Aries Bless 18 Report post Posted February 11, 2016 If the water tip was left on, then maybe the killer was desperate to get something flush away into the drain or thin out something, so the police would have difficulty in tracing it. Or maybe the killer arranged some sort of murder-trap that killed the victim, while he was all alone, so the water tip was one because the victim opened it himself, but after he was killed there no one to close it. (The Miyano died in a fire. Doesn't that sound a bit supisious? The BO always erased lose links by using fire) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Sporkums 123 Report post Posted February 11, 2016 Yeah, I think that it's a given that it wasn't an "accident". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heliotropic 139 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 File 949 Text Spoilers: http://nozomi.2ch.sc/test/read.cgi/ymag/1455279836/0- Reveal hidden contents FILE949 甘い匂い 沖矢は17年前の事件にかかわってたのは自分ではなく父親だという コナンが父親のことを聞こうとすると、逆にコナンの正体を聞かれたため中断 手当てが終わり、帰ろうとする第一発見者を引き留めているところに 沖矢はガラスを右足で踏んだのかと尋ねる 第一発見者がガラスを踏んだのは左足だが、その前の事故で右足を折っていた ともかく、コナンたちは第一発見者に事件の経緯を再現してもらう 第一発見者は離れの玄関でボディガードの検査を受けたあと 引き戸を開けて中に入るが誰も出て来ず、上がり込んで声をかけるも返事すらなし 奥の風呂場の脱衣所の扉が開いてるの気づき のぞき込んだらすでに凶行の後 とは言うが、扉が全開だったら破片を踏むはずもないし わずかしか開いてなかったというのを信じるなら 開けた扉で破片がどけられてないとおかしい 自分が被害者を殴ったのであれば返り血がついてるはずだと 第一発見者は反論しつつ上着を脱ぐが、シャツのボタンを掛け違えてるし 背中の裾もズボンから出ているし、ネクタイを締めてる割にだらしない恰好 検視が撮影を終え、破片を回収しようとするので 沖矢は第一発見者が破片を素足で踏んだのか聞くと、スリッパ履いてたと証拠品を出す 被害者の遺体を運びだす検視が通り過ぎると、甘い匂いがする なぜか傷口には、蜂蜜のようなペースト状の物がついていたらしい コナンたちは目暮に追い出されると、犯人は第一発見者で間違いないとみる しかし、方法まではわかったが、凶器がまだ不明 そこでボディガードに、第一発見者が何を持っていたか尋ねると ・駄菓子につけるビニール入りのおまけフィギュア ・財布 ・ハンカチ ・鍵 それとは別に、どこからか駄菓子屋で売ってるようなカラーボールが飛んできたという 1個だけで誰も取りに来なかったので、それまで気にしないでいたが ボールは事件が起きたので警察に渡したとのこと 転がっていたのは鉄格子のない小窓のそば そこはトイレの足元で、子供でも侵入は不可能 転がっていたものの割に大きな音がしたといい、まさかその中に凶器が… などとコナンたちが考えていると阿笠が悲鳴を上げる 見ればアリの行列 図鑑の中のアリはかわいいものだが、現物は苦手だというのはさておき 沖矢がアリの行く先を追うと、縁の下に何かが転がっているようだ ■アリの行く手には隠された凶器が…!?次号解決編！ Fujiwara: 949: Okiya says the one affected by events 17 years ago wasn't him but his father. Conan tries to ask about his father but is instead asked about his identity, so he breaks off (the conversation). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltavite 61 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 Reveal hidden contents I was wondering if Subaru's father was Kouji or not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCUniverseAficionado 252 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 Reveal hidden contents A how-dunnit, huh? Shuichi's father was probably an FBI agent who ended up investigating the case… which eventually led to his apparent death. Remember, Masumi is 17—around the time Koji Haneda was murdered was when her father must've gotten caught up in BO affairs. This led Shuichi to join the FBI. I wonder if we'll see Masumi and Mary approach Shiho/Ai at Agasa's house while Andre is watching, next file. After all, if Shuichi/Subaru appeared "soon" as Gosho's postcard said, it's not unreasonable to discount the possibility that they'll appear in this case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazar Manfredie 226 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 On 2/13/2016 at 2:16 PM, DCUniverseAficionado said: Reveal hidden contents I wonder if we'll see Masumi and Mary approach Shiho/Ai at Agasa's house while Andre is watching, next file. Reveal hidden contents That is long overdue. I would love it if RUM showed up at the end of all this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heliotropic 139 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 949 Text Spoiler translations from Spimer Reveal hidden contents File 949: Sweet scentOkiya lets out that it was his father and not him who was involved in the case of 17 years ago: when Conan tries asking about his father Okiya instead asks Conan who he really is so Conan doesn't ask anymore.The 1st discoverer (owner of a candy shop) has his wounds taken care of and is about to leave yet he's stopped from doing so (presumably by the police). Okiya then asks him whether he stepped into glass with the right foot. The 1st discoverer replies that he stepped into the glass with the left foot and that he'd damaged his right foot in an accident time ago. Nevertheless, they ask the 1st discoverer to recreate his tale of the discovery.After the man got checked by the bodyguards on the entrance of the annex he opened the sliding door to step inside yet no-one came out: he called out in a loud voice yet there was no response. He then realized that the bathroom's dressing room door further inside was opened: he peeked inside and found the victim already dead or so he says yet if the door was fully opened then he shouldn't have stepped on the debris: if they are to believe that the door was only a bit opened then it feels odd that the debris weren't stepped by the opened door.The 1st discoverer objects that if he'd been the one to attack the victim he should have blood spurts: he takes off his coat but his shirt's buttons aren't correctly set. The back's cuff is