[SPOILER DISCUSSION] File 818-824 (Mystery Train)

[Black Demon 466]

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4. NO DIRECT LINK to Original Japanese scans (RAWs) or to ANY English manga scan because we don't want to have any problem with lawyers. (Japanese spoiler pictures are allowed as long as the amount and quality of which are very very far away from a full scan, like the ones we usually have).

Q&A:

1. Why is this whole thing necessary ?

A: Click here.

2. Why do I still have to use Spoiler boxes here ?

A: In case some member (who only follows the English files) get confused, misclick, or just simply get in the wrong thread... etc., this rule is made NOT to let spoilers get revealed to them. And since this is new, people are not used to it yet, therefore confusions are unavoidable.

3. How do I use Spoiler boxes anyway ?

A: Just simply type the following:

[spoiler]Text you want to write[/spoiler]

Or more manually: Click "Other styles" > Choose "Spoiler" > Enter texts > Click "Add".

4. If the spoiler is not obvious enough to viewers (e.g. one must click a link in order to see it), do I have to use Spoiler boxes ?

A: No, using link addresses is also a hiding method. Again the purpose of this is just to protect the spoilers and info. from being viewed by members who do not want to see them (but get in here by accident). However, you should STATE CLEARLY that it's a spoiler, just to make sure.

5. Can I join the discussion in the other thread as well ?

A: Of course you can. HOWEVER, as mentioned in the rules above, you MUST NOT reveal, give hints or talk about ANYTHING that spoils.

6. Who are you anyway ? Why do we have to follow YOUR rules ?

A: Not mine. Chek suggested that it should be this way. Also, the person who create the threads must write the rules clearly on the very first post from now on, whether they want it or not; this applies to every member (not only me).

ANYWAY, everyone should read this whole post carefully before posting or viewing anything. If you are mistaken for not paying attention to it, the creator of the thread, the moderators and every other forum members will NOT take any responsibility.

[Black Demon 466]

818 spoilers (by Tuntun):

http://img23.imageha...9H1O1A7_001.jpg

http://img44.imageha...7K3SBOC_002.jpg

http://img23.imageha...X729G5V_003.jpg

http://img22.imageha...P2OTIR3_004.jpg

http://img22.imageha...7QUE1DU_005.jpg

EDIT: Another one http://img25.imageha...ZQJIIDV_001.jpg

Gin using smartphone too (looks like iPhone) ? What's with Scar Akai's new hat ?? Where is Vermouth living ???

[User 4869 100]

Thank for the spoiler. I gonna just repost what I post at DCTP.

Amuro appear as Scar Akai and triggered Ai 's sense, Sera: not. (S.A. Conveniently change his hat, Chek gonna mad at this.)

Kid involvement. May be Gosho throw him in to confuse readers. "Who is who?"

BO appear, likely the conclusion of Bourbon arc.

[Charala97 23]

Thanks for all the spoilers! Whoa Whoa the BO, Vermouth,Scar Akai (Amuro), Sera! The only berson left to join the party is Okiya...

Use spoiler tags please or you will start getting warn points.

[Belmot 6]

Omg Vermouth Vermouth <3333333 My fav Character!

I really wanted Ai to remain Shino for a little while Longer ):

Use spoiler tags please or you will start getting warn points.

[D.ai-kun 1]

Omg Vermouth Vermouth <3333333 My fav Character!

I really wanted Ai to remain Shino for a little while Longer ):

Ai is (still) ill. so maybe she will use the antidote again in order the bo members (like gin, vodka etc.)dont notice that she is in a childbody. i hope she takes it ( again)! and gin finally appears! i missed him xD

[Miss Smiles 105]

*screaming, but calm down* I love the images. <3

[D.ai-kun 1]

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[angelranchan 56]

wow! all of my fav characters are here~ vermouth~ <3

i hope bourbon arc comes to an end......

Use spoiler tags please or you will start getting warn points.

[Belmot 6]

Anyone else hoping that Jodie and the FBI show up?

[Wakarimashita 137]

Anyone else hoping that Jodie and the FBI show up?

No, there are enough characters involved as it is.

[Belmot 6]

No, there are enough characters involved as it is.

I hope they show up, I love Jodie

[Black Demon 466]

818 Chinese is out!

[Belmot 6]

Vermouth <33333 I see Sera gets aboard thanks to Ran and Sonoko. Sonoko talking about her love for Kid.Ai still sick, and the detective Boys. Bad enough Ran and Kogoro are there. Seems like a bad place to have a showdown, but I can't wait

[Uncle Sporkums 123]

StopWatch mentioned that this Scar Akai could be the actual Akai in disguise which explains the different clothes and Scar. This should be exciting.

[Miss Smiles 105]

Those interactions remind me of original movie, 'Departed', Asian's version. Sooner or later in future it's either Akai pointing gun at Bourbon. It's a conjecture.

Use spoiler tags please or you will start getting warn points.

