Chekhov MacGuffin

file 761 spoiler I like how Conan kicks the soccer ball into the face of an adult man hard enough to knock him out and Takagi's reaction is to simply look surprised. I wonder how he is going to describe the suspect apprehension in his arrest report?

37.8 taken in the mouth is generally considered a fever despite temperature variations between people. It is not a high fever, but still considered a fever by most doctors. Most school guidelines that I have seen generally say don't take your kid to school if they are running a fever of 100F or greater which works out to be about 37.8. If you are used to seeing Fahrenheit, I put the conversions above.

Someone we haven't met yet. My personal pet boss theory is that the boss will be discovered through a case from Kogoro's past or the like. The reason for this is I noticed that there is a mysterious absence of anything to do with Kogoro's family background. He's a main character and absolutely nothing has been mentioned even in passing about any of his kin beyond Ran. Comparing the other main characters Shinichi - Mom and Dad Ran - Mom (but because she is related to Kogoro no one else) Agasa - family in general mentioned, aunt, uncle, cousin’s granddaughter Sonoko - mom, dad, sister, uncles Haibara - Mom, Dad, Sister Ayumi - Mom, Dad, (know she is only child) Mitsuhiko - Dad, sister Genta - Mom and Dad Hattori - Mom and dad The police have less background than other char groups Megure - ? Sato - mom and dad Takagi - ? (I think something might have been said at some point. I'll review.) Shiratori - know his family is rich, had a butler person (if I remember correctly) Basically considering Kogoro is in the top three along with Ran and Conan, it's weird his family hasn't been mentioned even once regardless of whether they are alive or not. You would think Gosho would want to write a dramatic case where one of Kogoro's family members is a case suspect or a victim. Considering the length of the manga and that character family related stories are otherwise quite common, I believe this omission is intentional. I can think of three reasons why Gosho would not want to introduce a relative of Kogoro too early: a.) It would be too big of a hint. b.) It would call unwanted attention and suspicion where Gosho does not yet want it. c.) It serves as a major plot key which will enable Conan to solve a very important mystery. Given that this censorship of Kogoro's kin has been going on since the very beginning of the manga, it would be logical to assume that the reason is pertinent to the overarching mysteries - namely what is the true nature of the Org, who is the boss, and what is its goal. Also assuming Gosho had some idea what the end of DC should be when he began writing it, he would probably construct the ending so that in case DC turned out to be only sort of popular, he could end it quickly using the available characters which would be Conan, Kogoro, Ran, Agasa, the DB, and Megure. As DC became more complicated in the Haibara and then Vermouth arcs when more characters were introduced, he probably started expounding on the final solution while keeping the original core the same. There are two main ways I think Kogoro could be connected to the Org: a.) Someone(s) in Kogoro's family has a critical connection or position in the Org. I do not support the theory that Kogoro himself is part of the Crow Corps, but with the family name "Mouri", and its difficult-to-ignore resemblance to "Moriarty" from the Sherlock canon, I think that this theory concerning relatives on the dark side holds thematic appeal. (Yes, I know about Mouri and Maurice Leblanc, but a double pun is possible. Mouri/(モウリ)/[Mouri] vs. Moriaty/(モリアーティ)/[moriaati] vs. and Maurice/(モーリス)/Moorisu) b.) Someone(s) in Kogoro's family was a victim of the Org, and that the circumstances/mystery behind it are a major clue to one of the central mysteries like the identity of the boss, or the org's name, etc. Basically this case from Kogoro's past is the case that lets Conan get the info he needs to really crack the Org mystery open. Summing it up: Kogoro's relatives are suspiciously absent.

My thoughts are no. Magic Kaito's Pandora thing isn't canon to DC other than Kaito Kid making vague references to jewels not being what he is looking for. Kaito Kid doesn't have any relevance to the DC main plot either; his only appearances are "fillers". Also the Magic Kaito Org was considerably less cautious than the DC Black Org: Snake casually revealed his codename and the fact he killed Toichi to Kaito, and the boss revealed the Pandora mission outside where anyone could eavesdrop. The Pandora story doesn't make much sense either. If the comet appears once every 10,000 years than that means its last pass predates (by thousands of years) written history and the required gem cutting technique to put one cut stone in another, so how could the Pandora legend exist and not be forgotten or warped beyond recognition by thousands of years of oral tradition? Even if someone was immortal, unless immortality also comes with resistance to disease, cancer, and mortal wounds, there is a good chance anyone using it would have died due to some accident or another well before the 10,000 year mark. The MK org was the likely inspiration for the Black Org. Gosho gutted the magic in order to harmonize the mission with "science" because magic and detective fiction don't mix, made the Black Org more serious, and redesigned it so it could be unraveled over many mysteries and plot arcs.

