tengaku squared 291 Report post Posted September 26, 2011 It looks like I've really made little progress in the lessons. Well, I'm really not that good at multi-tasking (i.e: being lazy). :V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted September 26, 2011 Actually love is: sa-rang So in a sentence it would be: 'Nan nuh sa rang heh.' (I love you.) This is non-formal. I would like to add that ehy (의) also makes it possessive. Like 'geu-deul-ehy' would mean those men/boys' ___ (you would add something after ehy.) This is very true. Also, if you would like to make it into a question you would say: gat-chi-hal-ka-yo? (Would you like to word together?) this is formal. gat-chi-hal-ka? (Same, but non-formal.) Also: gat-chi-ha-za! (Let's do this together!) This is non-formal. nice! Now I learned as well lol... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tengaku squared 291 Report post Posted September 26, 2011 In general, to make a sentence polite, add -yo to the end of it. This is really subject to context, though, so this isn't a general rule of thumb, and can actually end up in some funny mistakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted September 27, 2011 In general, to make a sentence polite, add -yo to the end of it. This is really subject to context, though, so this isn't a general rule of thumb, and can actually end up in some funny mistakes. Yes. That is true in conversations(most of the time). If you are writing essays, you would write differently, which will take so much time for me to squeeze out all of it... ham-ni-da ha-myuh i-myuh yuht-su-mu-ro etc.... tons. TONS! I say! @_@ Anyways, let's leave the advanced stuff aside for now and start going into "ni-eun" (I can't type korean for some reason....) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-The Rising Angel- 48 Report post Posted November 14, 2011 Oi, can someone teach me Korean...I mean like I'm learning Japanese in school >_< I really wanna know So Moho-kun and Cure-kun *bows* onegai shimasu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted November 16, 2011 Oi, can someone teach me Korean...I mean like I'm learning Japanese in school >_< I really wanna know So Moho-kun and Cure-kun *bows* onegai shimasu Sure I can, but it's just that Moho hasn't made any progress (or is still working on it) for the Korean classroom. 1. You have to know the consonent/vowel and their sounds for the start. 2. Start practicing combinations. 3. Unique sounds and the rules of reading/pronouncing Korean. 4. Basic vocabs for survival. 5. Grammar. Expect a lot of vocabs. After that, it's more Advanced. meaning there's much more. 1. Rule of Formal and Familiar: Similar to Japanese, there's formal, and familiar add-ons and phrases/words. Expect vocabularies. 2. ??** If you can take the challenge: Hanja (Kinda like Kanji, but there are some characters ONLY used in korea and NOT used at all. Some also have different meanings. and of course, pronounciations are differnt but some are similar like Yak-sok, meaning promise) others are: Slangs, dialects, etc... Slangs are easy to learn, but dialect is very difficult because there different words they use and they have their own Grammar... **Yohan and I have to think... It's been long time I've spoken Korean. I got all this from Yohan via mail... he knows more Korean than I do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitou Kid Legendary Thief 197 Report post Posted November 16, 2011 Haha most of the words I've learnt come from watching Korean drama. And may only understand when I listen. How about teaching us simple terms like how to introduce ourselves. How to say we're happy, or sad? :V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted November 17, 2011 I'd like to, but Moho haven't finished the basics yet. and I'm not sure If I can make a new topic for it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitou Kid Legendary Thief 197 Report post Posted November 17, 2011 I see. How about putting it here? :V until it is up, I think it's alright to 'chat' about it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted November 17, 2011 well, for basics... Consonants: ㄱ,ㄴ,ㄷ,ㄹ,ㅁ,ㅂ,ㅅ,ㅇ,ㅈ,ㅊ,ㅋ,ㅌ,ㅍ,ㅎ Vowels: ㅏ,ㅑ,ㅓ,ㅕ,ㅗ,ㅛ,ㅜ,ㅠ,ㅡ,ㅣ (There are more, but that is on the Combination Categry.) of course, like Japanese, a,e,i,o,u are all short vowels when romanized. I put it so that it is easier to see which letter makes which sound. (Caps) The ones in the Parenthesis are alternative pronounciation. ㄱ: Gi-uk (Ki-uk): G sound; sometimes K ㄴ: Ni-eun : N sound ㄷ: Di-geut : D Sound ㄹ: Ri-eul (Li-eul) : R or L sound ㅁ: Mi-eum : M Sound ㅂ: Bi-eup : B sound ㅅ: Si-ot (SHi-ot) : S sound; sometimes SH ㅇ: I-eung (EE-eung) : No sound, But there are rules for this consonant. ㅈ: Zi-eut (Ji-eut) : Z and J sound ㅊ: CHi-eut : CH sound ㅋ: Ki-euk : K sound as well as strong C. Sometimes Q. ㅌ: Ti-geut : T sound ㅍ: Pi-eup : P sound; sometimes Ph and F (But Korean does not have F or PH sound so we make P sound instead) ㅎ: Hi-eung : H sound ㅏ: A ㅑ: YA ㅓ: U ㅕ: YU ㅗ: O ㅛ: YO ㅜ: OO ㅠ: YOO ㅡ: EU ㅣ: I (EE) and the chart.... (oh my god this is going to kill me) 가 갸 거 겨 고 교 구 규 그 기 (Ga Gya Guh Gyuh Go Gyo Goo Gyoo Geu Gi) 나 냐 너 녀 노 뇨 누 뉴 느 니 (Na Nya Nuh Nyuh No Nyo Noo Nyoo Neu Ni) 다 댜 더 뎌 도 됴 두 듀 드 디 (Da Dya Duh Dyuh Do Dyo Doo Dyoo Deu Di) 라 랴 러 려 로 료 루 류 르 리 (Ra Rya Ruh Ryuh Ro Ryo Roo Ryoo Reu Ri) 마 먀 머 며 모 묘 무 뮤 므 미 (Ma Mya Muh Myuh Mo Myo Moo Myoo Meu Mi) 바 뱌 버 벼 보 뵤 부 뷰 브 비 (Ba Bya Buh Byuh Bo Byo Boo Byoo Beu Bi) 사 샤 서 셔 소 쇼 수 슈 스 시 (Sa Sya Suh Syuh So Syo Soo Syoo Seu Si) 아 야 어 여 오 요 우 유 으 이 (a ya uh yuh o yo oo yoo eu i) 자 쟈 저 져 조 죠 주 쥬 즈 지 (Za Zya Zuh Zyuh Zo Zyo Zoo Zyoo Zeu Zi) 차 챠 처 쳐 초 쵸 추 츄 츠 치 (Cha Chya Chuh Chyuh Cho Chyo Choo Chyoo Cheu Chi) 카 캬 커 켜 코 쿄 쿠 큐 크 키 (Ka Kya Kuh Kyuh Ko Kyo Koo Kyoo Keu Ki) 타 탸 터 텨 토 툐 투 튜 트 티 (Ta Tya Tuh Tyuh To Tyo Too Tyoo Teu Ti) 파 퍄 퍼 펴 포 표 푸 퓨 프 피 (Pa Pya Puh Pyuh Po Pyo Poo Pyoo Peu Pi) 하 햐 허 혀 호 효 후 휴 흐 히 (Ha Hya Huh Hyuh Ho Hyo Hoo Hyoo Heu Hi) These are the basics. Now Combinations.... that is going to make my fingers bleed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-The Rising Angel- 48 Report post Posted November 18, 2011 well, for basics... Consonants: ㄱ,ㄴ,ㄷ,ㄹ,ㅁ,ㅂ,ㅅ,ㅇ,ㅈ,ㅊ,ㅋ,ㅌ,ㅍ,ㅎ Vowels: ㅏ,ㅑ,ㅓ,ㅕ,ㅗ,ㅛ,ㅜ,ㅠ,ㅡ,ㅣ (There are more, but that is on the Combination Categry.) of course, like Japanese, a,e,i,o,u are all short vowels when romanized. I put it so that it is easier to see which letter makes which sound. (Caps) The ones in the Parenthesis are alternative pronounciation. ㄱ: Gi-uk (Ki-uk): G sound; sometimes K ㄴ: Ni-eun : N sound ㄷ: Di-geut : D Sound ㄹ: Ri-eul (Li-eul) : R or L sound ㅁ: Mi-eum : M Sound ㅂ: Bi-eup : B sound ㅅ: Si-ot (SHi-ot) : S sound; sometimes SH ㅇ: I-eung (EE-eung) : No sound, But there are rules for this consonant. ㅈ: Zi-eut (Ji-eut) : Z and J sound ㅊ: CHi-eut : CH sound ㅋ: Ki-euk : K sound as well as strong C. Sometimes Q. ㅌ: Ti-geut : T sound ㅍ: Pi-eup : P sound; sometimes Ph and F (But Korean does not have F or PH sound so we make P sound instead) ㅎ: Hi-eung : H sound ㅏ: A ㅑ: YA ㅓ: U ㅕ: YU ㅗ: O ㅛ: YO ㅜ: OO ㅠ: YOO ㅡ: EU ㅣ: I (EE) and the chart.... (oh my god this is going to kill me) 가 갸 거 겨 고 교 구 규 그 기 (Ga Gya Guh Gyuh Go Gyo Goo Gyoo Geu Gi) 나 냐 너 녀 노 뇨 누 뉴 느 니 (Na Nya Nuh Nyuh No Nyo Noo Nyoo Neu Ni) 다 댜 더 뎌 도 됴 두 듀 드 디 (Da Dya Duh Dyuh Do Dyo Doo Dyoo Deu Di) 라 랴 러 려 로 료 루 류 르 리 (Ra Rya Ruh Ryuh Ro Ryo Roo Ryoo Reu Ri) 마 먀 머 며 모 묘 무 뮤 므 미 (Ma Mya Muh Myuh Mo Myo Moo Myoo Meu Mi) 바 뱌 버 벼 보 뵤 부 뷰 브 비 (Ba Bya Buh Byuh Bo Byo Boo Byoo Beu Bi) 사 샤 서 셔 소 쇼 수 슈 스 시 (Sa Sya Suh Syuh So Syo Soo Syoo Seu Si) 아 야 어 여 오 요 우 유 으 이 (a ya uh yuh o yo oo yoo eu i) 자 쟈 저 져 조 죠 주 쥬 즈 지 (Za Zya Zuh Zyuh Zo Zyo Zoo Zyoo Zeu Zi) 차 챠 처 쳐 초 쵸 추 츄 츠 치 (Cha Chya Chuh Chyuh Cho Chyo Choo Chyoo Cheu Chi) 카 캬 커 켜 코 쿄 쿠 큐 크 키 (Ka Kya Kuh Kyuh Ko Kyo Koo Kyoo Keu Ki) 타 탸 터 텨 토 툐 투 튜 트 티 (Ta Tya Tuh Tyuh To Tyo Too Tyoo Teu Ti) 파 퍄 퍼 펴 포 표 푸 퓨 프 피 (Pa Pya Puh Pyuh Po Pyo Poo Pyoo Peu Pi) 하 햐 허 혀 호 효 후 휴 흐 히 (Ha Hya Huh Hyuh Ho Hyo Hoo Hyoo Heu Hi) These are the basics. Now Combinations.... that is going to make my fingers bleed. :blink: :blink: :blink: And I thought that Chinese is gonna kill me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted November 20, 2011 :blink: :blink: :blink: And I thought that Chinese is gonna kill me... I had the same reaction when I looked at Japanese Hiragana/Katakana chart. + you have to learn Kanji... Only reason Korean is easier is because 1. All you have to know is how to pronounce the words. We do use Hanja, but we write them in Korean (sometimes in parenthesis to clarify what word is written,but mostly, we go with the flow of language.) 2. It takes time, but it's actually much easier than English since there are less tricky way to pronounce the word. Korean letters are made with only one pornounciation (with some rules to pronounce them in certain cases for "ㅇ") so it won't be much difficult once you get the hang of it. After mastering how to read, write, and speak; only thing left is learning words and grammar. Then advanced stuff like Hanja. 3. According to the history Chinese characters were very difficult to learn (and it was only taught to riches), King Se-jong decided to make a new language in order to have the people (poors, pheasants, farmers) understand what the notices say, and learn to communicate by writing. I'd say Korean and Japanese are equally difficult. It may not look like Korean use Hanja very often, but even the basic word like "우유" (Oo-Yoo), is actually Hanja: "牛乳" meaning "Cow Milk". Similarily, "모유" (Mo-Yoo), is "母乳" meaning "Mother Milk" (in English, we call it "Breast Milk") Basically, in Korean, you learn Hanja without knowing it, except for the writing since it is spoken more often. Sometimes it is better to learn Hanja because you can catch similar words faster, like the example above. "유" (Yoo) was used as the Hanja: "乳" meaning "Milk" so if you put various words(if the combined word exists,) you can actually understand it's a type of milk. other examples are: 두유 "Doo-Yoo", Soy Milk 마유"Ma-Yoo", Horse Milk 당유 "Dang-Yoo", Condensed Milk(Dang means Sugar, but we know it as Condensed