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So this is the forums situation with roleplaying.

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First of all, when I did a search this1 came up, which confused me, so I tried this2.

 

That wasn't a good first sign-- in fact, it's more like an omen. When roleplay is only stated as 'role play' it usually indicates a community that lacks high quality roleplayers. From my knowledge in the field, this is what separated boys from men. But that's not evidence, it's just a hunch.

 

There are eighty four topics3 that have the word 'role play' in it and most of these have 'play' before 'role', so a substantially smaller portion of this list is actual roleplay.

 

What I first stumbled upon was this account4, not exactly roleplaying, but I consider any writing in the milieu Gosho offers as 'roleplaying', because you're trying to play the role as a character in the setting.

 

The second topic was one made for roleplaying with other people and this time it leads to another forum to do said roleplay. To be honest, these guys pumped out 849 posts over 10 topics. That's not bad at all, in fact that's awesome! Once I started looking into the posts, I realized there was a great trend to post OOC in an IC thread. OOC means out of character, and IC means in character. The fact that the fluidity of the story is interrupted with the OOC posts, questioning events in posts and just existing, makes for low immersion. I'm actually pretty disappointed, but we should take what we can get.

 

Afterwards I found this post5, and in an attempt to find a connection, looked her up on the roleplaying site6.

 

Next up is DCW IRL7; some of you may actually be familiar. The concept of DCW IRL is kind of weird, especially from a heavy roleplaying context. You usually try not to get too attached to your character, so you definitely don't make yourself! However, it's a novel idea for a world like DC, because the good guys-- especially the kids-- never get killed.

 

So therefore, you never have to worry about the trauma of character death. I honestly don't think I would join this roleplay, but that's just my personal preference. I didn't dig too deep into DCW IRL, but what I expect happened is that the original post served as both IC and OOC, then it got so big they made another round, all the way up to fourteen. Like the first forum, the IC and the OOC intermingle. It's not really just a pet peeve, it's just that the separation of OOC and IC is important. How is someone going to follow the story if there's OOC in the IC? Just make two seperate forums. Which brings me to the next topic: A Roleplay Subforum?8

 

This was a really, really terrible idea. It just underlined the sorry state the roleplay community was in here. They have the energy, they really want to make roleplaying a big thing here, but they don't understand they need to make a community that deserves a subforum. They need to use what they have and clutter up the chatroom with so many roleplay threads that the GM's just make a subforum to make it more convenient. YOU HAVE TO EARN IT!! That's just my take on that topic.

 

Also, Kyuu, I really love your toxicology topic, but I interpreted your input in this thread as really negative and sometimes hostile. If a moderator thinks that it's inappropriate for me to point this out, I have no problem with this paragraph being deleted out. I have actual arguments for what I specifically disagree with him about, but I'm not going to get into that here. If you really want to know, just post below and I'd be glad to share.

 

This is the next thing I found. . .oh jackpot9! So the forum here is still active, but here everything is dedicated to one RP. Maybe this goes to show that having sub-forums leads to a superior roleplaying experience? You could really put this all into one topic and keep everything consistent. I'm gonna check out this site a little more, they might need some help. The problem I see with this is that this topic is buried back into 2013, and it might be for a good reason. Also it looks pretty cool10. The actual roleplay is here: http://detective.ethereal-visions.net/phpbb/

 

Pictures and Topics

 

1 -> http://s10.postimg.org/vh7dh2ca1/CONAN_ONE.png

2 -> http://s10.postimg.org/m361b0lgp/CONAN_TWO.png

3 -> http://s10.postimg.org/613i4mlrd/CONAN_THREE.jpg Just wanted to make sure. . .

