Kogoro Copycat (787-789?)

[Chekhov MacGuffin 1089]

Don't forget to give your theories about how Conan knows it was a murder.

I wonder if Megure/whatever officers show up will play along?

I have been super busy lately, so I promise to say something about the case later.

[hopes 237]

Uhm... The man has blood on his wrist somehow. He would get blood there by slicing his neck... (At least I don't think so...) And it appears he has blood coming out of his mouth. For some reason. Also, the key doesn't have any blood on it whatsoever... Just a few things I noticed.

[Dean Moriarty 1]

I’m pretty new to this stuff, so I don’t know if this is any good... but here are some thoughts:

I think the blood on the wrist makes sense, if he slit his throat from left to right. Actually if you cut some of the carotid artieres I’d have assumed there was more blood splashing around.

Then the way he holds the knife is a bit odd, how do you cut your throat with the blade pointing downwards? But that could be coincidental.

Also the blood flow is pretty much going to his right side while he’s sitting rather straight, so maybe he was moved.

And the blood from his mouth... is that something that could happen, when you cut your throat?

[Detective Kudo 28]

Conan knows it was a murder:

1 the knife is facing the wrong direction to cut his own throat

2 He was sitting in an unusual position to kill himself using a knife(it looked uncomfortable), between two rooms

3. i would also expect a lot more blood around the body when he cut the neck artery. There is a lot of hot blood that would skew when cut. I think he was possibly moved and placed there

oh yea, i almost forgot to say the key was just in to much of a conspicuous place

[Balthazar Manfredie 226]

The knife is facing the wrong direction and i think the body was brought to that room and the key was left there to make it look like suicide, but the position of the knife proves it was not. A locked room murder case.

[justwantanaccount 125]

Since Conan knew not only that the case was a murder, he knew that the culprit was one of the three people who broke into the room, so my bet is that the blood-less key is the main basis of Conan's judgement. *Crosses fingers*

[Black Demon 466]

The fake Kogoro will be busted for sure when the police arrive.

Since Conan has already known that the culprit is among those three people, I doubt that it would turn out to be the granny or the imposter.

[Balthazar Manfredie 226]

it would be kinda funny if the police plays along with that

maybe conan will put this guy to sleep to, like with kogoro

[Stopwatch 36]

So, as this is an obvious set up for a suspicion arc () I think the case will be quite simple and the fun bit will be watching how Conan solves it. I'm not sure if the police will be called or not, someone suggested calling them when they found the body, but the landlady then said about Impostorou so...I don't think the police will be called or if they are I think it'll probably be Takagi and Satou (because I doubt Megure would go along with the imposter) which would be a nice change...

Case wise I can't really add on that much to what everyone else has been saying other than I think that the door will end up being a clue, it was commented on an awful lot and, as I previously said, I think this will be a simple case so there probably wont be any red herrings...

[Akazora 293]

As for why it's a murder, everyone had already mentioned the main things I noticed: the key, the knife angle, etc. No need for me to elaborate any more.

[Stopwatch 36]

So...spoilers are out, Conan48:69 (aka: Conan#1 from the DCTP cbox) posted them on DCTP.

コナン 「本物の眠りの小五郎」

高木と佐藤が来る。佐藤「亡くなったのは傳川源佑さん44歳…10年以上住んでて…仕事は土木作業員…で合ってます？」と大家に聞く

桐谷がはいと答え、主人に聞けば色々話せるが、私が正式に引き継いだのは去年からですので…

高木が「本当なんですか？目覚ましが止まなくて…この３人が部屋に押し入ったって…」

高木に説明する３人。大家さん家にいて窓越しに騒ぎが見えたから来たとコナンが話し

蘭が大家さんと知り合いで…と話す。佐藤「まぁ、蘭ちゃんとコナン君はいいとして…あなた…誰？」と恩田に詰め寄る

桐谷「あなた！刑事なのに毛利名探偵をしらないの！？（佐藤が知ってますけど…と言い）娘さんからも言っておやりなさい！！」

蘭「父がいつもお世話になってます！」 佐藤「どゆ事？」

蘭が２人に説明し、邪魔さえしなければそーゆー事にしてあげると佐藤

３人に佐藤「扉を破ったのはやりすぎじゃない！毛利探偵もそう思いますよね？」

兵頭「お互い様だよ！部屋に帰ると傳川に扉が壊されてて…電話が鳴り止まないから電話線を抜いたって貼り紙してあった事もあった」

坂内「私は逆に外からガムテで扉を目貼りされた、臭いからふさいだって言われたのよ！？」

石亀「儂は窓ガラスを割られた…以前、孫が来たときに野球ボールで傳川さんの部屋の窓を割ったのを恨んでたらしく…」

佐藤「大家さんに言ったの？」 ３人「前の大家には…こっちにも非はなくはないから示談に…あの人普段は静かに暮らしてた…

でも昨夜のTVの音はひどかったわ！急にでけぇ音で、おまけにザッピングまで！それで今日のように扉を叩き音を下げてと言った」

佐藤「それで？きいてくれたの？」 ３人「ええ…切ってくれたよ…無言じゃったがな…」

佐藤「でも、何で急にそんな事…」 ３人「俺らがもういねぇと思ったんじゃ…ワシら３人、丁度出かける所じゃったから…」

高木に聞かれ、３人で温泉旅館に行ったと言う

３人「んで、ついさっき帰って来たら時計のベルが鳴ってて…しばらく鳴り止まないから…また３人で文句言いに行った！」

佐藤に出かけた時間、他の住人を聞かれ、6時くらい、他の住人はいないと話す

佐藤「つまり３人が出かけた後…アパートには傳川さんしかいなかった…死亡推定時刻は、昨日の夕方5時から夜7時…」

高木「３人の証言だと、6時には生きてたようですし…」

佐藤「部屋の鍵は遺体のそば…手には血まみれの包丁…この状況からすると、３人が出かけた6時から7時に自分の首を切ったようね…」

高木「ええ…まだ遺書は見つかってませんが自殺としか…」

コナン「自殺じゃないと思うよ…死神さんの仕業じゃないかなぁ？だってこの鍵…血の上にあるのに血が付いてないでしょ？」

佐藤「そうだけど…てっきり　部屋に押し入った時に落ちてた鍵を誰かが蹴飛ばしてそこに転がったとんだと…」

コナン「でもボク…部屋に来た時鍵に触っちゃったけど少し温かかったよ？きっと死神さんはおじさんを死なせて連れ帰ろうとしたけど…

３人が入って来たから…ビックリして握ってた鍵を落としちゃったんだよ！

でも変だぞ？死神さんの手は冷たいって感じなのに、何で温かかったんだ？」

佐藤「多分…誰かが手の中に忍ばせてた鍵を…部屋に入ると同時に遺体のそばに投げ…部屋が密室だったと見せかけた…

扉を破った３人の誰かがね！殺した後、部屋を密室にして出かければ完璧なアリバイが作れると思ったのかしら？」

TVの音、ザッピングを突っ込まれ佐藤「TVやDVDレコーダーでも使った。視聴予約してれば勝手につけれるし…

数台の機械を使えばザッピングしてるように聞こえるんじゃ…」

コナン「無理だと思うよ…この部屋…TVが1台あるだけ…」『あるのは寝床の横の目覚まし時計と…2台の扇風機ぐらいか…』（部屋の様子が上から描かれてる）

高木が扇風機が1台倒れてると言い３人「俺が引っかけた、ベルを止めようと薄暗い部屋に入ってったから

私なんて死体の足につまずきヒジを擦り剥いた！ワシが電灯のヒモを引いて明かりをつけたらこの有様だった」

TVをつけ音にビビる佐藤。 コナン『妙だな…部屋は結構片付いてるのに…洗濯物は放置してあるし

洗濯バサミも床に散らばってる…布団の上に置かれた新聞チラシも不自然だ…それにTVは1台なのに、

何でリモコンが２つあるんだ？こっちは万能型だから…リモコンを無くして後で元のリモコンが見つかったとか…

ん？リモコンの脇に飛沫血痕が…しかも少し擦れてる…まさか…これって…』とカーテンを開けて隣の大家さんの部屋を見る

もう部屋に戻っていいかと言う３人に桐谷が「いい加減にしなさい」と怒り、佐藤に名探偵の意見をなぜ聞かないの！？

恩田「待ってよお母さん…」 蘭、コナン「え？」『お母さん？』

桐谷「？」 恩田「あ、いやいやおばあさん…」

コナンと蘭が大家さんの声は大きいと話し、でもそれって耳が遠くなるから…大家さんは普通に聞こえてる。コナン「……」

大家の携帯が鳴り、出るがつながらない。 コナンがメールじゃない？と借り操作する

コナン「大家さんも昔ならピアノの鍵盤みたいに覚えられたと思うよ…」

大家「そうねぇ…」 蘭『ピアノ？』 孫娘からのメールを見るコナン、蘭 （九州に住んでる。旦那の仕事で来月行くねと子供と一緒の写メ）

蘭『――って事は、孫娘が彼女っていうのは…真っ赤なウソ…じゃあ何なのよ？この人…』

コナンが大家に携帯を渡し、ザッピング事件の時間を聞いて、夕暮れ時と答える大家

コナン「チャンネルがパパパって変わって、しばらく止まってまたパパパって変わってた？」

大家「そうそう。悪い気が入って来てると思って…窓のカーテンを閉めたら止まった…」

コナン『やっぱり…トリックは読めた！そしてやったのは恐らくあの人…でも証拠がない…

この推理が正しければ、犯人は今も証拠を持ってるはず…』

右手にゴムヒモ？を巻いてる兵頭。首に湿布を貼ってる石亀。右手の人差し指に絆創膏を巻いてる坂内を見てピンとくる？コナン

坂内が携帯で毛利の画像を検索し２人に見せ、３人で恩田に推理してもらおう、的外れな推理なら帰ると恩田に詰め寄る

大家「そうね…全て毛利探偵に委ねましょう！」 恩田「あ、いや…いやいやいや…」

コナン「大丈夫…」『本物の眠りの小五郎が…ついてるからさ！』

They're quite long so hopefully this chapter will be interesting...

I'm really glad it is Satou and Takagi coming, it's been so long since we've seen Satou...

[justwantanaccount 125]

Cool! Fujiwara at DCTP already translated the 2chan spoilers! Perfect, school just started for me so I don't have as much time anymore.

YEAH I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE KEY! *dances*

[AJ M. 204]

I bet the police will come and would have to go long with the fake kogoro just for the old lady's sake. Idk who conan will use to make a deduction, but he might probably just give out hints.

