Chekhov MacGuffin

I got sick of the Okiya is Akai Theory being featured, so I swapped it over to Vehicles in Detective Conan because cars are cool and we could also use a break from character article features. If you have car knowledge, pictures, or trivia, you are needed!

Hattori accused the secretary of being the person who called him out in 75-2 (786) pg 11. She hadn't confessed quite yet when that part of the accusation happened, but she certainly didn't correct him later when she did confess.

Try searching for "kidnapped" and "kidnapping" at the wiki. There are not too many episodes with FBI action scenes, so you are pretty much limited to the showdowns with the Black Org like with Vermouth (Jodie shot), and Red vs Black (Jodie KO punched in the stomach, Camel clonked over the head and singed, Akai "shot and killed"). The Mysterious Passenger had some action too and Conan was injured in that one. Conan and Genta were shot is the cave section of desperate revival. The movies are excellent if you want to see some main characters injured.

Apparently, I think he doesn't. He must, or why would he let Subaru stay in his house?

Because of the promises she made, I think Vermouth isn't going looking for Sherry exactly (because otherwise she could have taken her the many times Agasa and Haibara were alone), but if an opportunity presents itself and Vermouth has an excuse (Bourbon found her, so she can help him -- and modify his plan a little), she'll take it.My idea for the reason behind the antipathy between Vermouth and the Miyanos is... (not a spoiler, but spoiler-ed for length and copyapsta)

This scene is not the same in the manga. The anime is not faithful to the manga for subtle clues. Check chapter 609 pgs 15-16. Also consider how Conan reacted with Eisuke later when Eisuke brought up that it sounded like someone died.

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Amuro is going to wonder why some guy bothered to throw a grenade under him when he was cornering Sherry and if it was part of a trap. Assuming he didn't get a clear look at the Akai and thus does not know the man's identity, Amuro knows or will know shortly that he wasn't Vermouth. If the man meant to kill him, a grenade would be less ideal than a gun because it gives Amuro a better chance to escape. (and he did) [My assumption is a man who has grenades in Japan probably also has a gun.] From Amuro's point of view, it would be someone also aiming to kill Shiho or a trap. Besides a trick, I suppose it is also possible Amuro could come to conclusion that it was another Organization member or Vermouth brought in someone else to make sure Shiho died. It seems though that by asking for Akai's files, he is worried about the former.

So Ai was in on the plan, that's good. I guess Okiya told her when he caught her. Edit: Nevermind. Puto pointed out Conan could have been lying to Kid about the woman telling him the answers. It could have been Conan with the voice changer and he winged the conversation with Bourbon with what he knows and what Akai told him. Ai could be in on the plan as described, but she may not be and really was unconscious the whole time which explain why she as unconscious at the end.

Some thoughts on the file with the disclaimer they may not be accurate because I could have misunderstood something from the spoiler preview I think it is interesting how Gin didn't care if Vermouth and Bourbon got blown up with the train when it arrived at the station and set off their bombs. How would he have explained that to the boss? Killing codenamed agents unnecessarily should have earned him some demerit based on what Pisco said in the Haido City Hotel. Akai was wearing Sera’s hat when he dropped that grenade. She left it in her room earlier after boarding the train. She didn’t wear it during the investigation or the meeting with Scar Akai. Okiya took her back to her room as Yukiko said and then grabbed the hat when he went to confront Amuro. He then dropped it in the hall after he left where it was found by Ran. I guess this means that he is wearing a wig since the hair change occurred so quickly. You know how it is implied that Amuro has been in or connected to the Organization since he was young for him to have met Elena? What if he was childhood friends with Akemi? The other possibility is that Elena is still alive and Amuro knows about it (but that doesn’t seem to be what he implied.) Knowing Elena means Amuro has been in the Black Org since he was young. If we guess Elena died say, 15 years ago (Shiho = 3), that means Amuro was 14 when he knew her. Children growing up in the BO is a recurring pattern with Shiho and now Amuro. I bet Amuro had a directive that he be prepped to be a detective and enrolled in police academy, sort of like how Shiho was groomed as a scientist to take over her parents’ research. It would be interesting to find out if Amuro is related to any of the BO members we know. None come to mind though. I wonder how many BO agents start in house as kids? I wouldn't be surprised if Gin was raised in the Organization. Amuro doesn't seem like the most evil of the BO lot based on his behavior so far, but he is definitely loyal because he dutifully informed his higher ups about finding Sherry when he could have pretended not to see the video. I guess he is the gentleman bad guy; that is still a bad guy but you don't want to hate him too much. Amuro does seem to have some sense of justice, just not too good a sense of justice. That could be Date's influence now that I think about it. I don't think Kaito Kid is going to let his current understanding of things lie. He is too curious and will probably want to understand how Conan got caught up with people with codenames who bomb trains and impersonate dead FBI agents with disguises. Maybe something will come up next heist. Also the Suzuki family is out of the running for BO boss since Gin thought it would be useful if Jirokichi died. (Not that I ever thought they were BO related)