4 -> http://s10.postimg.org/6t663tpyh/CONAN_FOUR.jpg

5 -> http://s10.postimg.org/mjmnjpju1/CONAN_5.jpg

6 -> http://s10.postimg.org/ymrz79uw9/CONAN_6.jpg

7 -> http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/1689-dcwirl/

8 -> http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/4341-a-roleplay-subforum/?hl=%2Brole+%2Bplay#entry288292

9 -> http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/4702-detective-conanmagic-kaitou-role-play-anyone/?hl=%2Brole+%2Bplay

10 -> http://s10.postimg.org/v5px4avu1/CONAN_7.jpg and http://s10.postimg.org/bqjqoxrxl/CONAN_8.jpg

 

After that, there's no more roleplaying. DCW IRL died around the 30th of May and I cannot find out why for the life of me, other then the interest just dissipating. Roleplayers here need to learn and adapt to their environment and try other kinds of roleplaying, but the interest just doesn't seem to be there. No one wants to step up to the plate. This is your forums situation on roleplaying, and to be honest, it kinda sucks. I've been lurking a lot lately and this is an awesome forum, so I think it deserves a better effort. The only problem with roleplaying is time; it consumes a lot of it.

 

So if you're thinking of starting a roleplaying forum, try this next time:

 

  1. Make a time limit stressed on the players to maintain discipline; a post every week at the minimum and on the regular try to find a comfortable and consistent posting pattern. What DCW IRL did was great, check it out.

  1. Open up the role of Conan (and everyone else) for each game, so that everyone has a chance to play him.

  2. Find people who are good at certain things; if someone plays Conan well then reward him with more attention and opportunities to play the character.

 

This is how the RP should be structured:

 

Player One → All the suspects, witnesses and any character you couldn't find a role for. This is basically the game master, because he sets up the situation that the rest of the characters will play in.

Player Two → Any characters chosen by the game master that is a minor character; this way the killer could either be a player one or player two. Feel free to have multiple players play minor characters, to keep things fresh.

Player Three – The police, everyone. If this guy can find people to play specific characters from the police, that's OK, but someone has to utilize the grand structure.

Player Four – Conan

Player Five – The Detective Boys, Ran, Kogoru, Dr. Agasa; all the major characters. Like Player Two and three, if you find a person willing to take a character off you, then you should do so!

 

You don't need different people to play each part. That's going to slow things down sooo much and most of the time you can't find everyone to fill every role. The point is to create a story based on the world Gosho has shown us. If we can get multiple RP's going, two people on the forum can play as Conan at once! (Apparently that never happens!)

 

Also, when it comes down to the BO, I honestly think it's in poor taste to RP with them until you've proven you deserve it. BO plots are really rare in DC so you should reflect that quality to get the best feel of the show and the world Conan lives in. I kind of judge because I'm still on episode one hundred fourty one and I have no idea who Akai is or what silver bullet means, but that's still not the point.

 

If you start your own RP on here, please make an OOC topic where you can goof off and ask questions and an IC topic so that the story can be kept in one place. In an RP where information is critical it's important to have it organized. Also, if you do it, take emergency measures to keep the topic alive. Once someone disappears and doesn't come back, replace them. The RP takes precedence over the players, it's a dog eat dog world but you can't just cry about it. Also, don't be super dramatic or take it personally if someone disappears, or if you're not good enough to play Conan but you REALLY want to. Don't be selfish; the story is the important part, not who you play. You have to be a very good and persistent roleplayer to do the major roles, it's just the nature of the game.

 

I would also use piratepad.net or titanpad.net or google documents to do more dialogic passages. You can all join the pad and start roleplaying there, then post the results on the forum. I think this would be really fun for Detective Conan specifically. 

 

I need to point out, that the wiki would be used in a new and inventive way if people began consistently roleplaying. Game masters can use it to find minor recurring characters and weave them into the story and roleplayers can use it to check for consistency in theme.

 

So there you go, that's the situation you guys are in. I think a lot of people don't care, and I'll probably find that out with the next few comments (or lack of comments. . .)

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Also, when it comes down to the BO, I honestly think it's in poor taste to RP with them until you've proven you deserve it. BO plots are really rare in DC so you should reflect that quality to get the best feel of the show and the world Conan lives in. I kind of judge because I'm still on episode one hundred fourty one and I have no idea who Akai is or what silver bullet means, but that's still not the point.

Why? Roleplaying is done for fun, and if people completely screw up the BO, then who cares? Your word choice "poor taste" and "proven you deserve it" (which you used multiple times) is rather snobby. I don't mind if you wish to fairly critique our nonexistent roleplaying threads, but that kind of tone turns me away from listening to you argument. 

