYfsqgPEfs) Now, in this post I don't think I'll cover all the Lets Play videos that are on Youtube for Detective Conan, but it seems like a good project for another time! The good news, the last video was a put up a week ago. This is probably one of the first videos that actually deserves attention if you're a Detective Conan fan. Okay, now for the finale! ExtremeConanLover https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC_PGmIiAm4TTsz2QtNoLGQ Detective Conan Episode 1 Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT6jTIvMC9c I really like this video! The presentation is well done, the reviewer has a lot of personality, music is played behind the narration that totally fits. This is a prime example of quality presentation of the series; the reviewer goes on rants that are entertaining and consistent, she knows what she wants to say and it's easy to follow, there are scenes of the anime that are playing that provide context for what she's talking about. . .This is pretty much what I've been looking for this whole time. Now this video was done in 2014, but the other videos she has done were in 2010. It's actually kind of interesting watching her grow up through the videos. I haven't watched all of them, and I have to admit the 2010 video's quality isn't stellar, but it's a great effort among the rest of the videos presented. I can totally respect the effort, but it's still might not quite be up to being an entertaining video for someone who knows the first ten episodes like the back of their hand. If there are any more reviews I might have missed, post them below! We can have a little archive or something, maybe even throw some support at some of the more respectable reviewers. I don't know when I'll scour the internet for reviews of the movies, but seeing as I haven't watched any of them (wow!) I kind of don't want to spoil them. Also, I might as well admit, I'm only up to 136 (wow!) Hope this was helpful!

Hey! This place looks cool! The wiki is super helpful! Here's a psychedelic journey, enjoy!