Okiya Subaru?

[silverbullet28 1]

I have two idea who is okiya. mmhh?? maybe he is really bourbon 2nd he is an ol' friend of akai? i dont think so that he is the real akai. and the scared akai is bourbon. because why are gin and other is surprise when they know that akai is still alive?

[Stradivarius 6]

I was thinking, if okiyas is akai, maybe Conan/Sinichi mother has disguise him to another person like her did to heiji in vol 42

Is Akai and Yukiko know each other??

[detectiveRJB 15]

Is Akai and Yukiko know each other??

possible!I think him is a spy for CIA.

[User 4869 100]

The point of have Ran kick Okiya in the face was to prove he's not wearing a mask. But Akai and Okiya face look similar anyway.

One of the point made in the 13 redshirt case is that Both Scar Akai and Subaru is not Vermouth. and Scar Akai and Subaru are not the same person

[Scar Akai 65]

Yep... And the two are most likely akai and borboun

[detectiveRJB 15]

Hey!Other possible Shuuichi Akai and okiya subaru are brother.

[User 4869 100]

Yep... And the two are most likely akai and borboun

I already has reasons in mind. But could you please explain that why do you think they are Akai and Bourbon. Just share our opinion

[Scar Akai 65]

Yea. It will. Be better that way. But please write it orderly and in a correct sentence form. Thanks

[detectiveRJB 15]

I already has reasons in mind. But could you please explain that why do you think they are Akai and Bourbon. Just share our opinion

Friend or brother.

[User 4869 100]

Friend or brother.

I didn't ask "what" are their relation. I ask "why" he think they are what the are.

[Scar Akai 65]

I didn't ask "what" are their relation. I ask "why" he think they are what the are.

I think that I have posted mine in my first few posts here... How about yours?

[User 4869 100]

Ok I didn't read all the way here. But will check later.

I think both of them have something to do with war between Bo and FBI. Why?

Okiya recognize Scar Akai and has reason to not being seen by him. He also don't want Jodie to reach the department store door. That make him "one of them" friend and Enemy for Bo, or for FBI.

Scar Akai, if he's Akai, yes he's also involve. if he's not Akai himself. dress as Akai, put Mizunashi Rena in danger, Smile at Chainti, Gin has reason to not kill him after think he's Akai. that also make him involve in this matter.

But they could be other beside Akai or Bourbon? I don't think so. When Gosho introduce Jodie as FBI. he's already has Jodie say the word FBI. also Akai friend also wear FBI jacket. In CIA case. they mention "Company" and CIA stock phase. If another third party will appear. there should be some hint toward them.

Only FBI that missing is Akai. Only BO that missing is Bourbon. there no mention about anothe FBi or another BO. Since two people that involve in this matter appear. there likely that two.

The theory that Akai Shuichi is Okiya Subaru is a very compelling one, and a lot of the points seem to match up. But if you take Subaru's introduction story into account, I think it pretty much ruins the idea. First off, Subaru was introduced right after Shuichi "died". Subaru was a tenant at an apartment complex that had burned down. Because Subaru was a suspect in an arson case, I think it would have been mentioned had he only just moved in (or spontaneously changed his appearance, if Shuichi had been living there all along). Subaru was determined innocent in the case because he was the "red man" in the landlord's son's journal, named for his tendency to water the flowers like a red fire truck. I think, in order for the kid to pick up on Subaru's behavior and then formulate an appropriate nickname, Subaru must have been living there for a while. Akai Shuichi had only just gone missing, so the possibility that he immediately became Okiya Subaru is slightly unlikely. Not impossible though! I am always prepared to be surprised.

But I do think that Conan knows something we don't. Well, I'm sure he knows lots of things we don't. But his excuses for keeping Subaru in his home are pretty careless, completely contrary to his character. Conan can be rather impetuous when it comes to returning to his original body, but when it comes to dealing with the Black Organization, he has always been very careful. Conan has a reason for keeping Subaru in his home, and hopefully we'll find out what it is soon!