 

After that, there's no more roleplaying. DCW IRL died around the 30th of May and I cannot find out why for the life of me, other then the interest just dissipating. Roleplayers here need to learn and adapt to their environment and try other kinds of roleplaying, but the interest just doesn't seem to be there. No one wants to step up to the plate. This is your forums situation on roleplaying, and to be honest, it kinda sucks. I've been lurking a lot lately and this is an awesome forum, so I think it deserves a better effort. The only problem with roleplaying is time; it consumes a lot of it.

DCW IRL was created by IdentityUnknown, and handed to Mohovoricic. Mohovoricic is an adult with a life and a job, and modding such threads is a burden that shouldn't be tasked on any individual. Most of the people here have a life outside of DCW, and it's understandable that if quality drops with a new mod, DCW IRL is done forever.

 

"Kinda sucks"? Oh, thanks, like that helps any. You're simply throwing thoughts many have on to a post, complaining about our lack of effort. Interest and effort are linked, and if you're as observing as you claim to be, you should know that there are about a dozen active members, with even fewer who would join an RP thread. Are you willing to mod a few rounds? Maybe do things you say we, a bunch of poor excuses of members, should be doing? From what I'm getting after reading your complaint, it seems this is as far as you're willing to go.

 

By the way, the images you linked to are impossible to see. 

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Mohovoricic is an adult with a life and a job

hehe, yes i am -in fact it's a new job now, very happy with it. calling me an adult feels kinda strange to me lol. :P

 

but i'm not here for banter, let's get to the meat of the discussion shall we?

 

Next up is DCW IRL7; some of you may actually be familiar. The concept of DCW IRL is kind of weird, especially from a heavy roleplaying context. You usually try not to get too attached to your character, so you definitely don't make yourself!

ah, good times. i completely concede this point, at least the part about the concept. dcw irl was always kinda weird for me, because it did tend to make the player a little too attached to the character - the character is him, after all. this is why i never completely acknowledged it as roleplay in the strictest sense of the word, as there aren't predefined roles, and consider it more impromptu theatre.

 

I honestly don't think I would join this roleplay, but that's just my personal preference. I didn't dig too deep into DCW IRL, but what I expect happened is that the original post served as both IC and OOC, then it got so big they made another round, all the way up to fourteen. Like the first forum, the IC and the OOC intermingle. It's not really just a pet peeve, it's just that the separation of OOC and IC is important. How is someone going to follow the story if there's OOC in the IC? Just make two seperate forums.

well, that's unfortunate, we really need the new ppl you know. :P

 

honestly, we didn't stop the original post because it got big, we stopped it because it got too messy. the rounds after were created after the original players from the original topic came up with a set of rules (such as the limited time span, which you did compliment, thanks!) and started a bunch of topics. but that's just pedantics, move on?

 

if there's ooc in the ic? i'm a little confused by this, so i'll put down how i interpreted it and respond to that, and you can correct me if i'm wrong, alright? i saw this as "the banter" overlapping with "the story". i believe that iu and i did both recognize the possibility, and we did come up with a rule to clearly distinct the ooc from the ic. as for why make two separate forums, there really shouldn't be a need to as long as the two are kept distinct, which i have generally noticed that they are. if you take a look, there are a few forums with a lot of activity, and then some with little activity. keeping things too spread out has its own issues and while it does keep organization its often not practical.

 

 

but now i want to address something that you seem to be latching onto: RP using DC roles. it's very very important to make the distinction (and you make this and it should be fairly obvious anyway) that DCW IRL does not really follow the standards that most RPs go by. i certainly don't consider it an RP, but i do consider it to be fun. you also make a few points about people needing to "deserve" something (an RP forum, a BO role) and simply neglect the fact that DCW IRL doesn't really take itself that seriously and it isn't really meant to be taken seriously. that's partially why the one month round rule is in place, so that if something goes down the drain there's always something new to start soon and we don't linger too much on mistakes. the fact that we don't take it seriously, that dcw does have other things to prop itself up (like a very extensive wiki) may contribute to the decline of dcw irl but remember that dcw irl was never the focal point of the forum.

 

as for the fact that this forum isn't dedicated to RP and that dedicated forums are better at RPing and have a more conducive environment, i totally agree. dcw was never a rp forum and it never was meant to be. dcw irl just happened to sprout up in dcw instead of our neighbor dctp or something and that's why it's called dcw irl. and once again, dcw irl isn't something we take terribly seriously, which i mentioned before, so, and this might seem harsh but it is true, we really don't deliver on the whole rp experience because we really don't need to. dcw irl was kinda meant to stay within dcw and it works with dcw members in general, and trying to compare dcw irl to rps out there is like trying to compare the strait of gibraltar to the indian ocean - it's different in terms of scale and purpose and all sorts of differences.

 

remember that we aren't really trying to make this an rp forum and we really shouldn't.

 

Most of the people here have a life outside of DCW, and it's understandable that if quality drops with a new mod, DCW IRL is done forever.

i do kinda blame the decline of dcw irl on myself- after all, i hosted the last few rounds, none of which i felt i handled properly and all died before the time alloted for the round. kirsch does make a point that people have lives outside of dcw, and i once again add that dcw isn't meant to be a rp forum and was more of a side experiment - that worked pretty well but didn't stay.

 

 

Maybe do things you say we, a bunch of poor excuses of members, should be doing? From what I'm getting after reading your complaint, it seems this is as far as you're willing to go.

plz, don't point fingers - i honestly don't think this is a fair accusation. i don't think belittling us was his intention, though i believe his criticisms are a bit out there considering the nature of dcw irl.

 

 

So there you go, that's the situation you guys are in. I think a lot of people don't care, and I'll probably find that out with the next few comments (or lack of comments. . .)

it's a situation i believe we are perfectly willing to keep. i did have a few ideas about branching off dcw irl to a different forum back when dcw irl was quite active, but after some discussion we decided it wasn't the right move. it's not a matter of not caring more as we seem to have come to the conclusion that it wasn't really meant to be.

 

also, you managed to get the attention of the head mod of dcw irl so i guess that's something? :)

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i do kinda blame the decline of dcw irl on myself- after all, i hosted the last few rounds, none of which i felt i handled properly and all died before the time alloted for the round. kirsch does make a point that people have lives outside of dcw, and i once again add that dcw isn't meant to be a rp forum and was more of a side experiment - that worked pretty well but didn't stay.

 

 

plz, don't point fingers - i honestly don't think this is a fair accusation. i don't think belittling us was his intention, though i believe his criticisms are a bit out there considering the nature of dcw irl.

Please- don't. I think you did great in what I read :D

 

I apologize for that. I was pretty set off by what he said .-.

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Note: I had too many quotes, so I found an alternative method.

Hello Kirsch and Mohorovicic, I'm going to clean up some misunderstandings with this post:
 

Why? Roleplaying is done for fun, and if people completely screw up the BO, then who cares? Your word choice "poor taste" and "proven you deserve it" (which you used multiple times) is rather snobby. I don't mind if you wish to fairly critique our nonexistent roleplaying threads, but that kind of tone turns me away from listening to you argument. 

 
Well, considering you only have one life on earth, I figured it would be important that you don't waste it on poor experiences. But I agree, I was out of turn and I apologize, I meant it more in a way that 'I would never' and not to scold past attempts. It's just what I think, you don't have to take it so personally and if you disagree we can still be friends.  :wacko:
 

DCW IRL was created by IdentityUnknown, and handed to Mohovoricic. Mohovoricic is an adult with a life and a job, and modding such threads is a burden that shouldn't be tasked on any individual. Most of the people here have a life outside of DCW, and it's understandable that if quality drops with a new mod, DCW IRL is done forever.



