Chekhov MacGuffin

Merged the three signature help threads.

It's just like Kaitou Kid disguising as Doito Katsuki in the Magic Lover's Murder Case. He make look like the Pillsbury Doughboy and flirt with Sonoko, but he is still Kaitou Kid underneath which makes it all cool. Not that I think Kaitou Kid is cool, but most other people do, so you get my drift. Okiya may act all domestic now, but he's still the same badass underneath, and even when he is Okiya he is plenty capable of interesting shenanigans as his hand to hand skills (Jeet kun do maybe?) have shown. Besides Akai was always a bit of a creeper anyway, staking out the detective agency, watching Haibara, tailing Vermouth, saying mysterious threatening-sounding stuff that didn't get explained until 100+ chapters later...

I'm not sure Phoenixtears and Abs. would like to hear you say that. I also made a second part with more options, including your beloved Minerva.Also Spectra, if you are still here, I botched your vote. Sorry. You should revote again.

I really wish we knew more about this guy. I don't think the boss is in any kind of exclusive relationship with Vermouth (note the exclusive, "shared" is possible) because Vermouth was pretty forward about propositioning Gin right in front of Vodka, but maybe the boss (in disguise) and Vermouth pretended to be husband and wife occasionally as part of her Sharon act. This might make sense if the boss likes Vermouth's company (for personality reasons .. and maybe also other things); he did tell her to "come back to my side". They also share some of the same ideas, Akai being the "silver bullet", and all. If the boss uses the term "silver bullet" as well, and it wasn't just a paraphrase by Vermouth, that would be more evidence they could hang out together often.Sometimes I wonder if Gin is in the same wonky aging boat as Vermouth and they "got married" with Gin in disguise as the husband. I doubt it, because they don't seem to have any affection for one another, unless the marriage was just entirely for occasional public appearances and they actually didn't even live together (or even like each other beyond the occasional casual encounter). Also Vermouth was in America most of the time previously by the sound of it, and Gin has only had Japanese appearances in the past, although he can read English.

Anokata is a gender neutral term. Exactly. Trying to assign a gender to it is like saying "it" or "they" in English sounds male instead of female.

I think it was more of a Heiji gets to enjoy mocking Conan again moment. It would be HeijixShinichi (blegh...) if he was jealous. If anything Heiji was excited Ran confessed to Shinichi.@User 4869 Sera means plot so yes, please. I really would like more scar Akai though. If Gosho doesn't drop clues about why Bourbon hates Akai before the clash, I'll be pissed. Maybe it will work out like Jodie's reason for hunting Vermouth --an 11th hour tease before the finale.

To be fair, that clue is so vague as to be completely useless. Unless you are severely Ai-myopic, Shinichi and Ran are obviously going to get together and what series doesn't have (or try to have) a dramatic finisher? I mean, Gosho could not know what the end is yet and that would still fit.

There isn't enough room. 20 people are up already.

So I was wrong about Yonehara being the one who called Heiji out. I'm kind of annoyed though because Gosho never gave a good reason why Satake would want to call Heiji in the first place. The solution indicates she already knew why Kouhei was murdered, so there was no reason to bring detectives into it because she knows the answers. She may have gotten away with it if she didn't invite them over, and there weren't any indications that Satake wanted to be stopped or caught. Was there enough evidence to differentiate between Satake and Yonehara in that regard? @Aeyra, It probably wasn't that difficult, more so if he was keeping up to date on case theories because those things were mentioned. There is a Japanese wikipage for the phenomenon which Justwantanaccount mentioned earlier in this thread. Also, three weeks of no Conan. This was issue 36/37 which means no Conan next week, and then no Conan in issues 38 and 39. We'll get Magic Kaito for 38 and 39, but... blegh.

I think main thing holding Shinichi back from telling Ran is that he doesn't want to get her involved. Shinichi thinks Ran would want to help him and put herself in danger if she knew what he was doing. One other thing worth mentioning is that one of Shinichi's consistent character flaws is that he doesn't trust others and he doesn't like to tell them what his plans are. This caused several serious problems, perhaps most notably when he didn't tell Agasa that he was suspicious of Jodie and Araide, so Agasa let them in his house which enabled them to plant bugs and trap Conan. In the original Japanese, there was a special note that in English "boy" could mean teen or child. Also there was no live broadcast, Shinichi made that up on the spot.Conan probably could have been okay if he stayed put, and when Ran found him he lied and said "Shinichi went off that-a-way!" However, he made a poor decision by running which made people notice him. Ran is expecting to find Shinichi, but if she found Conan in the police box instead, she will wonder why he was running away from Big Ben, which is where Shinichi was supposed to be. As Conan said it might make Ran suspicious. Conan also could have tried for the lie that he was chasing after Shinichi, but that might make Ran wonder why the people she asked didn't say they saw two Japanese boys. In short, Conan screwed up doubly, first the gaffe on the phone, and second by running away.

Pretty close to yes. Quoted from the Okiya is Akai theory wiki article.

"Ano kata" isn't a name. It's a respectful way to refer to someone meaning "that person". While it would be awkward to call someone "that person" in English in most speech, it has about same no-gender-implied feeling as calling someone "the boss".

I have looked into both because I have heard both of them before. The 1st has been attributed to the Volume 19: The Case Closed Casebook, but unlike the "boss's name is somewhere in the manga" interview, I never got a quoted source for it. For 2. I first saw it here, but never got a source for it, but maybe this should narrow down places it could come from? At this point it seems like a dropped plot unless Gosho wants to use it after the Bourbon arc.

Just letting ya'll know if this thread goes more offtopic, I'm going to move it there.

They're trying to revive Voldemort!?... In an effort to make my post ontopic, I'm going to say the boss isn't Agasa because the plot would be utterly stupid if he was. There just isn't any even half-good excuse Agasa could have to justify the fact that he had been hiding Haibara and Conan from the Org while ordering them to look for and kill Sherry. I was testing you - asinine. I was researching the effects of APTX - why not haul them off to an Org lab somewhere to be studied?

He happily went along with Akai's plan despite the risk to himself, nearly was murdered by Chianti on Gin's orders, and has a Gundam pun name based on a character (Lieutenant Dren) who is an ally to Char Aznable (who is Akai's namesake). He also knows Kir is a traitor and that Conan is helping the FBI, yet the Black Org has done nothing about either of them. He would also have to trick Akai.Camel would have to be a really convincing spy whose infiltration is secret even from other operatives like Gin and Vermouth (who didn't stop Chianti from shooting) and is also willing to help the FBI seriously damage the Org to build confidence. I don't think Camel is a spy.

He did. V24,F10,Pg 6.

Someone's due for another round of Spider mansion, Mermaid, and Heiji and Kazuha captured by an evil lawyer cases.

I am pretty damn sure Gosho went that route with the telomerase adding enzyme. The only reason a lay person would put something like that in their fantastic immortality recipe is if they wanted cells to stay in a youthful state forever. Think about it, someone who isn't sciencey reads that cells start with a long length of telomeres and that every time it divides, the telomeres get shorter until the cell can't divide anymore which means it gets old (senesces) and dies. The logical thing would be to keep adding telomerase to keep the telomeres long so the cell stays young forever. That explanation obviously makes sense to some people because what else would explain all the telomerase supplements I see sold online? Edit: fixed telomerase per Kyuu It takes a lot more reading and knowledge to understand uninhibited telomerase is a ticket to fun times with cancer, and for all his clever cases, I don't think Gosho knows or cares enough to make it more believable. APTX and the cure are pretty much macGuffins, Conan and Ai are trying to get them, but it doesn't really matter what they are made of as long as they do what they are supposed to -- APTX could be extract of anti-Pandora, a cocktail of enzymes, a pill of distorted time, or Gin's distilled urine. All Gosho needs to do is add a thin veneer of science, because no one cares about the technical details of what Haibara is doing in Agasa's basement.

I'm looking for the episode where Haibara and Conan are talking together in their classroom. Haibara says she doesn't belong in this place, and Ayumi, Genta, and Mitsuhiko overhear and point out the desk that is hers saying "that desk belongs to you", and then then go in turn and say something like "I sit here", "this one is mine", and so on.

JodiexAkai is my favorite- troubled, unknown if it will work out and thus interesting plotwise, has potential for face slapping when Okiya comes out of the closet disguise.

You should post your reasons in the thread so everyone can read them. In any case, James Black has an alibi among many other reasons he isn't the boss. Also, are you saying James Black and Gin are the same person? They appeared at the same time, James in the car parked below the Detective Agency, and Gin being turned into swiss cheese by Akai on the roof of the adjacent building. ----- Also, a secret modern day criminal organization of Nazis doing diabolical research? Funny, I swear I've heard this plot somewhere else before... I sure hope not. Also, wouldn't the German equivalent of the FBI or CIA want to be involved?

I don't think any slipper switching happened because I think the wife dumped poison on the door handle to try to kill the son which explains the creepy laughter and general unconcern. The only reason why there would be switching in my explanation is if the wife asked the secretary to kill the son with poison and then the sec betrayed the wife in order to implicate her. I didn't see any signs of collusion, no glances or strange things said, so I'm thinking they didn't collaborate. That's what I've heard. Along the same lines, toilets and showers may be in different rooms because of the human waste dirtiness taboo.