Milk) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conankoibito 21 Report post Posted November 24, 2011 I am sometimes,no literally confused to the grammar.. which makes me very confuse to learn 한국어 as well. Maybe there are other ways... But this makes me very amused with korean sites:ME2DAY【SAKUNO】 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted November 24, 2011 Actually, Korean and Japanese are same when it comes to grammar. Some words even sound very similar to Japanese. I'm going to work on words that sounds same/similar to Japanese as well to make some vocabularies easier. So far I only know "Promise" 약속 (Yak-Sok) and 約束 (YakuSoku) hey sound very similar. some numbers sound alike as well. 1. 일 (il) Ichi 2. 이 (Ee) Ni 3. 삼 (sam)San 4. 사 (sa) Yon 5. 오 (Oh) Go 6. 육 (Yook)or 륙 (Ryook) Roku 7. 칠 (Chil) Shichi 8. 팔 (Pal) Hachi 9. 구 (Goo) Kyuu 10. 십 (Ship) Juu 2,3,5,6,9 sound almost alike. but thoses are advanced stuff. now for the combinations, Suppose we have the word 쀍 (Ppuwelg; pronounced Ppwelk) ㅃ is top, ㄺ is botom Double Consonants: -Top only: ㄸ(Dd),ㅃ(Pp),ㅉ (Jj) -Both:ㄲ(Kk),ㅆ(Ss) -Bottom only: ㄳ(Gs),ㄵ(Lz),ㄶ(Lh),ㄺ(Lg/Lk),ㄻ(Lm),ㄼ(Lb),ㄽ(Ls),ㄾ(Lt),ㄿ(Lp),ㅀ(Lh) (But they all vary depending on words used) Double vowels: ㅐ(ae),ㅔ(aeh),ㅒ(Yae),ㅖ(Yaeh),ㅘ(Wa),ㅙ(Wae),ㅚ(Weh),ㅝ(Wuh),ㅞ(Wueh),ㅟ(Wee/Wi),ㅢ(Eui) Please consider the following: Note: If you are having trouble with the combined vowels, think of it like this: =ㅐ and ㅔ ㅐ sounds like Apple ㅔ sounds like Bed = ㅙ, ㅚ, and ㅞ ㅙ sounds a bit longer than ㅚ on the "eh" sound ㅞ sounds like West. = ㅟ and ㅢ ㅟ Whiskey Just like "ㅡ" (Euh), "ㅢ" (Eui) is the hardest of them all, especially when it is your first time in "Eastern Asian" language. Try making "Ugh" and "Eek" sound (the bolded ones in their sound) together "UEe". It's the "ㅡ "(Euh) sound that gets everyone the first time, but it's easy once you get it. .... If I'm making that chart, I'd die.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conankoibito 21 Report post Posted December 4, 2011 KPOP 에 아니메 노래 미숙 가수 피리핀어. 내 너무따라 주세요.←Is this right!? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valkyrie 72 Report post Posted December 4, 2011 Wow! Korean! Can I join? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 KPOP 에 아니메 노래 미숙 가수 피리핀어. 내 너무따라 주세요.←Is this right!? Hmm... next time, try putting in english as well. I can understand it, but not quite. It's okay, Grammar is kinda weird in Korean although it is similar to Japanses, there are few different rules. Korean: KPOP 에 아니메 노래 미숙 가수 피리핀어. 내 너무따라 주세요. Romanized: KPOP eh a-ni-me no-rae ga-soo pi-ri-pin~uh. Nae nuh-moo-dda-ra ju-sae-yo. Word-by -word: KPOP of Anime song immature singer Filippino. yes very follow please. hmmm... Google Traslation: Anime song singers in KPOP piripineo immature. Please follow me too. O_o... I wonder how Google can translate it like that. My translation: (note: Koreans don't say Anime, they either say Mahn-hwa(Manga) or Enni(short for Animation) [] means it's one word together. sometimes, two or more words are expressed in one word in Korean. Korean: KPOP 에 있는 만화노래 부르는 필리핀 가수들은 미숙해요. 저도 따라와주세요. (Tweeter?) Romanized: KPOP eh it-neun man-hwa-no-rae boo-roo-neun ga-su-deul-eun mi-sook-hae-yo. jeo-do dda-ra-wa-joo-sae-yo. Word-by-word: KPOP of in [anime song] singing piripineo [singers are] immature. [Me also] [follow please]. Wow! Korean! Can I join? Yes! you can. Idk if Moho is still in this.... so I'll take over for now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conankoibito 21 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 Oh,thank you! I get it now!