 

Okay, interesting. I wanted to know what happened specifically, so thank you! I am super confused by the passive aggressiveness, but as indicated from your last paragraph, I probably deserved that tone(?) haha. Please keep in mind that the phrase 'people have a life outside' is kind of well known and is automatically assumed in all roleplay environments and in the context of all roleplaying discussion. I'm even on the side of real life > roleplay. I think you're talking to me as if I'm a lot less competent than what I really am, which is probably my fault for leaving a bad first impression.  :( 
 

"Kinda sucks"? Oh, thanks, like that helps any. You're simply throwing thoughts many have on to a post, complaining about our lack of effort. Interest and effort are linked, and if you're as observing as you claim to be, you should know that there are about a dozen active members, with even fewer who would join an RP thread. Are you willing to mod a few rounds? Maybe do things you say we, a bunch of poor excuses of members, should be doing? From what I'm getting after reading your complaint, it seems this is as far as you're willing to go.

 

 

Hmm, I'm definitely confused by this one. Let me answer that last question; yes, I think this is as far as I'm willing to go? I'm totally willing to hang out with the roleplayers on here and be convinced to go farther though. . .!! 

 

I don't think you guys are 'poor excuses for members' so please don't say that's what I was inferring. I think you're interpreting this as an active attack on the community when it was more of a tough love call for action from someone from a heavy roleplaying environment. You probably know what this means (but I don't know!), so go to (or read) these links to see what I'm talking about more specifically:

http://www.roleplayerguild.com/

 

https://www.rpnation.com/

 

And any other site where role play is the goal of the forum. I'm making a comparison between the (very well done) roleplays on there and the ones on here. Hopefully that helps ease some misunderstanding, and hopefully you don't find it offensive (and instead see it as a compliment) that I'm comparing author-level roleplays to the ones found on this forum. Maybe you'll say I'm very wrong for doing so. . . That's completely OK for you to say, valid point.

I used to write 8 paragraph posts for stories that picked up on themes of objectification, dependency theory, existentialism, etc. . .and I applied and compared my experience to DCW's roleplay. So I guess I am totally silly for doing that, but I don't think Detective Conan deserves any less.

 

Also,  I don't have evidence that there's a strong presence of roleplayers here. There totally can be a strong presence here (like you said, a dozen or so roleplayers), but I cannot discern that from my research on the forum. So this is basically how I have to find it. . .

 

By the way, the images you linked to are impossible to see. 

 

 

I checked them all out and they work great. If you wanted to know more information on them, you can use the URL to find the topic.

 

To cap this off, I think that you misunderstood a lot of what I wrote. That's OK, because I think a lot of it was my fault. I'll try to be more considerate next time. I'm assuming you are a roleplayer on here, so how about you talk about your experience and how you see the current roleplay situation? As you can see, I could only acquire this knowledge from looking back into posts and it's quite shallow. So how about we clarify some things!! 

 

 

hehe, yes i am -in fact it's a new job now, very happy with it. calling me an adult feels kinda strange to me lol.  :P

 

but i'm not here for banter, let's get to the meat of the discussion shall we?

 

ah, good times. i completely concede this point, at least the part about the concept. dcw irl was always kinda weird for me, because it did tend to make the player a little too attached to the character - the character is him, after all. this is why i never completely acknowledged it as roleplay in the strictest sense of the word, as there aren't predefined roles, and consider it more impromptu theatre.

 

well, that's unfortunate, we really need the new ppl you know.  :P

 

I saw the last post was back in May last year. I don't see any OOC threads or any way to implement oneself into the community.
 
This is the last post on this topic: http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/3997-dcw-irl-general-info-and-faq/?p=317604

That topic would be your main, uh, 'place' for recruiting members and it hasn't been updated since May. Maybe I should post on there to bump it back up so you don't double post? I'll definitely do it, DCW IRL deserves it.
 
Right now it doesn't look like DCW IRL even exists any more, so if that's not true, then the evidence on the forum is contradicting that actual state of the topic.
 
honestly, we didn't stop the original post because it got big, we stopped it because it got too messy. the rounds after were created after the original players from the original topic came up with a set of rules (such as the limited time span, which you did compliment, thanks!) and started a bunch of topics. but that's just pedantics, move on?

 

I actually really wanted to know about that, thanks!

 

 

if there's ooc in the ic? i'm a little confused by this, so i'll put down how i interpreted it and respond to that, and you can correct me if i'm wrong, alright? i saw this as "the banter" overlapping with "the story". i believe that iu and i did both recognize the possibility, and we did come up with a rule to clearly distinct the ooc from the ic. as for why make two separate forums, there really shouldn't be a need to as long as the two are kept distinct, which i have generally noticed that they are. if you take a look, there are a few forums with a lot of activity, and then some with little activity. keeping things too spread out has its own issues and while it does keep organization its often not practical.

 

 

Okay, sure. I can understand the logic of that system. In comparison to more serious roleplays it would be unacceptable, but now that the context is clearer I can see what ya'll were doing. It is very foreign to what I've experienced in the past couple of years, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong.

From the places that I typically roleplay, there are two forums; one for OOC and one for IC. Because the story is important, you don't want any OOC posts in between the IC. You utilize the OOC forum to gain more members and ask questions about the IC and you screw around in Skype or Vent, whichever medium you use to hang out in. I can agree that in the situation of a fan forum having both in one place is practical and that in a role play concentrated forum having things in different places are more important.

 

but now i want to address something that you seem to be latching onto: RP using DC roles. it's very very important to make the distinction (and you make this and it should be fairly obvious anyway) that DCW IRL does not really follow the standards that most RPs go by. i certainly don't consider it an RP, but i do consider it to be fun. you also make a few points about people needing to "deserve" something (an RP forum, a BO role) and simply neglect the fact that DCW IRL doesn't really take itself that seriously and it isn't really meant to be taken seriously. that's partially why the one month round rule is in place, so that if something goes down the drain there's always something new to start soon and we don't linger too much on mistakes. the fact that we don't take it seriously, that dcw does have other things to prop itself up (like a very extensive wiki) may contribute to the decline of dcw irl but remember that dcw irl was never the focal point of the forum.

 

 

I would actually exclude DCW IRL from what I was talking about there, since like you said, it doesn't really take itself that seriously (you play as yourself). I also don't think DCW IRL has anything to do with the 'deserving'; although the 'RolePlay Subforum' used DCW IRL as the main RP they were promoting, I agree with you, that isn't nearly enough to actually make a roleplaying subforum, especially since DCW IRL isn't a roleplay in the strict sense. I'm basically 100% with you on what you're saying.

To be honest, I've been in a lot of heavy roleplaying groups and they could definitely benefit from the one month rule. If I ever return to heavy roleplaying and I'm back with my crew, I'll see about implementing it in our epic hard science fiction space dramas.
 

as for the fact that this forum isn't dedicated to RP and that dedicated forums are better at RPing and have a more conducive environment, i totally agree. dcw was never a rp forum and it never was meant to be. dcw irl just happened to sprout up in dcw instead of our neighbor dctp or something and that's why it's called dcw irl. and once again, dcw irl isn't something we take terribly seriously, which i mentioned before, so, and this might seem harsh but it is true, we really don't deliver on the whole rp experience because we really don't need to. dcw irl was kinda meant to stay within dcw and it works with dcw members in general, and trying to compare dcw irl to rps out there is like trying to compare the strait of gibraltar to the indian ocean - it's different in terms of scale and purpose and all sorts of differences.

 

remember that we aren't really trying to make this an rp forum and we really shouldn't.

 

 

I don't know what you're apologizing for, I totally agree. This isn't an RP forum and I'm not trying to make it one, just want to make that point clear!! 

The reason why I'm making the comparison is because of the nature of Detective Conan. For me, it wasn't about DCW, but about DC.

I think Detective Conan has some serious roleplaying potential-- and clearly I'm not the only one who thinks so. But when I did my research on this forum, I was honestly disappointed because my idea of Detective Conan roleplay was so different then the attempts made by other members of the community. I don't think it was because the members didn't have passion, I don't think it was a lack of story telling experience (I don't know. . .), I don't think it's because the roleplayers in this community are inferior. . .

 

I do think that it's because in most DC RP's focus on giving out the roles of each character to other members (I feel like Conan is always picked before the forum topic is put up. . .!), also I think the biggest problems for DC RP laid in every other RP except for DCW IRL. I want to elaborate on this trend:

 

http://detectiveconanrpg.forumotion.com/t1-welcome-to-detective-conan-rpg-rules-and-guidelines

From the site:

 

"Explanations: When you role-play a character, you MUST change your username to the character's name. Then choose an avatar of your character.
 
