DCUniverseAficionado 252 Report post Posted April 8, 2023 RULES 1. Please use spoiler boxes until a full English translation is available. 2. NO DIRECT LINK to any Japanese scans (RAWs) or English scans (Japanese spoiler images are allowed as long as the amount and quality of which are very far away from a full scan). HOW TO USE A SPOILER BOX? Just simply type the following: [spoiler]Text you want to write[/spoiler] Spoilers for File 1,110 are now out: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8347569430 Spoiler Rachel/Rumi, Maria Higishio and Takuma Sakamoto appear. No break next week—we can expect File 1,111 spoilers around this time next week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCUniverseAficionado 252 Report post Posted April 14, 2023 Thanks for bearing with the double post. 1,111 spoilers are now out: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8359741865 Spoiler Yukiko appears as Fumiyo Edogawa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCUniverseAficionado 252 Report post Posted April 21, 2023 Thanks for bearing with the triple post. 1,112 spoilers are now out: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8373081049 DC will now go on break for 6 weeks until SS #28—we can expect 1,113 spoilers around June 2nd. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MeiTanteixX 184 Report post Posted May 21, 2023 File 1110-1112 Review There were multiple hints/developments regarding the main plot in this case. For starters, we had Gosho finally giving us a clue to the state of the shrunkies body when it comes to aging. Conan questioned why he didn't grow a centimeter every time his height got measured (File 1110), which Haibara deflected to answer by playing it down. This is as good of a confirmation as any that Conan, Haibara & Mary cannot age in their shrunken state like Vermouth, which not only implicates Vermouth further to have taken a variant of APTX in the past but also that the shrunkies have to take the antidote by the end of the series to regain a normal life back. Another part that caught my interest is the fact that Gosho used specific yen numbers in association with Haibara & Maria in the case, that had interesting potential to be chapter easter eggs that could be serving as foreshadowing/references to Haibara & Maria. Haibara was gonna pay 258 yen & Maria was gonna pay 302 yen. If you look up the which chapter these numbers correspond to, Haibara's is a reference to desperate revivial case, where she completed a prototype antidote for the first time and was questioned whether she was gonna take the antidote or not (File 258). Spoiler Maria's is a reference to Sunset mansion case, where the Boss of the organization Karasuma Renya was first introduced (File 302). Spoiler This is the second time Maria has been indirectly associated with the Boss of the black organization, seeing as her reintro (File 1006-1008) was the same case that revealed Karasuma Renya to be the Boss of the black organization. Spoiler It looks like it's by design that Gosho dropped these antidote easter eggs for Haibara, just after teasing the idea that Haibara can't age normally, as well as these continued Karasuma Renya easter eggs for Maria. It's hard to say in the current stage what future awaits Maria (especially if there is any connection to Karasuma), but there are handful of clues to that she is more than your average side character, just by the nature of her characterization (her name, english influence, being the next transfer student after Haibara). The following chapter potentially gave us the awaited answers to the mysterious Kohji case uploader. Yusaku reveals the suspicions that Wakasa was behind the Kohji case info uploads, and that she monitored the IP address of PC:s that entered the website, which in turn lead her to Conan who used Agasa's PC (File 1111). This part seemingly resolves the mystery behind the Kohji case uploader, however, it doesn't fully resolve/explain why Wakasa set her eyes on a random curious kid, or how she realized his true competence/value to the point of joining an elementary school. I think this part of Yusaku's suspicions could be complimented with the idea of Asaka having sources that directly confirmed Conan as a valuable asset/player against the organization (i.e Kir, if Asaka is a CIA agent). Yusaku then started to warn Yukiko about the possibility of Asaka being the type who would go through any lengths to achieve her goals (File 1111), which Gosho seems to wanna emphasize a lot to clarify her character type, as seen even with Rum's subordinates mentioning her potentially using teachers and kids as shields from bullets (File 1112). Yusaku then proceeded to analyze her motives for staying in Teitan Elementary for as long as she has, which was also questioned by Rum (File 1112), only to be revealed at the end of the resolution chapter that it'd because of her fixation on Haibara. Regarding Wakasa's fixation on Haibara, we do know from File 1097 that she blames Haibara's mother for her life getting messed up. Spoiler After the reveal of her relationship with Amanda, it's pretty much confirmed that her hatred towards Miyano Elena is due to her being the creator of APTX poison that killed her mother figure. We still don't truly know how exactly the Miyano parents died, apart from the surface-level "lab fire accident" explanation, so there is still room left there for a hidden backstory where Asaka was involved in their death (soon after Haibara's birth 18 years ago, which could have been 17 years ago after the Kohji case). In File 1070, we learned that Wakasa is aware of Sherry being the successor scientist behind the current APTX creations, and that she betrayed the organization. Spoiler However, Wakasa doesn't know if Haibara is continuing her research outside of the organization. It's therefore possible that her fixation on Haibara is due to her trying to find out if Haibara is creating more APTX poison or not, and whether she needs to do something about it (especially if she potentially did something to Haibara's parents in the past). The rest of the case had very heartwarming stuff with the kids and their parents (especially Haibara & Agasa), including a unique twist where Haibara ended up becoming the culprit of a relatively harmless act, which was refreshing. We also got to properly meet Maria's mother for the first time, who resembles her quite a lot (apart from having black hair like a full-blooded japanese). We have had clues to Maria's foreign blood through not only her foreign name and light hair colour but also the showcased english influence when her grandma called the bird toy "bird-chan" (File 1007). Spoiler The fact that her mother doesn't seem to have foregin features could be an indication that Maria inherited the foreign characteristics from her father. There is therefore room for the possibility that Maria's father is an important foreigner/non-full-japanese character in the main plot. In which case, a mysterious foreigner-looking character that comes to mind that could fit that role is the driver of "Vader" (respirator elder), who recently got a keyhole feature for Volume 103. Spoiler Even if Vader ends up being Haneda Yasuharu (Kohji's father), we have no guarantee that the driver is a good guy. For all that we know, the driver could be Maria's father who is connected/related to Karasuma Renya himself (which would explain the potential easter eggs to Karasuma in recent Maria cases). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCUniverseAficionado 252 Report post Posted May 24, 2023 On 5/21/2023 at 4:47 AM, MeiTanteixX said: The following chapter potentially gave us the awaited answers to the mysterious Kohji case uploader. Yusaku reveals the suspicions that Wakasa was behind the Kohji case info uploads, and that she monitored the IP address of PC:s that entered the website, which in turn lead her to Conan who used Agasa's PC (File 1111). This part seemingly resolves the mystery behind the Kohji case uploader, however, it doesn't fully resolve/explain why Wakasa set her eyes on a random curious kid, or how she realized his true competence/value to the point of joining an elementary school. I think this part of Yusaku's suspicions could be complimented with the idea of Asaka having sources that directly confirmed Conan as a valuable asset/player against the organization (i.e Kir, if Asaka is a CIA agent). Yusaku then started to warn Yukiko about the possibility of Asaka being the type who would go through any lengths to achieve her goals (File 1111), which Gosho seems to wanna emphasize a lot to clarify her character type, as seen even with Rum's subordinates mentioning her potentially using teachers and kids as shields from bullets (File 1112). Yusaku then proceeded to analyze her motives for staying in Teitan Elementary for as long as she has, which was also questioned by Rum (File 1112), only to be revealed at the end of the resolution chapter that it'd because of her fixation on Haibara. Regarding Wakasa's fixation on Haibara, we do know from File 1097 that she blames Haibara's mother for her life getting messed up. Reveal hidden contents After the reveal of her relationship with Amanda, it's pretty much confirmed that her hatred towards Miyano Elena is due to her being the creator of APTX poison that killed her mother figure. We still don't truly know how exactly the Miyano parents died, apart from the surface-level "lab fire accident" explanation, so there is still room left there for a hidden backstory where Asaka was involved in their death (soon after Haibara's birth 18 years ago, which could have been 17 years ago after the Kohji case). In File 1070, we learned that Wakasa is aware of Sherry being the successor scientist behind the current APTX creations, and that she betrayed the organization. Reveal hidden contents However, Wakasa doesn't know if Haibara is continuing her research outside of the organization. It's therefore possible that her fixation on Haibara is due to her trying to find out if Haibara is creating more APTX poison or not, and whether she needs to do something about it (especially if she potentially did something to Haibara's parents in the past). Spoiler Regarding Rachel/Rumi and Shiho/Ai... your train of thought prompts me to bring up a foreshadowing Gosho may have set up earlier in the Rum arc to hint to us about Rumi's motivations and intentions. It first hit me from reading a thread on Tieba Baidu... a thread concerning File 906–File 908/Episode 792–Episode 793 (the case where Rum's eye injury was revealed for the first time). The motive behind the death of that case... the victim, a screenwriter, killed herself and disguised it as a murder to expose a certain past killing committed by her and her former partners in crime, the three suspects, and get them arrested. She went so far because she felt remorse over a boy, Mamoru, who had been orphaned in one of her group's robberies. Even though they were strangers, she became close with the boy, talking to him often. In the end, Shinichi/Conan and Shiho/Ai have this exchange about the victim: File 908, Page 15, Panel 6 Shiho/Ai: "But don't you think it's cruel? Having Mamoru-kun be the witness in her suicide plot?" File 908, Page 15, Panel 7 Shinichi/Conan: "She was apparently being threatened... If she didn't want Mamoru-kun to find out she was part of that robber group, she should hand over the money and keep writing that story... Or they would kill Mamoru if she didn't rejoin the group, things like that..." File 908, Page 15, Panel 8 Shinichi/Conan: "That's why she made Mamoru-kun into a witness. Because she was sure the police would protect him if he were a witness... And then she intended to atone for her crimes by killing herself..." File 908, Page 16, Panel 1 Shinichi/Conan: "But that was a big mistake. After causing the death of Mamoru-kun's parents, she also made the one and only friend which Mamoru-kun had made, disappear with her own hands..." So your comment about Rachel/Rumi having some culpability in Atsushi and Elena's deaths really caught my attention. Rachel/Rumi trying to protect Shiho/Ai to atone for playing a role in their deaths, rather than vengefully stalking her... a ruthless avenger being willing to sacrifice themselves for the child of the one they blame for their suffering... unintentionally furthering the cycle of misery in a fatalistic sense of atonement... this would definitely fit in line with Gosho's subversion tendencies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MeiTanteixX 184 Report post Posted May 24, 2023 12 hours ago, DCUniverseAficionado said: Hide contents Regarding Rachel/Rumi and Shiho/Ai... your train of thought prompts me to bring up a foreshadowing Gosho may have set up earlier in the Rum arc to hint to us about Rumi's motivations and intentions. It first hit me from reading a thread on Tieba Baidu... a thread concerning File 906–File 908/Episode 792–Episode 793 (the case where Rum's eye injury was revealed for the first time). The motive behind the death of that case... the victim, a screenwriter, killed herself and disguised it as a murder to expose a certain past killing committed by her and her former partners in crime, the three suspects, and get them arrested. She went so far because she felt remorse over a boy, Mamoru, who had been orphaned in one of her group's robberies. Even though they were strangers, she became close with the boy, talking to him often. In the end, Shinichi/Conan and Shiho/Ai have this exchange about the victim: File 908, Page 15, Panel 6 Shiho/Ai: "But don't you think it's cruel? Having Mamoru-kun be the witness in her suicide plot?" File 908, Page 15, Panel 7 Shinichi/Conan: "She was apparently being threatened... If she didn't want Mamoru-kun to find out she was part of that robber group, she should hand over the money and keep writing that story... Or they would kill Mamoru if she didn't rejoin the group, things like that..." File 908, Page 15, Panel 8 Shinichi/Conan: "That's why she made Mamoru-kun into a witness. Because she was sure the police would protect him if he were a witness... And then she intended to atone for her crimes by killing herself..." File 908, Page 16, Panel 1 Shinichi/Conan: "But that was a big mistake. After causing the death of Mamoru-kun's parents, she also made the one and only friend which Mamoru-kun had made, disappear with her own hands..." So your comment about Rachel/Rumi having some culpability in Atsushi and Elena's deaths really caught my attention. Rachel/Rumi trying to protect Shiho/Ai to atone for playing a role in their deaths, rather than vengefully stalking her... a ruthless avenger being willing to sacrifice themselves for the child of the one they blame for their suffering... unintentionally furthering the cycle of misery in a fatalistic sense of atonement... this would definitely fit in line with Gosho's subversion tendencies. Spoiler Long time no talk I like your thought process on this, and indeed, it's in Gosho's character to pull this type of subversion. However, this very same twistful outcome could still be arrived at at the end of her character development journey, that we get to witness in-action through out the rest of the story (rather than her current mindset already being there). We have seen how she has been both ruthless/careless in her ways of accomplishing her goals (the risky reverse-psychology to save Ayumi, using Kobayashi as bait, potentially ready to use the teachers/kids as a shield), and that her head-space is in a state of hatred/pessimism (throwing away Ayumi's charm). I don't think we have any indications to her feeling any shred of remorse yet, since it seems she has let herself get consumed by her hatred. However we have indications to her starting to let her emotional guard down (as seen with her crying/emoting for Ayumi to the point of swaying Ai into liking her) after having spent some time with DB. I think these smaller moments (that are likely to accumulate through out the rest of her story) has potential to be what makes her also re-evaluate her sins and her views on the innocent Shiho and lead to a redeeming sacrifice to protect the Miyano parents' remaining child. I think this angle is well foreshadowed with the Uematsu (Teitan Elementary principal) panel in Wakasa's intro (966), where he gave the wisdom outloud for Wakasa to hear that everyone must atone for their sins (which portrays it more as a foreshadowing towards Wakasa's journey to learn and adopt that mindset, rather than her already being in that remorseful state). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCUniverseAficionado 252 Report post Posted May 24, 2023 16 hours ago, MeiTanteixX said: Hide contents Long time no talk I like your thought process on this, and indeed, it's in Gosho's character to pull this type of subversion. However, this very same twistful outcome could still be arrived at at the end of her character development journey, that we get to witness in-action through out the rest of the story (rather than her current mindset already being there). We have seen how she has been both ruthless/careless in her ways of accomplishing her goals (the risky reverse-psychology to save Ayumi, using Kobayashi as bait, potentially ready to use the teachers/kids as a shield), and that her head-space is in a state of hatred/pessimism (throwing away Ayumi's charm). I don't think we have any indications to her feeling any shred of remorse yet, since it seems she has let herself get consumed by her hatred. However we have indications to her starting to let her emotional guard down (as seen with her crying/emoting for Ayumi to the point of swaying Ai into liking her) after having spent some time with DB. I think these smaller moments (that are likely to accumulate through out the rest of her story) has potential to be what makes her also re-evaluate her sins and her views on the innocent Shiho and lead to a redeeming sacrifice to protect the Miyano parents' remaining child. I think this angle is well foreshadowed with the Uematsu (Teitan Elementary principal) panel in Wakasa's intro (966), where he gave the wisdom outloud for Wakasa to hear that everyone must atone for their sins (which portrays it more as a foreshadowing towards Wakasa's journey to learn and adopt that mindset, rather than her already being in that remorseful state). Spoiler Yeah, it's been awhile. How's it going? File 906–File 908/Episode 792–Episode 793 caught my attention in the sense of, "Ah, that's where Gosho's endgame will take us", rather than, "Oh, Rachel/Rumi must've grown as remorseful as quickly as the victim of this case, so Rachel's/Rumi's already looking to die for Shiho's/Ai's sake." So, when it comes to the progression that will lead to her potential attempt to atone with death? Absolutely, there's still room left. Given all her ruthless methods and actions, I don't think she came into Teitan Elementary already thinking that she had to make up for the death of Atsushi and Elena (if she did indeed have a role to play there). We're seeing that reflection and gradual, gradual thawing of the arctic rage she's felt all this time (and that dates back to even before Kōji and Amanda were murdered, considering what happened to her father), that will make her more and more willing to put the lives of others before the satiation of her cries for vengeance. The coming inflection point for her is yet another reason I'm eagerly awaiting the big confrontation case, for she is yet another big player with a potentially vital role in that case, depending on how Goshō chooses to play it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarieGuerra 4 Report post Posted August 28, 2023 On 5/21/2023 at 2:17 PM, MeiTanteixX said: File 1110-1112 Review There were multiple hints/developments regarding the main plot in this case. For starters, we had Gosho finally giving us a clue to the state of the shrunkies body when it comes to aging. Conan questioned why he didn't grow a centimeter every time his height got measured (File 1110), which Haibara deflected to answer by playing it down. This is as good of a confirmation as any that Conan, Haibara & Mary cannot age in their shrunken state like Vermouth, which not only implicates Vermouth further to have taken a variant of APTX in the past but also that the shrunkies have to take the antidote by the end of the series to regain a normal life back. Another part that caught my interest is the fact that Gosho used specific yen numbers in association with Haibara & Maria in the case, that had interesting potential to be chapter easter eggs that could be serving as foreshadowing/references to Haibara & Maria. Haibara was gonna pay 258 yen & Maria was gonna pay 302 yen. If you look up the which chapter these numbers correspond to, Haibara's is a reference to desperate revivial case, where she completed a prototype antidote for the first time and was questioned whether she was gonna take the antidote or not (File 258). Reveal hidden contents Maria's is a reference to Sunset mansion case, where the Boss of the organization Karasuma Renya was first introduced (File 302). Reveal hidden contents This is the second time Maria has been indirectly associated with the Boss of the black organization, seeing as her reintro (File 1006-1008) was the same case that revealed Karasuma Renya to be the Boss of the black organization. Reveal hidden contents It looks like it's by design that Gosho dropped these antidote easter eggs for Haibara, just after teasing the idea that Haibara can't age normally, as well as these continued Karasuma Renya easter eggs for Maria. It's hard to say in the current stage what future awaits Maria (especially if there is any connection to Karasuma), but there are handful of clues to that she is more than your average side character, just by the nature of her characterization (her name, english influence, being the next transfer student after Haibara). The following chapter potentially gave us the awaited answers to the mysterious Kohji case uploader. Yusaku reveals the suspicions that Wakasa was behind the Kohji case info uploads, and that she monitored the IP address of PC:s that entered the website, which in turn lead her to Conan who used Agasa's PC (File 1111). This part seemingly resolves the mystery behind the Kohji case uploader, however, it doesn't fully resolve/explain why Wakasa set her eyes on a random curious kid, or how she realized his true competence/value to the point of joining an elementary school. I think this part of Yusaku's suspicions could be complimented with the idea of Asaka having sources that directly confirmed Conan as a valuable asset/player against the organization (i.e Kir, if Asaka is a CIA agent). Yusaku then started to warn Yukiko about the possibility of Asaka being the type who would go through any lengths to achieve her goals (File 1111), which Gosho seems to wanna emphasize a lot to clarify her character type, as seen even with Rum's subordinates mentioning her potentially using teachers and kids as shields from bullets (File 1112). Yusaku then proceeded to analyze her motives for staying in Teitan Elementary for as long as she has, which was also questioned by Rum (File 1112), only to be revealed at the end of the resolution chapter that it'd because of her fixation on Haibara. Regarding Wakasa's fixation on Haibara, we do know from File 1097 that she blames Haibara's mother for her life getting messed up. Reveal hidden contents After the reveal of her relationship with Amanda, it's pretty much confirmed that her hatred towards Miyano Elena is due to her being the creator of APTX poison that killed her mother figure. We still don't truly know how exactly the Miyano parents died, apart from the surface-level "lab fire accident" explanation, so there is still room left there for a hidden backstory where Asaka was involved in their death (soon after Haibara's birth 18 years ago, which could have been 17 years ago after the Kohji case). In File 1070, we learned that Wakasa is aware of Sherry being the successor scientist behind the current APTX creations, and that she betrayed the organization. Spoiler Thanks for sharing. I am waiting for the next chapter. If you need assistance with college writing, check out this helpful https://studyclerk.com/custom-research-paper website. They have custom research paper writers who can help you complete your assignments quickly and effectively. However, Wakasa doesn't know if Haibara is continuing her research outside of the organization. It's therefore possible that her fixation on Haibara is due to her trying to find out if Haibara is creating more APTX poison or not, and whether she needs to do something about it (especially if she potentially did something to Haibara's parents in the past). The rest of the case had very heartwarming stuff with the kids and their parents (especially Haibara & Agasa), including a unique twist where Haibara ended up becoming the culprit of a relatively harmless act, which was refreshing. We also got to properly meet Maria's mother for the first time, who resembles her quite a lot (apart from having black hair like a full-blooded japanese). We have had clues to Maria's foreign blood through not only her foreign name and light hair colour but also the showcased english influence when her grandma called the bird toy "bird-chan" (File 1007). Reveal hidden contents The fact that her mother doesn't seem to have foregin features could be an indication that Maria inherited the foreign characteristics from her father. There is therefore room for the possibility that Maria's father is an important foreigner/non-full-japanese character in the main plot. In which case, a mysterious foreigner-looking character that comes to mind that could fit that role is the driver of "Vader" (respirator elder), who recently got a keyhole feature for Volume 103. Reveal hidden contents Even if Vader ends up being Haneda Yasuharu (Kohji's father), we have no guarantee that the driver is a good guy. For all that we know, the driver could be Maria's father who is connected/related to Karasuma Renya himself (which would explain the potential easter eggs to Karasuma in recent Maria cases). Thanks for sharing. I am waiting for next chapter :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