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-The Rising Angel- 48 Report post Posted December 18, 2011 I think I'm still lost somewhere behind.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted December 18, 2011 I think I'm still lost somewhere behind.... WEll... well, for basics... Consonants: ㄱ,ㄴ,ㄷ,ㄹ,ㅁ,ㅂ,ㅅ,ㅇ,ㅈ,ㅊ,ㅋ,ㅌ,ㅍ,ㅎ Vowels: ㅏ,ㅑ,ㅓ,ㅕ,ㅗ,ㅛ,ㅜ,ㅠ,ㅡ,ㅣ (There are more, but that is on the Combination Categry.) of course, like Japanese, a,e,i,o,u are all short vowels when romanized. I put it so that it is easier to see which letter makes which sound. (Caps) The ones in the Parenthesis are alternative pronounciation. ㄱ: Gi-uk (Ki-uk): G sound; sometimes K ㄴ: Ni-eun : N sound ㄷ: Di-geut : D Sound ㄹ: Ri-eul (Li-eul) : R or L sound ㅁ: Mi-eum : M Sound ㅂ: Bi-eup : B sound ㅅ: Si-ot (SHi-ot) : S sound; sometimes SH ㅇ: I-eung (EE-eung) : No sound, But there are rules for this consonant. ㅈ: Zi-eut (Ji-eut) : Z and J sound ㅊ: CHi-eut : CH sound ㅋ: Ki-euk : K sound as well as strong C. Sometimes Q. ㅌ: Ti-geut : T sound ㅍ: Pi-eup : P sound; sometimes Ph and F (But Korean does not have F or PH sound so we make P sound instead) ㅎ: Hi-eung : H sound ㅏ: A ㅑ: YA ㅓ: U ㅕ: YU ㅗ: O ㅛ: YO ㅜ: OO ㅠ: YOO ㅡ: EU ㅣ: I (EE) and the chart.... (oh my god this is going to kill me) 가 갸 거 겨 고 교 구 규 그 기 (Ga Gya Guh Gyuh Go Gyo Goo Gyoo Geu Gi) 나 냐 너 녀 노 뇨 누 뉴 느 니 (Na Nya Nuh Nyuh No Nyo Noo Nyoo Neu Ni) 다 댜 더 뎌 도 됴 두 듀 드 디 (Da Dya Duh Dyuh Do Dyo Doo Dyoo Deu Di) 라 랴 러 려 로 료 루 류 르 리 (Ra Rya Ruh Ryuh Ro Ryo Roo Ryoo Reu Ri) 마 먀 머 며 모 묘 무 뮤 므 미 (Ma Mya Muh Myuh Mo Myo Moo Myoo Meu Mi) 바 뱌 버 벼 보 뵤 부 뷰 브 비 (Ba Bya Buh Byuh Bo Byo Boo Byoo Beu Bi) 사 샤 서 셔 소 쇼 수 슈 스 시 (Sa Sya Suh Syuh So Syo Soo Syoo Seu Si) 아 야 어 여 오 요 우 유 으 이 (a ya uh yuh o yo oo yoo eu i) 자 쟈 저 져 조 죠 주 쥬 즈 지 (Za Zya Zuh Zyuh Zo Zyo Zoo Zyoo Zeu Zi) 차 챠 처 쳐 초 쵸 추 츄 츠 치 (Cha Chya Chuh Chyuh Cho Chyo Choo Chyoo Cheu Chi) 카 캬 커 켜 코 쿄 쿠 큐 크 키 (Ka Kya Kuh Kyuh Ko Kyo Koo Kyoo Keu Ki) 타 탸 터 텨 토 툐 투 튜 트 티 (Ta Tya Tuh Tyuh To Tyo Too Tyoo Teu Ti) 파 퍄 퍼 펴 포 표 푸 퓨 프 피 (Pa Pya Puh Pyuh Po Pyo Poo Pyoo Peu Pi) 하 햐 허 혀 호 효 후 휴 흐 히 (Ha Hya Huh Hyuh Ho Hyo Hoo Hyoo Heu Hi) These are the basics. Now Combinations.... that is going to make my fingers bleed. Try to get used to these first. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiKudo 5 Report post Posted June 10, 2012 looks like the thread already stopped. not that im now interested in hangeul. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted June 14, 2012 Actually, I'm working on it. This thread will resume some time in late July. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiKudo 5 Report post Posted June 15, 2012 Actually, I'm working on it. This thread will resume some time in late July. wow! thanks! I'll be waiting! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildheart888 170 Report post Posted June 16, 2012 \o/ \o/ \o/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Smiles 105 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 So many things to learn. I'm going to bring my Korean survival book to there next month. Or notebook. I always wanted go to Korea one day. I've notice they like to dress up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites