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[SPOILER DISCUSSION] File 1,061–File 1,066: The FBI Serial Murders

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The first case of the triple digit volume era!

in a technical sense, it was last case... but that one began in Volume 99 and ended in Volume 100, whereas this one will begin in Volume 100

 

Spoiler pics are now out:

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/6994241163

 

And here are translations, courtesy of Mera and Spimer (with additional props to Mycroft and BK 201):

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No break next week—we can expect 1,062 spoilers at this time next week.

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1,062 spoiler pics now out:

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7007357681

 

Here are translations of the pics, courtesy of Spimer:

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With more spoiler pics come more translations, once again courtesy of Spimer:

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And here are a few more details about the events of the file, translation courtesy of Spimer:

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Apologies for the double post.

 

Spoilers for 1,063 are now out—here is a chapter summary, translations courtesy of Sonokovid-Naughtyteen:

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And here are spoiler pics...

https://imgur.com/a/0xApJ0N

 

...And translations, courtesy of Spimer:

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4 week break upcoming—we can expect 1,064 spoilers around November 20th.

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  On 10/21/2020 at 6:09 PM, Balthazar Manfredie said:

thanks

i come sometimes 

shame that the monga has fallen from grace

 

The quality, huh?

The longer delays between files is better than Goshō making his health worse, but if you've got issues with the quality, I can't help you with that.

I wish I could just ask Goshō questions about narrative, pacing, etc., so veteran fans (who don't approve of the direction this series has taken this past decade) could at least have an answer as to why he's executed things like this (that isn't a generic answer like, "he's lazy because success and money", because an answer like that just isn't interesting to me).

 

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  On 10/21/2020 at 10:42 PM, DCUniverseAficionado said:

 

The quality, huh?

The longer delays between files is better than Goshō making his health worse, but if you've got issues with the quality, I can't help you with that.

I wish I could just ask Goshō questions about narrative, pacing, etc., so veteran fans (who don't approve of the direction this series has taken this past decade) could at least have an answer as to why he's executed things like this (that isn't a generic answer like, "he's lazy because success and money", because an answer like that just isn't interesting to me).

 

What you mean with "narrative and pacing"? Can u give some examples? I agree with you with the direction the series took after Kir introduction.

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  On 10/23/2020 at 10:10 PM, LaJota said:

What you mean with "narrative and pacing"? Can u give some examples? I agree with you with the direction the series took after Kir introduction.

you are a really old member

 

  On 10/21/2020 at 10:42 PM, DCUniverseAficionado said:

 

The quality, huh?

The longer delays between files is better than Goshō making his health worse, but if you've got issues with the quality, I can't help you with that.

I wish I could just ask Goshō questions about narrative, pacing, etc., so veteran fans (who don't approve of the direction this series has taken this past decade) could at least have an answer as to why he's executed things like this (that isn't a generic answer like, "he's lazy because success and money", because an answer like that just isn't interesting to me).

 

i wish gosho well, but he dragged this thing for way too long

i give naruto proops for knowing its way

dc should have known as well

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  On 10/23/2020 at 10:10 PM, LaJota said:

What you mean with "narrative and pacing"? Can u give some examples? I agree with you with the direction the series took after Kir introduction.

 

My opinion on the series is nowhere near as harsh as some—after all, I'm still invested in the characters and what's going to happen, even after all this slow pacing.

 

Well, the pacing is self-explanatory. The Bourbon arc took nearly seven years to complete, and it seems the Rum arc is going to beat even it out, in terms of length. Look at Kir—her appearance in this case is her first appearance since August 2009 (File 704).

 

As for the narrative, it suffers due to the pacing—the longer it takes between BO cases, it decreases focus and leaves the readers languishing. What was once a more tight and compact narrative has been diffused and spread out more and more as Shinichi/Conan has found himself facing problems caused by people who should be his allies against the BO (Rei/Bourbon for the Bourbon arc, and Mary for the Rum arc). It leaves fans wondering if Shinichi/Conan and the BO are actually going to face off against each other, and even if there is going to be impact and/or resolution with even these longed-for BO cases.

 

  On 10/23/2020 at 11:49 PM, Balthazar Manfredie said:

i wish gosho well, but he dragged this thing for way too long

i give naruto proops for knowing its way

dc should have known as well

 

Well, once the series is over, at least we can start giving out series read/watch order guides so newcomers can have a better experience without the years of uncertainty and lag.

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  On 10/24/2020 at 12:07 AM, DCUniverseAficionado said:

 

My opinion on the series is nowhere near as harsh as some—after all, I'm still invested in the characters and what's going to happen, even after all this slow pacing.

 

Well, the pacing is self-explanatory. The Bourbon arc took nearly seven years to complete, and it seems the Rum arc is going to beat even it out, in terms of length. Look at Kir—her appearance in this case is her first appearance since August 2009 (File 704).

 

As for the narrative, it suffers due to the pacing—the longer it takes between BO cases, it decreases focus and leaves the readers languishing. What was once a more tight and compact narrative has been diffused and spread out more and more as Shinichi/Conan has found himself facing problems caused by people who should be his allies against the BO (Rei/Bourbon for the Bourbon arc, and Mary for the Rum arc). It leaves fans wondering if Shinichi/Conan and the BO are actually going to face off against each other, and even if there is going to be impact and/or resolution with even these longed-for BO cases.

 

 

Well, once the series is over, at least we can start giving out series read/watch order guides so newcomers can have a better experience without the years of uncertainty and lag.

amen to that

any news when it will end

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  On 10/24/2020 at 12:09 AM, Balthazar Manfredie said:

amen to that

any news when it will end

 

I'm afraid all I have for you is speculation, so take it as you will (if at all).

 

For the Rum arc to end (relatively) soon—and by that, with this release schedule, it'll be in terms of months at least, certainly not weeks—we would need to be in a Clash of Red and Black situation right now, where even with multiple cases, the main conflict remains the same for each of them... ideally, this would end with the Kudōs, the FBI, the NPA finally unveiling and executing the plan they discussed back in File 1,012/Episode 954, and Rum's identity being revealed.

It's a shame, I don't think we're going to be that fortunate in terms of getting there quick—it likely isn't going to take only 2-3 cases after this one for Rum's identity to be revealed and for the Plan/Gambit pileup to come about and then reach a climax. Gosho will likely segment things as he's typically done, taking those 2-3 cases and putting 2-3 cases inbetween them. While this can lead to focus neat details and buildup, it slows things down—those who experience the series after us can just go "binge, binge, binge" and get the full package nice and quick, but for us? That's quite the ask of your fans to wait, and if they don't care for what's being focused on or are feeling the fatigue caused by the combo of length and repetition, you're going to get some bailing out, thus leaving fans like me to give massive caveats for them so they don't waste their time and instead focus on series that don't have these stumbling blocks.

 

If you had to ask me for a year count, I'd say... 1 year minimum, and 3 years maximum, and that's just for the Rum arc to end. If we jump right into the "Boss/Anokata" arc after that, you can have a smidge more of hope than usual. Who knows if he'll stick with this new 7 years per arc thing for it, too? Maybe it'll be shorter, a Clash of Red and Black-like arc unto itself... but in all probability, that's just wishful thinking. -_-

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I love this series, and I've enjoyed the recent trend Aoyama-sensei has gotten into where every case gives the reader at least one clue or piece of information that relates to the mystery of overall story. However, I must agree that the pacing was atrocious before he started this pattern. There were way too many filler cases that contributed nothing whatsoever to the main story; a little filler here and there is fine, but when 75% of what you're publishing in the series is filler, that's a bit much. My hope is that, after the five or six cases we had where each case dropped a plot hint for us, and now a case that directly relates to the Black Organization and the overall story, Aoyama-sensei will maintain his current pace so we'll get through the rest of the Rum Arc without any more filler. As for the direction the story has taken (when there is actually development of the story), I'm still largely enjoying it, but there are a few points I've struggled with and am concerned about moving forward. I too wish that I could have a sit-down with Aoyama-sensei, one writer to another, and have a nice chat about narrative flow, audience expectations (and when to subvert them), changing the status quo at times to keep things fresh, and things like that. I have the utmost respect for him, but it seems like there are a few areas that Aoyama-sensei struggles with (if he somehow reads this, please know that there is absolutely no sleight meant by this; we all have areas that we have difficulties with; it doesn't make him any less amazing).

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  On 10/25/2020 at 11:19 PM, LaJota said:

I dont know if its only me, but sometimes when i reading im thinking "Im reading because i want to reach the end" more than enjoying...

 

Expectation gets naturally generated by length, so by the time we do reach the end, that's going to be quite a bit of expectation. At the very least, you might be curious about how close (or not) the end of the series gets to meeting the years to decades of expectation... but, to boil it down, are you alright with waiting for an end that likely will disappoint you or underwhelm you? (and the odds of it doing so increasing again and again as more weeks/months/years go by) Was the journey of DC good enough (and/or it's high points, the peak of its quality) to justify waiting for an ending that's below the peak in quality of the series, below the potential of what it can achieve?

 

  On 10/26/2020 at 7:21 AM, AnimeOtakuDrew said:

I love this series, and I've enjoyed the recent trend Aoyama-sensei has gotten into where every case gives the reader at least one clue or piece of information that relates to the mystery of overall story. However, I must agree that the pacing was atrocious before he started this pattern. There were way too many filler cases that contributed nothing whatsoever to the main story; a little filler here and there is fine, but when 75% of what you're publishing in the series is filler, that's a bit much. My hope is that, after the five or six cases we had where each case dropped a plot hint for us, and now a case that directly relates to the Black Organization and the overall story, Aoyama-sensei will maintain his current pace so we'll get through the rest of the Rum Arc without any more filler. As for the direction the story has taken (when there is actually development of the story), I'm still largely enjoying it, but there are a few points I've struggled with and am concerned about moving forward. I too wish that I could have a sit-down with Aoyama-sensei, one writer to another, and have a nice chat about narrative flow, audience expectations (and when to subvert them), changing the status quo at times to keep things fresh, and things like that. I have the utmost respect for him, but it seems like there are a few areas that Aoyama-sensei struggles with (if he somehow reads this, please know that there is absolutely no sleight meant by this; we all have areas that we have difficulties with; it doesn't make him any less amazing).

 

Indeed, I've been having a good experience with that, as well.

 

And even higher if we're talking about only BO-centric cases.

Although, for me, filler would mean a case that I get absolutely nothing out of. I can only speak for myself, but I can't think of a manga case (at least since the File 1,000 case back in late 2017) that led to a reaction of, "well, that was an utter waste of time with no redeeming value(s)", from me. I think those who just aren't as invested in the characters (either as they used to be or at all) have more cause to label more cases as filler, and anticipate the BO moments as that rare consistency to look forward to (though that's for those who think the quality of even those hasn't gone down or hasn't gone down that much). Though that doesn't address those who label the state of affairs as 75% filler despite describing themselves as invested in the characters.

 

Any specifics?

For me, Hidemi/Rena/Kir being absent for so long would be one such point.

 

 

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Apologies for the double post.

 

1,064 spoiler pics are now out:

https://imgur.com/a/FjOQNlM

 

And here are text spoilers, courtesy of Mera Sasumi, Holmes, Kemo, Night Baron, Spimer and Nay.

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It makes me sad every time I see people talking about the manga quality getting so bad. I understand where they're coming from because you definitely can't deny that it hasn't dragged on long, but I still find myself looking forward to Conan chapters because I just feel sooo attached to the series. To be fair though, it took me years to catch up to the manga, so maybe I'll start feeling the burn out in some time? I hope not loll

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1,065 spoiler pics now out:

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7115689550?pn=1

 

Here are text spoilers, courtesy of BK 201, Mera, NightBaron and CG:

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And here are spoiler pic translations, with imgur link courtesy of Nike1421:

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Apologies for the double post.

 

Here's a full translation of 1,065 (but be advised—this translation is from Arabic to English, so there may be more errors/mistranslations than there would be in a Japanese to English translation):

 

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Apologies for the double post.

 

1,066 spoilers now out—open the spoiler tab at your own risk, major spoilers inbound.

 

Translations courtesy of Mera, Emma NY and Kemo (the latter translated info from Arabic site ConanGate).

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We can expect 1,067 spoilers around January 15th.

 

UPDATE:

1,066 spoiler pics (again, major spoilers, so don't click the link unless you're prepared):

https://imgur.com/a/Q3mf7ba

 

  On 12/1/2020 at 6:36 AM, Balthazar Manfredie said:

are things finally moving to an end 

 

Well...

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But looking at how Aoyama-sensei did in the past, we'll get "rest" chapters before another big thing happens again :lol:

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  On 12/5/2020 at 5:53 AM, DCUniverseAficionado said:

Apologies for the double post.

 

1,066 spoilers now out—open the spoiler tab at your own risk, major spoilers inbound.

 

Translations courtesy of Mera, Emma NY and Kemo (the latter translated info from Arabic site ConanGate).

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We can expect 1,067 spoilers around January 15th.

 

UPDATE:

1,066 spoiler pics (again, major spoilers, so don't click the link unless you're prepared):

https://imgur.com/a/Q3mf7ba

 

 

Well...

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i saw

made sense but the throwback was nice 

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