Chekhov MacGuffin

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Jodie matched Vermouth, Sharon, and Chris's fingerprints to each other. Akai thinks they are the same person as well. So does Conan for different reasons involving his visit to NYC.It's possible Vermouth could have actually had a daughter as Sharon, but the same Vermouth is definitely Chris now because of the prints. It's also possible that Vermouth is not aging and thus faked a pregnancy (remember she was ultra secretive about her personal life) to prepare in advance for when she would need to switch into a younger disguise because her Sharon one would eventually get too old and require more and more makeup to hide Vermouth's young face..

I'd like to point out Jodie matched Vermouth's fingerprints with both Chris and Sharon proving they are the same person. Also Akai Shuuichi and Conan came to the same conclusion that Sharon is Chris is Vermouth, which means three detectives think Sharon and Chris are the same person. We have sections on how they respectively came to those conclusions in the Vermouth article.Jodie's discovery Chris Vineyard, Sharon Vineyard and Vermouth are the same person Conan's discovery Chris Vineyard, Sharon Vineyard and Vermouth are the same person

He does get paid for some of the ones he just runs into for according to the Conan Drill. One example is the The Shinkansen's Bomb Case (M33-35, A5) where he bagged a what-seems-to-be-standard-fee of ¥120000 (~USD 1484.78) Looking at the list, he doesn't always get the money for cases he runs into, and most of his income does seem to come from cases he was hired for. I don't know if the police pays him or surviving people do out of gratitude. He still got paid ¥75000 (~USD 928.00) for the sister murder case in the bathroom with the ducttape (M197-199, A121-122), and I don't think the culprit would pay him.

I must have missed it. I would have like to have seen it, if you have a copy somewhere.

This theory is subject to change, as it is preliminary and may be incorrect. This is case uses illusions as its gimmick. Murder of Wakamatsu Ikurou The mystery person at the Karuizawa house and their note Murder of Wakamatsu Kouhei

Do so. I linked all the DCW topics I could find in the original post. Please create any we don't have.

Try logging out and then back in again. That problem usually resolves over time whenever I have it. Hmm. Maybe there is a forum error page I can look for.

Maybe it's because he took the belt off and left it in the car attached to the ball, so it kept the ball from deflating? If so, that is the most impressively compact air inflation pump I have ever seen because I think it would need a much bigger canister of compressed air in order to keep inflating the ball long enough for Megure to arrive. :|

Vermouth showing up, saying something to Gin we couldn't hear, and then Gin calling off Chianti after that is a pretty good indication Vermouth is involved. Bourbon is the one who is doing all the footwork and case solving, so it's mostly his effort, not Vermouth's. I think it would be weird if every bad guy in DC was a master of disguise capable of latex perfection, so I think it is a good call on Gosho's part to have Vermouth help Bourbon with this. Okiya's disguise is pretty simple if he is Akai: Glasses and a wig or hair dye + straightening. Regarding two people disguising seeming implausible plotwise, Gosho has already pulled the festival of disguise card once before for the Vermouth arc climax. We had Vermouth as Araide, Conan as Haibara, Heiji as Shinichi as the invisible man, Vodka as a zombie, Yukiko as Medusa, and the case culprit disguising the primary case suspect as himself. Okiya and scar Akai are small potatoes compared to the 30 disguise pileup that was Volume 42. But the quote's context implies that the detective she was talking about is the one who set up the plan to trick Gin and the Black Org by faking Akai's death. Since Conan was part of the fake Akai's death plan, it would make sense that Conan was the one. Gosho wrote/drew it like that to trick the readers into thinking Okiya sent it Mouri the text first. This is also the reason why scar Akai was not shown using his phone earlier. Then next file there is the shocking twist that it wasn't Okiya who sent it.

Earlier there are a lot of differences. The anime botched several plot related cases like the Shinkensen Bomb case (episode 5, manga 33-35). Gin and Vodka really appeared in that one in the manga and Conan learned their codenames. The anime also badly botched The Strange Person Hunt Murder Case (Episode 13, Manga 13-16). In the manga, Akemi was killed by Gin who also appeared with Vodka. The episode had to be redone in 128. The detective boys were introduced later in the manga (Manga 17-19, Episode 20 A Haunted Mansion Murder Case) so they didn't appear in several cases where they were shown in the anime. Another difference is the ordering of the cases. The anime also censors some things including some blood and injuries. The anime got a lot better about sticking to the manga by the time the Vermouth arc rolled around but even now there are some differences and clues they overlooked. All things listed in spoilers HAVE been made into anime episodes There is a thread in another forum that lists more. Because of the changes, the result is that the anime is considered less canon than the manga by fans. It also means that arc solving (Vermouth, Kir, Bourbon) requires reading the manga because the animators get stuff wrong or change scenes, creating contradictions.