[tengaku squared 291]

This is gonna be interesting, at least.

[Stopwatch 36]

The chinese file is out and it looks very interesting.

Satou's 'oi oi' faces are awesome and...at the end, it looks like the way Conan will reveal his deduction...if we put it together with the written spoilers then it seems he'll either 'call Shinichi' again, though this is unlikely as he's no way to explain it...or he's gonna reveal it himself, the idiot <3, though I'm probably thinking a bit too hopefully here. Takagi also looks surprisingly serious in places, it's good to see him away from Megure...

[Detective Kudo 28]

i wonder how will conan explain this case to everyone. It looks like he dosn't have his watch or bowtie. He might just explain it all and say "...at least what Shinichi said."

[hopes 237]

Hm... I just read the new file. Interesting...

I think it's the old man. He and the woman were both squeezing their fists together in the first file, but... I dunno. Also, Junji is suspicious. He said he tripped over the fan in the dark. The fan is far away from the main entrance. He would've stumbled over the body to get over there... And the woman as well. She claims she tripped over the body in the dark... The victim's foot isn't actually out though... And why would she go through the trouble of looking up Kogoro just to get out of the case? And I think the TV was on loud because... Somehow, I think that the old woman needed to hear the TV. Maybe she was tricked into going into the wrong room...? Not sure.

*sigh* They're all suspicious... This is why I don't usually have a guess....

[Akazora 293]

I just read the new chapter, and I don't really know who the culprit could be at this point. The fake Mouri Kogoro is acting really suspicious, but I don't think he has much to do with the case. I think he has something to do with something else... Something deeper... But again, I could be thinking to much. He's probably not going to be a recurring character, though it would be funny if he did.

[Chekhov MacGuffin 1089]

I hope I have time to look at the file before spoilers for the resolution hits, much less solve it.

[Black Demon 466]

Anyway, does anyone think that Conan is going to tranquilize the imposter ?

[Tsukiko 73]

Anyway, does anyone think that Conan is going to tranquilize the imposter ?

I don't think so. I assume that Conan will call with Kogoro's voice and solve the case. Like he did with Shinichi's voice when Sera appeared for the first time.

[Balthazar Manfredie 226]

Bannai Kumi or Hyoudou Junji, the blood on the remote seems to be left from a right handed person. Ishigame Ken is left i think that this leaves those 2 as suspects.

Now this fake kogoro is interesting

[moroboshi dai 11]

i tough about the tranquilizer but the others seen to know he's not the real kogoro so i don't think it will be that

[Tsukiko 73]

I have no idea who is the culprit but I'm suspicioning that young woman. Actually I'm not interested in this murder very much. I wanna know more about this fake Kogoro.

[moroboshi dai 11]

i suspect the fake kogoro as culprit beside he could zap from the landlady house to change the chanel and sound while investigating and he might started this as a part of the plan to murder that dude and maybe that fake kogoro resided there once