Why go through the work or the detection needed to figure out which type of accounts are which? I doubt DCW is drowning under the data of unused accounts. If someone wants to claim a better name belonging to an unused account, then let there be some criteria - like the person who wants the account name needs to have X posts and desired never-posted account is given a notification they have two weeks to reply to.

If you run a Windows box, Ms paint is an easy way to crop and save (but not resize), but just don't save your pics as jpegs because the loss of quality is retina searing. If you have to resize a picture in windows without any decent graphics programs, you can preview the image in a standard finder window, shrink the size of the window until it is the right size, take a screenshot of the shrunken image, and paste it back into paint. On a Mac machine, Grab might be able to do the same things as MsPaint. There might be some nicer preinstalled software though. I don't use macs, so my knowledge is pretty limited.

The boss is probably someone we haven't met yet or an extremely minor character only seen once because Aoyama would want to avoid writing himself into a corner or having the solution revealed too early.

Of course Agasa isn't the boss. That would be silly. It contradicts with his character i.e. why would the boss help Shinichi mess with his missions, try to bring the Org down, work with the FBI, or meet with the FBI. Also harboring Haibara makes no sense, if Agasa were the boss and wanted Haibara to finish her work or something like that, why would he not tell Gin and the rest of the BO stop looking for her anymore?

37, not 37.5, is considered standard. 37 degrees Celsius = 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit 37.5 degrees Celsius = 99.5 degrees Fahrenheit 37.8 degrees Celsius = 100.04 degrees Fahrenheit.

...And the Akai faked his death theory article is now mainspaced.

It's a phone number. I don't know why email address was used in translations back then. Conan specifically says if Takagi traced it and found it belonged to a land line, they could get the boss's address. Then again, I have no idea why Conan would think it was a landline. Most landlines don't receive text messages as far as I know, but then again this is the tech-feature-loving Japan we are considering.

Here's one answer for the latest chapter. Masao grabbed and specifically ordered four cards: "Ro, Ko, Ni, Te". He then asked for "Suwako Kegani Taoru" (towel with a horsehair crab from lake suwa). Notice that the three words' last syllables end in hiragana picked by Masao. Reordering the words to match the order Masao picked and adding in the te gives: Ta o ru Su wa ko Ke ga ni Te Reading the first hiragana of each word in order + Te at the end results in "Ta Su Ke Te" = "tasukete" = "Help me" There may be more to the puzzle than what I figured out, and I jumped straight to the conclusion rather than try to figure out what "I can't do without that" means.

The AO "secret of the high sales" is about as close as it comes.

Taken more literally the quote would imply zombies, taken more metaphorically, it might imply resurrecting the past or restoring things to a former state. It would be nice to see the quote in Japanese.It pairs with a quote from Haibara: “You can’t rush things. Humans can never go against the stream of time. If man forcibly tries to change that there will be punishment” – (original 20-1, 380.17, 37-8) Quoting some old stuff I wrote on the topic... I’m favoring the idea that immortality or anti-aging is one of the ultimate goals of the organization. 1) The anti-aging side-effects of APTX 4869 probably indicate main intent of the drug. It probably was just a useful side effect that it happened to leave no trace in the victim’s body, and was employed as a poison. Supporting this is Ai’s line, "Kudo-kun? You would probably never even dream that you are already part of a project the Black Organization has been working on already for half a century." (V19-9 or file 191/ep 130-131) APTX 4869 is the only known intersection between Shinichi and the B.O. Also, APTX4869 was called the "incomplete detective" - which means its true purpose has not yet been achieved. 2) According to Haibara’s description about APTX (V24-10), it messes with telomerase and “the reproductive potential” of cells. A non-biologist like Gosho constructing the story might latch onto the idea that adding telomerase would increase the lifespan and number of divisions a cell could undergo, lengthening the organism’s lifespan. 3) Shiho Miyano’s name was on the raffle list for the immortality arrows in the mermaid case in Fukui (279-283) 4) Failure of Vermouth/Chris Vineyard to age. (She hasn’t changed much since she murdered Jodie’s parents twenty years ago [433]) If this didn’t have some important plot related reason behind it, it would be quite out of place. 5) If the organization from Magic Kaito is the same Black Org, then the search for “Pandora’s box” (the jewel for immortality) pretty much gives it away; however the MK org is almost certainly not canon to DC. Gosho himself confirmed in an interview somewhere that the two Orgs are not related at all, so this point is moot. The computer/programming aspect of the B.O. kind of bothers me. It is known they have some involvement with computer viruses (Night Baron); however, it may also be related to the main biochemistry agenda. Whatever it is, it prompted Itakura to say that he didn’t want to complete his program “for the sake of humanity” (380.12). That would imply that it has some negative purpose, and could affect a lot of people. It could be another computer virus meant for a wide scale attack, but there are other possibilities as well especially since they were interested in a program by game designer Itakura. Itakura’s program is something an ordinary person would program; specifically someone who programmed games. It probably was a personal project of Itakura's as he was able to stop developing it on a whim; something he wouldn't be able to do so easily if he was paid to make it. If it is a personal project, it doesn't have to be specifically related to games. It could be something related to game development like artificial intelligence, networking, modeling, rendering, etc, or it could be something completely different. That the BO could find out about it in the first place probably indicates that Itakura didn't keep it secret. That means it probably not a virus or something highly illegal Itakura would not want to speak of, although modified it may have those applications. I don't really have any ideas of what the computer agenda is, other than I suspect it's different than the biochemistry agenda: i.e. not a tool to come up with better APTX prototypes. Going along with the immortality agenda, it might be some kind of AI, perhaps one designed to be a replica of a person allowing them to live forever on a computer. Another idea is some kind of "omniscience program" which appeals to the bad for humanity part.

No Shinichi hasn't cried and this is a deliberate choice by Gosho. I remember there was a discussion about this in the DCTP cbox. He may be prepping for an eventual scene where Shinichi cries to maximize impact or Shinichi might not cry at all.

I don't think Conan would be especially interested because I doubt he wants to push into her private affairs, especially if the memories associated with them are bad. I'm pretty sure Conan is aware of the possibility that Gin and Sherry were together. He started to ask her on page 15 of Volume 24 - 11, but she cut him off. (It's ep 178)

Let's not get off topic. Besides, if Conan and Ai were to get together, I think he would overlook Ai's past with Gin.

I think he was referring to the fact Ran was hand drawn and thus doesn't match official art. This is clearly a fanmade poster.

Got it. Conan Drill lists it as unknown "生年月日不明" on page 44. Also shouldn't this discussion be on the article talk page?

The problem with this theory is a similar situation was used to misleadingly hint that FBI agent Jodie was Vermouth when she drank sherry. (Volume 34 File 4 Page 4) Also Andre Camel noted that bourbon is Akai's favorite drink. (Volume 32 File 8-10) The reason why Akai gives Haibara the Org smell was because he infiltrated the Black Organization before with the alias Moroboshi Dai where he received the codename Rye and worked under Gin. Akai has already given Haibara the Black Org vibes before. (Volume 32 File 9 Page 12; Volume 38 File 1 Page 18)The article for the Okiya is Akai theory goes over more reasons why Okiya isn't Bourbon.

Triangulate SatoxTakagi by adding a new female character to the Tokyo Met who likes Takagi. Then I would team up said female with Takagi on some cases to get Sato jealous. Finally said female would commit suicide to save Takagi because it turns out she was a Black Org spy whose feelings for Takagi led her to want to save him from stumbling into the Org's crosshairs during a case and getting killed. And then Takagi cries even though he still loves Sato. Also a Haibara-takes-an-antidote-for-some-reason-even-if-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-Org case. I'd also like to see more of Hakuba, specifically as a rival for Shinichi and Hattori. Hattori started as a rival for Shinichi, but now they work together, leaving the rival spot open. Kogoro. More of Kogoro being awesome, and perhaps a little vague hinting that he knows that Conan is Shinichi just to make people wonder. Gin on a motorcycle.

You would think Haibara of all people would have learned by now Conan is usually spot on. She was also the one who suggested going straight into the fire by visiting the room in question. If there is a possibility that one kid is being held by unfamiliar adults, more kids visiting those people would be unwise. It's probably too soon for another Okiya rescue appearance. Ditto for Hattori as he appeared ~20 chaps ago. (Doesn't he usually come in the summer?) Assuming the bad guys grab the kids for being too nosy and take their phones, Conan will probably notice they haven't called back and assume they got in trouble. Conan will probably call for rescue, most likely the police, because he is too sick to go himself. We haven't seen Sato in a while. Or we could find out Ayumi's mom is really a 10th Dan Judo master.

1.Even so, the BO would have realised if their high ranking member turned younger won't they? This is the other reason Vermouth taking APTX4869 doesn't make sense; if they knew APTX4869 deaged people, the Org would have figured out how Shiho escaped. Atsushi and Elena Miyano may have started the APTX4869 project but the general project may have been started by someone else. Vermouth seems like she wants the Black Org to be brought down, but for some reason is unable to do so or does not want to do so herself. Rather than directly attacking the Org, she seems to have decided to give Shinichi and Shiho a fair and fighting chance to take he Org down and is helping them by keeping their secret and using her influence to keep them from being killed. (She saved Conan from being shot by Gin and co and Mouri Detective agency.) As for why she isn't completely loyal to the Org, it could be that over time her views and perspective have changed so she no longer sees eye to eye with the Org's mission. (Because of her anti-aging condition?) She could also be held “hostage” in some way. That conversation was by text message.