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The first version of explaining common Okiya is not Akai rebuttals is done. If anyone has anything to add or arguments to make, go for it.

I changed the poll because I though the first two questions were too similar. I hope no one minds. To recast your vote, select delete my vote and then revote.

Balthazar you asked how I felt on all of the issues in a PM, but I decided to post my response here to kick start the discussion. All the links elaborate on my thoughts of the issues. Items and things Plot people People General issues (please see relevant threads) Specific current issues Manga spoilers

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Discuss unresolved parts of past and current plots here, although please consider typing in-depth discussion in the relevant topical thread if possible, or creating a separate thread if necessary. For your convenience here is a list of many of the unresolved plots. Please suggest any additions or links to threads where a plot is being discussed.(I did not come up with all of these. Please see original post here.) Items and things • What is in the P.S. of Akemi's last text message to Akai? • What (besides drug data) is on the bloody disk that Haibara lied about losing at the Haido City Hotel? • What was the program about that Itakura couldn't complete for the sake of humanity? • What is the goal of the APTX 4869 project? • What kind of drug is Silver Bullet? Is Silver Bullet a different/early name for the project called APTX 4869? • What kind of drug did the Black Organization really want Shiho to make and how is it different than what she and her parents' actually made? • Night Baron Virus - the Org used it once and it was in another case. What does it signify and is their more plot relevance to it? • What happened to the handkerchief that Vermouth as Sharon gave Ran in the New York case? • What else is on the four tapes left for Haibara by her parents? Why were certain portions blank? • Why were the BO at the mermaid island and are any of the names in the guestbook besides Sherry's, Gin's alias, and Vodka's alias important? (Some discussion is in the main boss thread) Plot people • Vermouth's aging issue, her connection to the Miyanos, and APTX4869 • What is the reason for the antipathy between Sherry and Vermouth? Why does Vermouth hate the Miyanos? • Why is Vermouth the boss's favorite when she is somewhat treacherous? • What secret does Amuro know about the boss and Vermouth's relationship that he is using to blackmail her? (File 898) • "Silver bullets": What is Vermouth plotting by collecting people with the capability to destroy the Organization? • What is Vermouth's precise reason for hiding Shinichi and Shiho's deaging from the rest of the Organization? Is it something more than Shinichi is one of Vermouth's two angels, along with Ran? • Where was Vermouth telephoning Itakura from that had a cat or something that sounds like one? • Why did Vermouth as Sharon and Itakura have a bad relationship? (Volume 78.) • Jodie’s father - how did he find out about Vermouth and what did he find that forced Vermouth to take direct action, kill him, and burn his house down with all the evidence inside? • The husband of Vermouth as Sharon Vineyard - who is he? • Elena and Atsushi Miyano: their lives, their supposed death by accident that they seemed to know about in advance, their connection with Agasa • What secret thing did Miyano Atsushi want to tell Dejima Souhei, but was unable to, when he came to visit with his wife and Akemi 20 years ago? • Shiho and Akemi: why their different fates within the org? One became a high ranked member, the other lived a more normal life. • Why does the boss fear Akai is a silver bullet? • Gin and Akai: how did the personal rivalry start when they probably hadn't met each other much if at all before Akai was ejected from the Org? • If Jodie Starling went into the witness protection program, does that mean Jodie Starling is not her real name? If so what is it? • Amuro's past with Date • Amuro's past in the Organization and childhood connection to Elena Miyano • Who was the mysterious man who staked out Akai's meeting with Gin that Camel ruined? • What is the connection between Gin and Sherry? • What was Conan going to ask Ai after the showdown with Gin? "Hey… Could it be that when you were in the BO…". (Volume 24, File 242) • Shiho's foreshadowed meeting with Akai • Okiya's/Akai's promise with a certain woman. (Probably Akemi) People • Agasa's mysterious friends/connections - to the Miyanos and to unknown parties. • Magic Kaito's Organization related to the Black Organization? How much of Magic Kaito's Pandora story will carry over to DC? • Toichi, Vermouth, and Yukiko - how did that master-apprenticeship start? • Kogoro's absent past and relatives. What was he doing (besides romancing Eri), why did he decide to join the police in the first place when he seemed like a delinquent at school, why did he leave the force, who and where are Kogoro's family, and why do they never appear? • Calvados: was he important for anything other than making Chianti and Korn angry at Vermouth? • James Black: Does he have more relevance or a past? • Shizuka and Heizo Hattori: what are they doing, how are they connected to the story and why don't they come back? • What is the relationship to the plot, if any, of minor recurring characters such as Okino Yoko, Sanada Kazumi, Azusa Enemoto, Akagi Hide, Osamu Kenzaki, etc...? • How did Akai Shuuichi's father die? General issues (please see relevant threads) • Boss's identity • Purpose of the Org and their research: Biochem, computer agenda? • What's the Org's connection with America? Why did the FBI and CIA get involved in the first place? • List of plot points about the Black Organization Specific "current" issues • Ran wondering about when Shinichi touched and got fingerprints on Heiji's omamori and the effect on the plot. (Volume 66: Files 8-10 (693-695)) • Sera Masumi's identity and reason for coming to Japan (Partially resolved Masumi is Akai's sister) • Sera's past connection to Shinichi. (general thread) • Why does Sera think she is a bad kid while watching Ran treat Conan's injury? • What is the incident involving waves that Ran remembers Sera from? • The identity of Masumi's "Wizard" (general thread) • The identity of the Akai family middle brother • Why is Mary, Masumi and Shuuichi's mother, a child and how did that circumstance come about? Why is she in Japan now? • Who is Rum? • Why did Kir send a message about Rum only now? • What is Rum's current goal? • Why are there many conflicting accounts about Rum's appearance, but everyone agrees about the fake eye? • Who the 2 mothers that Aoyama has said are sisters in an interview? • Who keeps reposting the information about Haneda Kohji's death? • How did Haneda Kohji find out information about Rum, and what were the circumstances that led up to his death? • What is the drug that Ai said the BO wanted her to make that wasn't her parents' APTX 4869 project? • Who is Wakasa Rumi and what are her motives? • What is Hyoue Kuroda's past with the Japanese police and injury, and from whom did he learn that Conan is the brains behind Sleeping Kogoro? • Who is Momiji Ooka and why does she think Heiji is her future husband? Resolved • What was Elena about to say on the tape intended to be heard on Shiho's 18th Birthday? (Resolved 821 see wiki for APTX or Elena Miyano) • Yukiko and Yusaku Kudo: what are they doing, how are they connected to the story and why don't they come back? (somewhat resolved with London arc and more resolved for Yukiko in the Bell tree express arc) • Okiya's identity (Resolved as Akai Shuuichi) • Scar Akai's identity (resolved in 822 as Vermouth (train) and Bourbon (Teito bank, Beika dept store, Mouri Detective agency) • Will Kaitou Kid ever get involved in the plot? (Yes, in the train case although he doesn't know about the BO apparently. According to a postcard, Kaitou Kid won;t be involved in the final showdown.) • Is the violent robbery syndicate whose headquarters and warehouse are in Tottori related to the Black Organization? (Volume 44: Files 4-6 (450-452)) (sort of resolved because an interview with Gosho indicated that the BO and Tottori don't have a connection) • Haibara's strange reaction to Kurayoshi city (倉吉市), Tottori or perhaps Tottori in general (sort of resolved because an interview with Gosho indicated that the BO and Tottori don't have a connection) • Who were the shadow people who Akai asked to follow Yukiko and the Detective boys? (Gosho said in an interview we can ignore them) • Why does Bourbon hate Akai? (Akai was related to secret police agent Scotch's death) • Bourbon's promise with Vermouth (File 800 or so) - to not touch Ran or Conan no matter what happens. • How or why did the Secret Police agent known as Scotch die, and how was Akai Shuuichi related to his death? - Suicide, which Bourbon thought was murder. • The identity of the small child from the hotel - Mary is Masumi and Shuuichi's mother

List of clues that Hakuba was really Kaitou Kid in Movie 10.

I remember she came really close though when Conan pulled the anaesthetizing needle out of the rear region of her pants in the Tequila case. She missed and hit Kogoro's face. I think she's also hurt Conan unintentionally when she was distracted by thinking about someone else; I vaguely remember one scene where she squeezed his hand really tightly because she was angry at Shinichi.