[Glass Heart 34]

818 spoilers (by Tuntun):

http://img23.imageha...9H1O1A7_001.jpg

http://img44.imageha...7K3SBOC_002.jpg

http://img23.imageha...X729G5V_003.jpg

http://img22.imageha...P2OTIR3_004.jpg

http://img22.imageha...7QUE1DU_005.jpg

EDIT: Another one http://img25.imageha...ZQJIIDV_001.jpg

Gin using smartphone too (looks like iPhone) ? What's with Scar Akai's new hat ?? Where is Vermouth living ???

Thanks for the preview. It's very interesting.

So, my guesses on how I interpret this new elements according to my theory on Bourbon's identity:

As I said in the Bourbon topic, I think both Masumi and Tooru have in fact black auras and that Gosho Aoyama tries to hide the true Bourbon until the end by hiding his aura from Haibara.

In this chapter, something happens that I thought wouldn't be coming so soon, but I think I understand what Aoyama is trying to do and it's clever.

Since the last reunion between the three suspects, we know for sure that either Masumi or Tooru has a black aura. The logical question is which one of them.

This chapter answers the question: Ai Haibara encounters Masumi Sera and doesn't sense anything. So it seems like Masumi isn't Bourbon after all.

On the other hand, she also meets Scar Akai and she definitely senses a black aura coming from him. Considering the fact that Scar Akai is very likely Amuro, we can easily take it as a confirmation that Amuro is Bourbon, now waiting for the confirmation that Amuro is indeed under the Scar Akai disguise.

That's a pretty good trick, I haven't seen this one coming.

Now, as I said, I think the trick is that BOTH Masumi and Amuro have in fact black auras considering what happened during the previous showdown. So the reason for Haibara not sensing Masumi/Bourbon's aura is either because I'm wrong on the whole thing, or because she might be able to hide it, like Subaru does (this element is canon, so it's not just mere speculation).

That way, Tooru Amuro may appear to be the main suspect while all the attention of the reader is derived from the Masumi Sera character, which is likely the true Bourbon if I'm correct.

[Miss Smiles 105]

Okay, I'm going to say something, when this file translated it will caught every detectives including detective Kudo up for challenge, this is must-not-to-be-miss.

[75aichan 49]

Ai is (still) ill. so maybe she will use the antidote again in order the bo members (like gin, vodka etc.)dont notice that she is in a childbody. i hope she takes it ( again)! and gin finally appears! i missed him xD

I hope so!!!It would be nice to see Shiho facing Scar Akai^^

I missed Gin as well,I would love him to be on the train...

Can somebody translate the dialogue between Gin and Vermouth?

[Chekhov MacGuffin 1089]

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[xSherry 27]

I hope so!!!It would be nice to see Shiho facing Scar Akai^^

I missed Gin as well,I would love him to be on the train...

Can somebody translate the dialogue between Gin and Vermouth?

I also hope Ai will take the antidote again!! As I wrote in '815-817' I don't think Vermouth will do anything because she told she'd give up on Sherry and she somehow likes Conan so I think she'll just check wether Bourbon does his job.. I also hope Okiya will be there to help Shiho and Conan, that would be really nice.. And as Belmot mentioned maybe Kid will be there too, but I don't really think he will fight against B.O as he isn't really involved, even if it would be awesome.. Well what I hope is Okiya coming up and Shiho taking the antidote!! Seems like there will be a huge showdown, I'm really looking forward to the next chapter!

[75aichan 49]

I also hope Ai will take the antidote again!! As I wrote in '815-817' I don't think Vermouth will do anything because she told she'd give up on Sherry and she somehow likes Conan so I think she'll just check wether Bourbon does his job.. I also hope Okiya will be there to help Shiho and Conan, that would be really nice.. And as Belmot mentioned maybe Kid will be there too, but I don't really think he will fight against B.O as he isn't really involved, even if it would be awesome.. Well what I hope is Okiya coming up and Shiho taking the antidote!! Seems like there will be a huge showdown, I'm really looking forward to the next chapter!

Yeah I want to see Okiya!!!I can't believe he's not in this file...Maybe he's on the train and will appear when Ai will be in danger.

I really don't think Kid will be there,considering that Sonoko said the train would be running next month with some jewel on,so I guess Kid will appear in the case after this one.

I really hope this case will be long(5 or 6 files)^^

[Belmot 6]

I just pray that before all this is over, Jodie and the FBI make a appearance

[xSherry 27]

Yeah I want to see Okiya!!!I can't believe he's not in this file...Maybe he's on the train and will appear when Ai will be in danger.

I really don't think Kid will be there,considering that Sonoko said the train would be running next month with some jewel on,so I guess Kid will appear in the case after this one.

I really hope this case will be long(5 or 6 files)^^

Would be awesome if Okiya'd appear in the last minute to save Ai!!.. To Kid.. Well I haven't read any translations yet and I don't speak Chinese so I didn't know about that I just saw the pics ^^ I'm pretty sure this case will be long, hope it's gonna be awesome!..

[TML 18]

Whoa! I never imagined that the producers chose not to document the details of how Shiho re-shrank into Ai. If I were in charge, I would have documented this by making her start her shrinking motion in front of people other than her confidants, and then have her confidants (i.e. Conan, Dr. Agasa, etc.) try to pull her away from everyone else before she completes her shrinking motion.