I also hope Subaru starts playing a more prominent role in everything. Haha, I was the same way when Eisuke was introduced. I loved the new character so much that I wanted him to be following Conan around 24/7. Okay, maybe that would be a bit much. But you know what I mean.

this is one of the problem for Akai = Subaru believer. I just say Time frame in DC world can't be take seriously. You remember Ran or Conan never move up their class (what's the correct word? I pretty mess up here but you got the Idea?). I.E. the incident involve Akemi Miyano is only "several month Ago" So we can't say "Okay one case past. that mean three day" or something. It was three case in manga between Akai dies and Subaru show up and two case between in the Anime. I won't say that "immediately" I think if you do thin on regular basis. and if you do that just 1 week. that observant kid would know.

Remember. Conan react to Subaru address despite never went there. It's seem the two relate somehow.

[Chekhov MacGuffin 1089]

An article for the Okiya Subaru is Akai Shuuichi theory is now out in article space. You can see it here.

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Okiya_is_Akai_Theory

Feel free to edit it or offer critique.

[Pr1me 101 15]

I remember thinking how the Okiya Subaru or Scar Akai could've been Miyano Akemi, lol.

[detectiveRJB 15]

Spy

[Cheesus 6]

what kind of comment is that^^

IMO Okiya = Bourbon and Akai is Scar

[CarpetCrawler 280]

I remember thinking how the Okiya Subaru or Scar Akai could've been Miyano Akemi, lol.

Then how would he cover up his chest?

[hopes 237]

I was just thinkng... I'm always wondering about Okiya. I mean, he's smart, and had has amazing deductive abilities like Shinichi/Conan. But he's also a Sherlock Holmes fan. And the Boss has some kind of connection with detectives. Couldn't he be a candidate for the Boss? But for some weird reason, Conan trusts him. He also has many similarities to Akai. Such as being lefthanded, similar build, and a refrence to wolves. I just wonder... I doubt that he's Bourbon, a more likely candidate would be 'Scar Akai'. Why other reason would Gin stop pointing a gun at Kir's head just for seeing 'Scar Akai'? Gin then comments about how 'Bourbon always liked to do things his way' or something like that. So, there are many possibilities. Ideas?

[Chekhov MacGuffin 1089]

I was just thinkng... I'm always wondering about Okiya. I mean, he's smart, and had has amazing deductive abilities like Shinichi/Conan. But he's also a Sherlock Holmes fan. And the Boss has some kind of connection with detectives. Couldn't he be a candidate for the Boss? But for some weird reason, Conan trusts him. He also has many similarities to Akai. Such as being lefthanded, similar build, and a refrence to wolves. I just wonder... I doubt that he's Bourbon, a more likely candidate would be 'Scar Akai'. Why other reason would Gin stop pointing a gun at Kir's head just for seeing 'Scar Akai'? Gin then comments about how 'Bourbon always liked to do things his way' or something like that. So, there are many possibilities. Ideas?

These are the two most popular theories. They're built on many of the details you have pointed out.

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Okiya_is_Akai_Theory

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Scar_Akai_is_Bourbon_Theory

[Abs. 2]

Okiya is Akai is The Boss. Solved. :-D

[hopes 237]

Well, I was just thinking. I mean, he could be the Boss. Or he could be Akai. I don't think it's both. I'm so confused now. But then again, I always am.

[Scar Akai 65]

Then how would he cover up his chest?

AIR PUMP

[detectiveRJB 15]

Well, I was just thinking. I mean, he could be the Boss. Or he could be Akai. I don't think it's both. I'm so confused now. But then again, I always am.

Both good opinion.My opinion he is a spy for CIA.Akai is alive but him spy for enemy of BO

[Aeyra 260]

A spy for the CIA? But to spy on whom?

[heLLo GiGi 0]

I Found an awesome theory!

Shuuichi Akai's Death Theory! Do you think Akai Shuuichi is really dead or alive?

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/416-shuuichi-akais-death-theory/page__view__findpost__p__26723