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In the Clash of Red and Black episodes agent Camel was supposedly "died" in front of the organization when they retrieved Kir. Yet a bit later he was involved in the Shirumpri case and the organization knew but they weren't suspicious of how he faked his death?

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There are some problems however:

 

1. The Black Organization never had a good look at the driver that was "taking Kir away".

 

I don't remember if they drew it properly in the anime, but in the original manga version, Camel's hair obscured most of his face, as seen from the BOs' standing position. No actually, that was what we see via the telescope on Chianti's rifle, so the actual view must have been even more vague (File 603, Page 13).

 

While earlier Vodka was close enough to see Camel's face during the chase, however, the side windows were tinted so that people couldn't see what's inside (File 603, Page 5). From Vodka's position, he probably could vaguely see Camel's shadow, but not his face. This explains why they had to use the thermal scanning devices to count the number of people in the first place. (The reason Gosho drew Camel's face was to show his expression, and also to remind the reader which car he's in, but technically it would be impossible from Vodka's point of view).

 

As a conclusion, the BO most likely wouldn't recognize Camel a second time even if they were given his picture. I can't tell whether they would recognize him when meeting him face-to-face, but none of the presented BOs has seen him again ever since the explosion. 

 

2. The Black Organization didn't know the name of the "exploded" driver.

 

Therefore, even if their spying lackeys heard that some FBI agent was involved in a murder case, and worse, they knew that he's called "Camel", the BO wasn't able to match this with the driver that died earlier since his name was unknown to them. 

 

3. The BO never had the chance to re-check the scene, not that it would be really necessary to them.

 

The former is because the police would most likely show up and take care of the explosion not much later. The latter is because, unlike Akai, Camel (as a generic driver) is just like any other FBI agent that would not cause much damage to them even if alive. Therefore, they wouldn't risk exposing themselves just for a confirmation of his death. Not to mention that the chance of someone surviving such an explosion is really really low (in fact, impossible in real life).

 

And no, unlike Akai's situation again, this incident is not a solid indication of Kir's loyalty, therefore a death confirmation was not really necessary. From the BO's point of view, whether this "driver" was really dead or not wasn't important, because the "fake-death plan" didn't necessarily involve Kir (yes, we know she's definitely involved, but we're talking about the BO's perspective here). She did what she had to do as a loyal BO member (knocking him off, giving the BO the chance to rescue her, not objecting when they're about to kill him). There's nothing suspicious about that. Whether he's only pretending to be unconscious or not had nothing to do with her, she might not know about it (again, we all know she didn't hit him hard enough so he still remained consciousness, but the BO couldn't deduce that). Therefore, this incident couldn't certainly tell them whether she's loyal or not, so a re-check wasn't needed.     

 

4. Bourbon was the only one to have a good look at Camel after the incident...

 

However, he wasn't present during the car chase so he wouldn't know that Camel was the driver. He couldn't get much description from other agents either since like explained above, they neither know his appearance nor his name, so he also wasn't able to match the information. I don't know how Bourbon figured out that Camel was an FBI agent in the first place, but he might have monitored Jodie first, and then located other agents close to her.

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There are some problems however:

 

1. The Black Organization never had a good look at the driver that was "taking Kir away".

 

I don't remember if they drew it properly in the anime, but in the original manga version, Camel's hair obscured most of his face, as seen from the BOs' standing position. No actually, that was what we see via the telescope on Chianti's rifle, so the actual view must have been even more vague (File 603, Page 13).

 

While earlier Vodka was close enough to see Camel's face during the chase, however, the side windows were tinted so that people couldn't see what's inside (File 603, Page 5). From Vodka's position, he probably could vaguely see Camel's shadow, but not his face. This explains why they had to use the thermal scanning devices to count the number of people in the first place. (The reason Gosho drew Camel's face was to show his expression, and also to remind the reader which car he's in, but technically it would be impossible from Vodka's point of view).

 

As a conclusion, the BO most likely wouldn't recognize Camel a second time even if they were given his picture. I can't tell whether they would recognize him when meeting him face-to-face, but none of the presented BOs has seen him again ever since the explosion. 

 

2. The Black Organization didn't know the name of the "exploded" driver.

 

Therefore, even if their spying lackeys heard that some FBI agent was involved in a murder case, and worse, they knew that he's called "Camel", the BO wasn't able to match this with the driver that died earlier since his name was unknown to them. 

 

3. The BO never had the chance to re-check the scene, not that it would be really necessary to them.

 

The former is because the police would most likely show up and take care of the explosion not much later. The latter is because, unlike Akai, Camel (as a generic driver) is just like any other FBI agent that would not cause much damage to them even if alive. Therefore, they wouldn't risk exposing themselves just for a confirmation of his death. Not to mention that the chance of someone surviving such an explosion is really really low (in fact, impossible in real life).

 

And no, unlike Akai's situation again, this incident is not a solid indication of Kir's loyalty, therefore a death confirmation was not really necessary. From the BO's point of view, whether this "driver" was really dead or not wasn't important, because the "fake-death plan" didn't necessarily involve Kir (yes, we know she's definitely involved, but we're talking about the BO's perspective here). She did what she had to do as a loyal BO member (knocking him off, giving the BO the chance to rescue her, not objecting when they're about to kill him). There's nothing suspicious about that. Whether he's only pretending to be unconscious or not had nothing to do with her, she might not know about it (again, we all know she didn't hit him hard enough so he still remained consciousness, but the BO couldn't deduce that). Therefore, this incident couldn't certainly tell them whether she's loyal or not, so a re-check wasn't needed.     

 

4. Bourbon was the only one to have a good look at Camel after the incident...

 

However, he wasn't present during the car chase so he wouldn't know that Camel was the driver. He couldn't get much description from other agents either since like explained above, they neither know his appearance nor his name, so he also wasn't able to match the information. I don't know how Bourbon figured out that Camel was an FBI agent in the first place, but he might have monitored Jodie first, and then located other agents close to her.

Thanks very good explanation! 

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