Gosho regularly gives out freebee clues that help solve the arc that Conan doesn't know. One of the strongest clues happened in the Vermouth arc where we had Jodie's pictures of Vermouth's pictures and the pictures in Vermouth's office. We saw Vermouth was Chris Vineyard and thus an actress at the end of the Haido City Hotel case, but Conan didn't get to figure that out until much later. Also Akai and James were in league with one another which we found out in the Vermouth arc, but Conan didn't find out until the start of the Kir arc until they told him the answer. Another reader only hint was Kir's hesitation right before she directs Domon to the bench where he will be assassinated, showing that she has second thoughts about what she is doing. There are also lots of scenes of the Black Org which tell us what they are doing, but Conan doesn't know (Gin looking for someone in Sherry's intro case, Vermouth finding Kir was at a hospital, etc.) And Bourbon could be disguising as well, with Vermouth's help. Also your second paragraph makes the rest of the point I was going to make. Read here. Yes, Conan probably has a pretty good idea of how it went down at Raiha pass, even though we wasn't there because he would have been around for the planning. Remember Kir's quote to Gin. "Tricks? What kind of tricks could I use? ...(skip monologue here)... There's no means of utilizing any sort of trick. That is, unless you're implying he or I had superhuman brainpower that allowed us to calculate that far ahead... maybe then we could have tricked you. Yes, like that of Sherlock Holmes." It strongly implies that Kir was referencing Conan in that conversation. It was a hint to the reader to look for a trick that Conan could be involved in much like (highlight for manga spoilers)James Black mentioning he cultivated such eyes which was a somewhat blunt hint to the readers to look at eyes, specifically Sera's. And then in the most recent case, eye was scratched on the wall. (end spoilers) Conan doesn't like people dead, even bad guys. He would have interfered no matter who was walking out the door. Also something strange happened at the time which made Conan doubt his hypothesis that scar Akai was Bourbon - Jodie got a message from someone on the back of a coaster telling her it was dangerous here. You can tell from Conan's expression he is confused at hearing about that. (He gets the "....."s.) When Okiya appears, Conan realized that Okiya could have left it as well and also Okiya says talks about knowing someone which confirms for Conan someone is in disguise as Akai. Scar Akai sent the mail. Ran mailed back a random man who confirmed scar Akai had his phone. Also we know it wasn't Okiya because Okiya would have included info about the snowy mountains case because we know he looked it up earlier. Scar Akai may not have had access to the internet on his borrowed phone, so he didn't include the details.Also, if scar Akai went through the trouble of handing the man back the phone with a hanky to avoid fingerprints, it's only logical he would have also wiped the buttons down with the hanky to remove his fingerprints before handing it back. Also your trick wouldn't work. He still has to handle the borrowed phone in order to send the message to Kogoro's phone from it. He would have to use the buttons on the borrowed phone anyway in order to type in Kogoro's mail address. It also means he leaves his real phone's address on the borrowed phone when he sent the original message. He could have deleted it, but the phone company would still have a record of it and some phones can undelete messages, or worse, forward text messages to email where they can't be deleted by Bourbon. The best strategy was the one Scar Akai used, steal someone's phone, use it to send the message, meaning he doesn't have to use his own phone or phone number and then wipe it down. The only "flaw" I see in the plan was giving the man his phone back at all. Scar Akai could have just thrown it out so the man didn't see who used it; however, Gosho has got to give the reader some clues to work with here. If the BO was perfect, there would be no mystery. Maybe his borrowed phone doesn't have internet which is why he didn't use it. Even if his real phone did have internet, maybe he didn't want to even bring it out because he didn't want anything on camera. He knew that he was on video recording even. But in all of scar Akai's appearances, he wasn't seen using a phone. It would be really hard to remember every detail in order to send it to someone else unless you are constantly texting information to keep track of it. Think of the detective boys who were sending info to Heiji in the warehouse case. They were constantly taking pictures and typing info in order to make sure he got the necessary clues.

But he hasn't, many cases later, and he's even protected her a few times in the middle. Assuming Okiya is not stupid, he could tell Haibara was Sherry on their first meeting because she is very distinctive looking. If Okiya knows who Conan is and knows who Ai is, why hasn't he made any moves? He's had lots of chances. He could tell when Agasa and Conan are away because he has been watching and listening.

I don't think plastic surgery could cover it. Even assuming extreme training (it would have to be, even for a young person), how could someone with a fifty year old woman's body suddenly vault up over a handrail from a dead hanging position while shot in the side? - which is what happened in the NYC arc. A 20 or 30 year old's body I could understand, but 50? Now if Vermouth was age-locked into a 20 to 30 year old's body which means she keeps her youthful strength...