Right now, it isn't clear if Vermouth isn't aging at all or got younger at some point because of an experimental drug. She probably never took APTX4869 because, at the time, the Org believed (and still believes) that APTX was incomplete and that it only worked as a poison. Vermouth would have needed to take something else. Sharon’s mother may also be Vermouth because she died in a fire on the day Sharon debuted. (vol 35-1 page 2) Sharon may not be Vermouth’s first alias. Vermouth would currently have to be 70-85 if Sharon's mom was also Vermouth as well. This would imply that APTX in its current incarnation isn’t the source of Vermouth’s apparent failure to age. Shiho’s parents and their experiments are too young to account for the timepoint. It would have to be Shiho’s grandparents or something else. Based on the above info, it could be that something affected Vermouth a long time ago which halted her aging, but the Org has been unable to replicate the effects. Atsushi and Elena Miyano may have created APTX4869 based on Vermouth. Later when Shiho took up the research, she would have had to come into contact with Vermouth which explains why despite being a researcher, she knows Vermouth well enough personally to be terrified. Note that if Vermouth's aging was halted when she was 20-30 years old, the triggering event would have occurred 50+ years before the current time, matching up with Shiho's quote about how Kudo is part of an Org project that has been going on for over half a century. (file 189, but see the ep 130/131 for a better translation) The project she is mentioning is the Org's immortality project that started with Vermouth and which APTX4869 is a subproject within. Vermouth's resentment of her condition is probably the reason behind her dislike of all the Miyanos and their “foolish”(434) research. Vermouth's resentment may also be why she seems to want the Black Org brought down - she is tired of it all. I imagine her non-aging is also the reason for the boss's favoritism.

Back to the main topic, Gin and Shiho's relationship has been mentioned in the official Conan Drill guidebook (Specifically it's the relationship diagram on page 239). I moved the arrow legend to the top to save space. Note it was written before the conclusion of the Vermouth arc before Gin had suspicions about Vermouth being up to no good and keeping dangerous secrets. In case the image goes down, the text of the image is in the spoiler Gin's connection with Sherry which has led to his obsession over hunting her down and her hatred and extreme fear of him probably goes back to a relationship they had before Shiho betrayed the Org. Gin clearly knows Shiho personality very well as he can anticipate her movements despite having rather different lines of work. Shiho hardly knew most of the other agents in non-science related positions. She hadn't met Pisco since she was a baby, she had only heard of Korn and Chianti, and hadn't heard of Kir. Bourbon is new and thus doesn't count. Conan never asked about Tequila. Vermouth likely had a connection with the parents because of her apparent aging weirdness despite not being in science. Gin is on the business/assassination side of things, so it is anomalous how well he seems to know her given how she doesn't know much about anyone else outside of the research branch. They clearly have a connection outside of their professions to account for knowing each other so well. They must have spent lots of time together if Gin can identify her from a single hair with conviction. There are various possibilities for relationships between Shiho and Gin, like childhood friends (age difference could be an issue), mutual relationship or one sided attraction or abuse (Age difference again is an issue and that Shiho was in America until recently), mentor-mentee, etc. There is a strong case to be made for a romantic mutual relationship or onesided attraction using a good retranslation of the first chapter of the Reunion with the Black Org (the Pisco case) (file 24-7 or 238, ep 176) where the translator pointed out the innuendo Gin was using. (The retranslation was by kentaru). The retranslated monologue of Gin's in the dream is as follows: The translator also had a notes page from which I will quote a relevant section: Now, add this information to Gin's description of their meeting as a "reunion", him thinking of her in the nude, and Haibara yelling "Don't touch me!" when Ayumi places her hand on Haibara's arm, snapping her out remembering her dream. Furthermore, when the two of them meet on the rooftop of the Hyde City Hotel, there are more suggestive exchanges. Gin purposefully chose not to do his job in the most efficient fashion- shooting Shiho in the chimney- but instead chose to make a special exception for her by waiting out for her on the snowy rooftop because killing her there would be, paraphrasing, more beautiful. She even gets into the act by thanking him, albeit sarcastically, for "waiting for her in the cold"; Shiho seems to purposefully be alluding to the stereotypic scenario of one lover waiting for another in poor climate. Gin also makes a comment about her disguise, the uniform and the glasses, being unsuitable for her, which carries an implication that he thinks there is some other outfit which would be more suitable. In conclusion, I think there is significant evidence that they had a romantic relationship going on between them because I don't think Gin would, even though part of it is a dream, phrase things like that for the heck of it. The rooftop exchange seems to corroborate with Gin's dream personality. Whatever kind of relationship they had obviously didn't work out, probably because of Gin's messed up personality. Based on the fact Gin is still obsessing, Shiho was probably the one to dump him.