BEFORE changing your username to the character, you MUST PM me and tell me what character you want to be and why. If I'm satisfied, then I'll give you the "OK" and you can go ahead and do it. (Don't worry, I'm pretty easy-going. XD)"

And also, this post, which leads to another site: http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/4702-detective-conanmagic-kaitou-role-play-anyone/?hl=%2Brole+%2Bplay
 

"Currently the following canon characters have been taken, so everyone aside from them is available:

Koizumi Akako
Kudo Yukiko
Kudo Yuusaku
Kuroba Chikage/Phantom Lady
Kuroba Kaito/Kaitou Kid
Nakamori Aoko
Vermouth"

 

The problem is that player and character are bound together and that Detective Conan RP's tend to do that a lot. That's my main problem with DC RP and I think DCW IRL is totally an exclusion from that problem. I can totally talk more about this if someone wants to know, and I feel like there are more examples out there. . .

 

i do kinda blame the decline of dcw irl on myself- after all, i hosted the last few rounds, none of which i felt i handled properly and all died before the time alloted for the round. kirsch does make a point that people have lives outside of dcw, and i once again add that dcw isn't meant to be a rp forum and was more of a side experiment - that worked pretty well but didn't stay.

 

 

plz, don't point fingers - i honestly don't think this is a fair accusation. i don't think belittling us was his intention, though i believe his criticisms are a bit out there considering the nature of dcw irl.

 

 

True, I could concede that I stepped out of line when I look back in context.

 

it's a situation i believe we are perfectly willing to keep. i did have a few ideas about branching off dcw irl to a different forum back when dcw irl was quite active, but after some discussion we decided it wasn't the right move. it's not a matter of not caring more as we seem to have come to the conclusion that it wasn't really meant to be.

 

also, you managed to get the attention of the head mod of dcw irl so i guess that's something?  :)

 

 

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Please- don't. I think you did great in what I read  :D

 

I apologize for that. I was pretty set off by what he said .-.

 

 

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I have been in the Detective Conan scene for like 7 years now? There has never been a dedicated faction in the Detective Conan fandom serious about roleplaying that hasn't died in a month or two. Also, LucasIchiro, there is even less interest in "elite" roleplay like you are describing vs causal pickmeups. Ain't nobody got time for that. I think there are several reasons why:

 

1) That's just the way the DC fandom is. Here we get maybe 15-30 unique people posting per day. At DCTP they get a few more, but not a whole lot. It is relaxed, without the hopping activity that roleplay-friendly fandoms have. I do not see those numbers going up in the next five years. Detective Conan passed its sort-of-spike in popularity now that the people who remember watching the show as kids have come and gone and the efforts to air the show in English have been exhausted.

 

2) Also, while I might be wrong, I am under the impression that roleplayers tend to be young rather than older. DC in my experience is older demographically than say the fans of Naruto or Ranma 1/2 back in its heydey. It also has a lot of English-speaking not-Anglospherians who aren't as interested in roleplay.

 

3) The characters are hard to roleplay. DC is long, and you have to know a lot to get the characters right. The backgrounds of many characters, protagonist and antagonist, are mysterious and not many people are willing to plunge off into the unknown. It's the same reason why it is incredibly rare for any fanfiction to show up about arc characters before their arcs are completely done.

 

4) Other types of forum games appeal more to the average DC reader. It don't think it was unexpected that Mafia, a puzzle-type community game, took off in the DC fandom at its peak of popularity. It is a better fit for the fandom who like the mysteries and plot more and the characters second for the most part.

 

In conclusion, LucasIchiro, I think you are better off trying to start a DC roleplay at one of your "elite" roleplay sites than here. Crosspost here about it if you have something and maybe you'll pick up a few participants. Here, there are not enough people who care enough to meet your high standards.

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I checked them all out and they work great. If you wanted to know more information on them, you can use the URL to find the topic.

I meant that the pictures were 180x100, so while they were visible, it's hard to make out what was in them.

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