EthanHunter

Ah, I just had a random thought. Does anyone have an idea what is Conan's new 4-digit code? Wonder of it has anything to do with Rum or even Akai

I believe MG was shrunk while living with Sera in the US, not too long ago. It wasn't right before the red woman case because of 3 things: 1) I believe the reason Sera came to Japan was because MG shrunk, and had probably already shrunk before coming to Japan. 2) If they(especially MG) are still hesitating to discuss things with Conan(even Sera ignores Conan when asked about MG, probably because MG said so), Sera wouldn't have discussed it right after MG shrunk. 3) I also believe she must have had shrunk before Sera net Conan, otherwise she would have been surprised at Shinichi having shrunk.

When I first saw it I thought it mean something like sports wear. The policewoman couldn't catch the culprit in file 928 so I thought maybe it is saying if she wore sportswear she could have run faster to catch the culprit How did you find the kanji? I had to go to google translate, choose the "handwrite" option and copy the kanji from the picture as well as I could

Ah thanks for correcting me! I didn't know that one. For Uchiha Shadow: 1) Yeah I think what you are saying is also possible. A problem with that is as you said, he would need to know that someone can de-age. Now I am pretty sure he knows someone can de-age because he is in constant contact with Sera and I am sure he knows about MG, however just because he knows someone can de-age doesn't mean he would assume Conan to be Shinichi as soon as he met him unless he knew of it beforehand. I agree he has a very good memory and it is possible, yet with Conan's glasses, and maybe even without them, he cannot say that for sure, unless he clearly remembered Ran as well. Now another thing is surely Sera hadn't discussed Conan with Shuukichi before they first met, because Sera was surprised when Shuukichi was not surprised about Conan. What bugs me is what was the message Shuukichi sent to Sera that we didn't get to see after he was asked how does he know of Conan. He might have simply said something like "I saw Conan solve a case and know that he is a great detective." or maybe "I know he is Shinichi." but Sera had a very convinced expression after reading the mail. If he mailed the first quote I said, that wouldn't be enough for Sera to be convinced, and if he said the latter, then Sera would have asked how. He clearly didn't say Shuuichi told him Finally, how did Sera know of Conan? This is probably the trickiest one. There might be multiple theories on this one but I don't know any of them. Sera apparently knew of Shinichi since the first time she met Conan, now Conan was evidently very intelligent and resembled Shinichi, but unless for some reason she knew beforehand that Shinichi had shrunk into an elementary schoolboy, I doubt just finding a random smart kid who looked like Shinichi 10 years ago would be enough to convince her that Conan is Shinichi. Now this is further proof that MG has been shrunk, because otherwise Sera would have not so easily believed Shinichi was shrunk, but I think the entire reason why Sera came to Japan was to meet Shinichi. Sorry for such a long post but another thing, I am sure there must have been theories about "The Wizard" but since I don't know what they are, I will state what I believe. I think "The Wizard" is actually Shinichi. I am still not sure but I think when Shuukichi asked Sera "So have you met the Wizard yet?" he was referring to Conan. I think some people believe that's not it, because if Conan is right in front of Sera why would he ask that? I believe he just wanted to confirm whether Sera knows Conan is Shinichi or not, after all, before answering Sera stared at Conan. For some reason, perhaps MG's spy info or something, Shuukichi and Sera both knew beforehand that Shinichi had shrunken. Thinking about that, Sera, along with MG who possibly had shrunken while in the US, decided to come to Japan and meet the shrunken Shinichi to discuss about it. In that case, when Sera asked Shuukichi how does he know of Conan, he could have simply responded something like "I have already met him." and then asked Sera whether she has met "The Wizard" AKA Shinichi to confirm that she knows Conan is Shinichi. Everything would have been perfectly clarified if Ran and Sonoko didn't join Conan in the pool case! 3) Yeah I agree, Conan is not 100% sure. However, I believe he just wanted to confirm that when he was going to ask about it in the red woman case. I think almost everything about Akai family would be cleared in a next big case I am expecting. In the pool case Sera was going to talk about MG with Conan, but since she couldn't I think sooner or later she will. That would probably also be when Shuukichi would be officially revealed to be Akai family's middle brother. I also read that in an interview Gosho was asked if Sera would meet Akai any soon, and he said yes, so if things go well, everything regarding the Akai family could be clarified in just one case.

update: yappari fukei san wa katsudo-fuku janakute SUKAATO yo ne meaning something like "As I thought, policewoman should wear skirts, not activities clothing" Not saying you can trust google translate

^ yappari -- san wa --- janakute SUKAATO yo ne

If you mean Conan did not pay attention because he did not think about it too much, I think it is just because he didn't think the middle brother's identity was to important, that might be why he just simply said to himself "The seem to be weirdly in sync". I don't think Conan is someone who lets even the smallest detail slip, like in the plane case when the culprit was going to use her right hand, talked about something random and used her left hand instead. I am pretty confident Gosho is NOT making fools of us and just intends on clarifying things about the middle brother, and as I stated above I believe he plans on making a separate case in which Conan would meet Shuukichi again, probably along with Sera. Of course I also believe when they do meet, it will be shown that Conan already knew he was the middle brother. So if we say Gosho is not playing around with us, in conclusion we have 3 plot developments: 1) Shuukichi Haneda is the middle brother of the Akai family. Just on a side note, I wonder if he is aware that Akai is alive. When Holmes faked his death he let Mycroft know of it. I personally believe he knows Akai is alive because during the Sonoko's boyfriend case, when Sera mailed him Conan's picture he said something like he is not surprised because of something(not yet mentioned to us). I always believed it was Akai who told Shuukichi about Conan (I had always believed he was the middle brother since his debut) because how else did Shuukichi know a 1st grader could solve a murder case when he first met him? That's a totally different topic and I totally made it up though 2) Mary (MERII in katakana) is probably Mg's name, making her likely to either be non-Japanese or have at least one non-Japanese parent, making us think MG is probably the Akai family's mother and Elena's sister. That means Akai and Akemi were cousins, nothing wrong with it cuz they didn't know of it anyway. Wait, does that prove even if hypothetically MG and Elena are siblings, Akai doesn't know of it? That's because being in the BO as Rye Akai must have know Akemi is Hell Angel's daughter, and it is unlikely he would want to have a romantic relationship with his cousin if he knew about it. 3) Conan couldn't care less about Akai family's middle brother xD His reaction "They seem to be weirdly in sync" probably means that he didn't know that Shuukichi is the MB but he didn't really care about it. After all, Haneda is just a shogi player. He is extremely intelligent but has no involvement(probably) with any spy organizations like FBI or CIA. Therefore Akai never discussed with Conan about him, in fact not even about Sera. Just another obvious side note but Conan and Akai don't discuss anything about their private lives apparently. I mean Conan seemed rather surprised when in Yuusaku's cold case Okiya hinted he knows Conan is Shinichi, and even knowing that Okiya is Akai all along he didn't want Ran to talk about Shinichi. No idea why.

Of course it's not explicitly stated However, http://bato.to/read/_/341141/detective-conan_ch929_by_souka-scans/15 in page 15 of file 929 when Sera and Yumi call Shuukichi, after observing for a little while Conan thinks "They seem to be weirdly in sync" with a funny face Also, including the part where Sera and Yumi talk about middle brother and haneda respectively and they seem to be very similar, it is clearly implied Conan knows who is the middle brother. Of course it is not explicitly stated, but Conan knows as much as we do, it is pretty much like whether Sera knows Conan is Shinichi or not, she clearly seems to know but Conan has never discussed about it or confirmed it with her. I know he could be a red herring but I don't think Gosho would do something like that. I think the only one he has given so many clues about and fooled us was Vermouth, when he made us think it was Jodie, though even then the proofs were not this explicit.

Ouch, I didn't see that. I was too focused on it being either vinegar or soy sauce. IDK, maybe those are the only two liquid condiments they use in ramen shops The phone call was a big clue too right? I don't think Gosho would do something like that, he probably just thought clarifying things in front of Conan and Sera in this chapter might be too simple. Conan clearly knows Haneda Meijin is Sera's middle brother by now so maybe we could have a case with them very soon. Might even be the very next case OR after a long time when both Shuuichi and Shuukichi will be revealed to Sera and Conan respectively.

Wait a second! Would you happen to mean this case? http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Valentine_Murder_Case It matches with some of your description. The last time you came online was June 23 so I doubt you will read this I don't think it is about property or hidden dead bodies and also the mother was not targeted. The motive was they needed money.

Are you sure that it is not from any other anime? Conan is not the type to hide the criminal of a case no matter what, and dead bodies underground, then poison is too creepy even for DC And as I said Conan would have asked her to surrender once he found out.

I think he thought that one because at the end Conan reveals that he knows the old woman is the culprit. I can almost ascertain you there is no such case. There are very few cases with dead bodies underground, for eg. the seance case. Also, when you say an old mother knew about the culprit it reminds me of the hound case that had heiji in it and came after "the victim is shinichi kudo". I think either you are mixing up a lot of cases or totally mistaken, I cannot think of any case as weird as the one you are saying in the entire series, let alone ep. 80-130. Haha that seems some sort of joke "All Blue" should be a reference to One Piece and Black Org of course to DC, this is not from a DC file

Sorry, I meant the hand gloves the CULPRIT dismissed. And also by hold or keep in pocket I meant the stuff that was vacuumed and not the gloves themselves in case it was unclear.

For Chekhov: The following includes only what I thought and knew before reading the solutions, no spoilers. "Why the culprit would need to vacuum anything in the first place? The treasure in question is just two earrings. If they were dropped, they could be picked up easily" That's exactly what I thought! Therefore I had already dismissed the idea. As I mentioned somewhere above, it has to be something that would prove his identity. If it were the earrings, he would have still left them and ran away. BTW, even in the solution I don't think they mentioned what was used to "catch" the stuff sucked in by the vacuum. I presume it was the hand gloves the victim dismissed. He just needed it to make the vacuum function, while running he can simply hold it or keep it in his pocket until he reaches the restaurant. Another thing I mentioned above is that whatever was in the toilet tank was what was vacuumed. About the sauce container, I don't think being near-sighted would matter. Suppose what you say is right and the culprit is not wearing glasses, if he couldn't do something as simple as differentiate between transparent and opaque there is no way he could talk to the police officers normally. If we suppose he did drop it inside a container, it probably wasn't a mistake but because soya sauce is opaque. The rest is a spoiler, includes stuff I didn't know/think before reading the solution

Well, so it is widely believed that MG is the Akai family's mother. I don't know how Japanese people normally talk to their mothers but I think they often say oka-san or something like that, which Sera never uses. Let's say she IS the mother and told Sera not to call her mother to be safe, even then I wonder they interact how a normal mother and daughter would. I am not questioning that theory, in fact even i believe MG is the mother because she is too intelligent for her age, also, Sera kind of asks for MG's "permission" to introduce her to Conan, so she is perhaps older than Sera in reality. Something I really don't get is how did she shrink. Most people in this poll believe that she consumed APTX 4869, but how? When Ai first came, she said everyone except Shinichi has been confirmed to have died after taking the poison. I also don't think Gin and the rest used it in her absence. Even if they did, why would they use it on her? Is she some sort of spy? She probably isn't a part of FBI, they have never mentioned her. Probably not even CIA. Would make sense however if she is from MI6 and her relationship with Elena might be probable. She is very likely a spy because she quite easily found out the bug Conan placed in their hotel room, and also an important one because the BO used APTX 4869 on her (that is however, only if they did use it). I kind of hope that she is not from MI6 because that would complicate the plot too much. I mean FBI and CIA are enough already. Gosho also said somewhere that Sera was not originally a part of his plan, so I wonder if any Akai except Shuuichi are at all a part of the BO plot. I personally think Gosho should move on to RUM. There has been nothing new for a long time, Bourbon's identity, Okiya's identity and Shuuichi's death, and also Akai's middle brother's identity were fairly predictable and also the plot developments are moving too slow. I really wish we at least get something more about RUM.

I think overall it was quite an interesting case About Shuukichi, I did expect Gosho to only tease us with him, he probably intends on making a case starring him, Sera and Conan side by side, looking forward to it!

That makes sense if he is the culprit and needs to use the soya sauce for something. I would say that thin guy is the most suspicious. Maybe another minor point but compared to the woman and the fat guy, he should be the fastest runner and the culprit did seem to be a fast runner. BTW since I don't know much about those condiment containers, is there actually a better way to hide the earrings than just dropping them inside? Guess not but we cannot totally rule it out.

Thanks a lot! Back to the case, I think it is getting quite interesting First of all I had a misconception that the earrings were hidden inside the restroom but looking over the file again, Conan and Sera are getting OUT of the washroom(for some reason I thought they were going to another part of it (basins, etc.). So the earrings are probably NOT hidden inside the restroom. I think there are two important questions to figure out in this case: 1) What was the shiny thing inside the tank? This is an important one because it probably dismisses the idea that the hose was used to hide or vacuum out the earrings from somewhere. It is probably to hide something else, something that would reveal the culprit's identity I think, so he/she HAD to hide it. 2) What's the part the condiments play? This is an obvious question but hard to answer, on a side note it very much reminds me of the froth, smoke and steam case. One thing that is clear is that the culprit hid it somewhere, from where he cannot easily retrieve it, thus he has to come again and again and still hasn't retrieved it. It might make a bit of sense if he hid it in one of the containers and plans to use up as much as possible every day to retrieve it, however I think it is way too risky. In a day you can use up 2-3 containers at most but overall many more will be used by others. Also, if one finishes it would be seen right away. One might even break and be disposed for all we know, so I don't think that is how it went. Yet again, I cannot think of anything myself. I also think it is unlikely that the culprit's goal is to use up a certain condiment. After all, you cannot use much of any of the three no matter how much extra you have. Just another point to mention, when the store guy talked about what the victim said last time she came, Conan and Sera thought "that must be it". Did they figure out the culprit just by that? In that case I think the slim guy is kinda suspicious, she said he stares through the conv. store, as if to plan a burglary or something. I think the next file would be the resolution, so good luck everyone on solving the case before that!

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