If you follow DCTP's spoiler cbox, you've already seen these summaries and translations. While the file will likely be out soon and this post rendered useless, in case you wanted in depth descriptions before then, here they are with credit to the translators who did them. Some minor changes to the page numbers were made. Mina: I will try my best to translate each speech bubble, some translation might be a little too direct, I apologize in advance. Mina: Page2: Passenger "What do you mean fire?!" "Explain properly!" Conductor: "Ah, well, we haven't grasped the situation either... we will announce it once we understand it" Mina: Kogorou coughing. Agasa: "Ohh Mouri-kun!" Ran: "Dad! Where are Conan-kun and Sera-san?" Kogorou: "I was with the kid with glasses until just now but.. that tomboy-ish girl should have gone to you Mina: a while ago" Sonoko: "She hasn't come!" Mina: Kogorou: "Maybe she got lost on the way..." Ayumi: "What about Ai-chan?" Genta: "She went that way right?" Mitsuhiko: "Isn't she with Conan-kun?" Mina: Kogorou: "I don't know. Isn't she around there somewhere?" Ran: "What do you mean somewhere there?" Mina: Page 3: Vermouth: "That's right... if it's her, she'll head toward the the 8th car, the source of the fire... " "She'll realize that this smoke is a trap by the organization to lure her out.." Mina: Yukiko: "I see! She realized that if she went to front car, you(the BO members) will be awaiting her there". Vermouth: "You don't get it do you. Her friends have also escaped to the front car" Mina: "if her targeted self goes there, they'll get involved as well, especially since it seems that the kids has met her in her former appearance" Mina: Vermouth: "that's why she'll go toward the fire... even if she knows the organization might bewaiting in the 8th car" "She'll think it's better to be the only person killed" Mina: end of of page 3 & into page4: Yukiko's phone rings, it's from Conan/Shinichi. Vermouth answers, using voice of Yukiko. Conan in panicked voice says that he can't find Haibara, and asked if she has come to her. Mina: Vermouth (in Yukiko's voice) suggests that Haibara probably went to front car, since she could hide among the crowd. Conan saysthat he'll go ahead to front car and reminds her to do their plan well Mina: Vermouth gets mail from Bourbon an tell Yukiko that they found Ai/Sherry in 8th car, and tells her that it looks like it's their win. shuu: Page 5 with Bourbon talking to Sherry, referring Moroboshi Dai: shuu: Bourbon: Bourbon… This codename, do you remember hearing? Though I’ve met your parents and your sister… shuu: Sherry: Yeah… I know… That there’s a member of the organization who has a rival relation with oneechan’s boyfriend Moroboshi Dai. According to what oneechan told me, you seem hate each other… shuu: Bourbon: Yeah… He’s a dog of FBI… After betraying the organization, it’s hard to believe that he’s been killed… shuu: Bourbon: So disguising as that man, I’ve been going around people related to him to see their reactions. Fortunately, I found out that the man is really dead. shuu: Bourbon: Maa, this time my nakama as been disguising as that man instead of me. That you showed up here means that you seem’ve got enough of terror shuu: Bourbon: The one who disguised as that dead man, you also know her well... Now, let's keep your hands up and move to the back of car number 8 Mina: Page 6: Vodka mentions how C4s are set to blow up just as the train arrives. Gin comments of what a good coincidence that the head of Suzuki and the top of Aichi police force are also on the platform Mina: Gin comments that thanks to their presence, the explosion will be seen to be targeting them instead of passengers on the train. Vodka asks how Vermouth and Bourbon will escape from the train Mina: Gin basically says he doesn't care. Vodka, much to Gin's surprise, mentions how Vermouth asked for the left over C4, though she wouldn't tell him what it's for. Mina: Gin seem to be able to guess what Vermouth might do Mina: Page 7: Bourbon explains to Sherry how he's planning take her back to BO alive. He'll separate the last car with explosive and once the car stops, awaiting helicopter will collect unconscious Sherry. Mina: He tell her not to worry about explosion since she'll be sleeping in area away from the explosion but Sherry points out that's not the case Mina: Page 8: Sherry points out that the entire luggage car is rigged with explosives. Bourbon realizes that Vermouth wants to kill Sherry no matter what. Mina: Bourbon then asks her to come with him but Sherry declines and slams the door. Mina: Bourbon notices figure behind him Mina: page 9: He think it's Vermouth and starts to tell 'her' that he'll be taking Sherry with him but is interrupted when the figure throws a hand grenade at where he's standing. Mina: Bourbon realizes it's not Vermouth and shouts at the figure, asking who he is. (It's Akai!! ) Mina: page 10: Bourbon just curses when the grenade explodes, separates the luggage car, and the luggage car also explodes Mina: Page 11: Vermouth says that its "the end". She tells Yukiko not to worry about the rest of train derailing because her partner confirmed that the luggage car exploded after it had separated from the Mina: rest of the train Mina: Yukiko acts panicked and starts to call out "Ai-chan" but stops as soon as Vermouth leaves the room. Mina: The train conductors comment to each other about whether the luggage car really did explode. The younger one comments that he saw black smoke. Bourbon is thinking to himself "That figure, could it be?" Mina: Page 12: Vermouth informs Gin that Sherry is dead, saying Bourbon saw the entire luggage car explode. Because of that, the train stopped in the nearest station Mina: The passengers were told to get off and are about to be asked questions one by one. Mina: Gin realizes that the reason she used explosives is because she knows the train will be forced to stop before the last stop. Vermouth comments that it should be enough that only Sherry is blown into bits Mina: As soon as she hangs up her phone, Mitsuhiko comments about how he was surprised... Mina: onto Page 13: how Haibara was in the B room of 7th car. She felt dizzy on the way back from bathroom so she rested in that room, since it was open. (or at least that's what the kids were told, of course) Mina: Vermouth deduces that Yukiko figured Haibara will run into that room and took her to safety. She also realizes that Conan was listening to her conversation with Yukiko and the phone call was a fake to keep her in the room Mina: As she's wondering who was the girl that got blown up, Sonoko comments about her disappointment that Kid can no longer come. Vermouth makes realization. Conan is the phone, sort of apologizing about things were kind of close Mina: Page 14: It's Kid, in Sherry disguise, escaped on hang-rider. He annoyingly comments to Conan, about gun and explosives being involved. He asks who are those dangerous people Mina: Kid had his hang-rider hidden in the luggage car. Conan had already figured that he'd have it there. Conan says now they are even and Kid doesn't owe him Mina: Onto flashback. Conan had deduced that the old lady and her helper are Kid and his assistant. The maid is Kid whlie the old lady is the assistant. Mina: Since the assistant can't change voice, Kid was speaking with close mouth while the assistant just mouthed the words, trying to hide the fact with the veil on the hat. Mina: But since Conan is short and could see the mouth, it was all visible to him Mina: The reason while Conan made the maid run down the hall was to confirm that the old lady will no longer able to "speak" without the maid around (since voice won't be disguised) Mina: Conan also noted how the old lady was able to light fire to kiseru (the metal pipe) with no issue, whereas all the fire survivors were afraid of fire, so he figured she was someone else disguised Mina: The reason Kid picked the old lady was because he could use the wheelchair to measure the length and width of the hallway. Kid comments that the real old lady is probably relaxing at home, believing Mina: the false mail sent about change the departure date Mina: Conan tells Kid that he should be grateful how Conan purposely overlooked the fact that they were trying to no get involved in the case by pretending they hadn't seen anything Mina: Kid asks Conan if he's trying sell a fight, but Conan instead asks him to disguise into the woman in the video. The woman will be another room and tell him what to say through ear piece Mina: Conan tells Kid to be careful since the place they'll force the woman to go will probably be rigged with explosives. Mina: back to present. Kid says that Conan owes him for this. Mina: Last page: Vermouth looks at Yukiko and commends her best casting. Ran gives back Sera her hat, commenting on how she found it in the hallway, though Sera is confused as to why in the hallway Mina: Bourbon asks Vermouth to let him see files on Akai before his death. Vermouth agrees. Bourbon comments that he has to start his research from scratch Mina: and that's it! Also there will be a break next week. There will be a week break after 824 and a new case will begin.

I finally got around to actually figuring out what to do with the theory articles, and I plan on keeping them for reference because they have some nifty arguments that don't fit in "hints that x was really y". Basically there will be a little link to the theory in the hints section. What actually happens will be up to subsequent editors because no one person calls the shots, but I think no one will object to this way of doing things. Unless someone objects.Manga spoilers

They probably are defraying the cost of running, but even so the sketchy ones need to be blocked. If I knew the adserver I could figure out how to report them. Googlesyndication.com is the one here?

I thought it would be the other way around: Jii as the old lady, Kaito as the maid. They could probably go either way though with their level of disguise and playing the smarter person would be more up Kaito's alley and Jii as the maid would match his real life role. Edit: Kaito probably wouldn't have made the mistake of running too fast. The problem is the old lady smoking... but maybe he finally learned to rectify his mistake as Kogoro or is using a fake smoking device?

I think Kaitou Kid (and Jii) might be on the train in disguise as room D's occupants. I thought they were case culprits because the should have ran into the string, but now they have been cleared of any role they are suspicious. First Conan accused the maid of running awfully quickly like she did sports. Second he got really close to accusing them of not mentioning the string because they didn't want to get involved in the case. Third, when all the suspects fled completely panicked at the fire, room D's occupants remained where they were until Conan told them to get a move on when they should have been terrified of fire because of their pasts like Vermouth said. The thieving duo would know a fake fire when they see one because of the stage tricks. I don't think Kaitou Kid would have a clue what is going on with the Black Org, but he might chip in a smoke bomb at the end or something like that if he sees suspicious people with guns and make some mayhem to allow Conan and crew to escape. Edit: ⇩ lol, Detective Kudo posted the same thing at the exact same time...

Ask again when you get to to chapter 609.