popping out of the trousers and despite that he's tightened the tie his outfit as a whole is untidy.The forensics finish taking photos of the crime scene and are about to retrieve the debris when Okiya asks the 1st discoverer whether he stepped into the debris barefoot or not: the man answers he was wearing slippers and brings out evidence of that. The forensics carrying the body pass next to the ground and they notice a sweet scent: for some unknown reason the victim's wounds see to have a honey-like paste.Megure tells Conan and the other 2 to come out and they are convinced that the man is the culprit yet how he did it and what was the weapon remain unknown: they ask the bodyguards about what the 1st discoverer carried upon coming:. A vinyl bag containing a bonus figure to be put in candy. His wallet. A handkerchief. KeysAnd, apart from that there was a color ball like the ones that sell in candy shops that landed in the yard: it was only 1 ball and no-one came to ask for it so they didn't mind it but now that there's this case going on they'd handed it over to the police.It was rolling on the ground next to a small window without steel bars, the bathroom's feet but it was a small space in which not even a child could fit in: they add that it was pretty loud when it was rolling on the ground despite its size: Conan and Okiya begin to wonder if the weapon was hidden inside of that ball when Agasa screams at seeing a row of ants. He says that they're cute when they're picture book drawings but he hates the real ones.Okiya looks at where the ants head to and finds something that's ended up beneath the edge (of the bathroom?).Side-note: "Is the weapon where the ants head to...!? Next issue, the resolution!" 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uchiha Shadow 44 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 On 2/13/2016 at 3:17 PM, Neo Balthazar said: Reveal hidden contents That is long overdue. I would love it if RUM showed up at the end of all this. Reveal hidden contents I want to believe this whole thing ties in to RUM, it's his arc after all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazar Manfredie 226 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 On 2/13/2016 at 8:11 PM, Uchiha Shadow said: Reveal hidden contents I want to believe this whole thing ties in to RUM, it's his arc after all. Reveal hidden contents I have a feeling that RUM killed Akais father hope im wrong, that was used with Jodie and Vermouth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCUniverseAficionado 252 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 On 2/13/2016 at 8:48 PM, Neo Balthazar said: Reveal hidden contents I have a feeling that RUM killed Akais father hope im wrong, that was used with Jodie and Vermouth Reveal hidden contents Is their father really dead? "Unfortunately, Akai's father is already… it's a secret!" It's not been established when Kiritake (the likely name of the father on Shukichi's marriage registration form) apparently died—he could've apparently done so 17 years ago, or 15 years ago. We do know that Hyoue's accident was 15 years ago, though, and back during Kawanakajima, it was hinted that the real Hyoue had been replaced… hmm… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 14, 2016 On 2/13/2016 at 9:13 PM, DCUniverseAficionado said: Reveal hidden contents Is their father really dead? "Unfortunately, Akai's father is already… it's a secret!" It's not been established when Kiritake (the likely name of the father on Shukichi's marriage registration form) apparently died—he could've apparently done so 17 years ago, or 15 years ago. We do know that Hyoue's accident was 15 years ago, though, and back during Kawanakajima, it was hinted that the real Hyoue had been replaced… hmm… Kuroda's accident was 10 years ago, not 15. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
detConShin 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2016 Can it be that this Asaka guy is actually shuichi Akai's father? Or am I just overthinking Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chukichi 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2016 On 2/13/2016 at 9:13 PM, DCUniverseAficionado said: Reveal hidden contents Is their father really dead? "Unfortunately, Akai's father is already… it's a secret!" It's not been established when Kiritake (the likely name of the father on Shukichi's marriage registration form) apparently died—he could've apparently done so 17 years ago, or 15 years ago. We do know that Hyoue's accident was 15 years ago, though, and back during Kawanakajima, it was hinted that the real Hyoue had been replaced… hmm… Reveal hidden contents Masumi said her father died. (File 872) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serinox 127 Report post Posted February 14, 2016 On 2/14/2016 at 3:20 PM, Chukichi said: Reveal hidden contents Masumi said her father died. (File 872) Reveal hidden contents Yeah, but Masumi also thought that Shuichi was dead, which wasn't true either, so the Akai father might be alive without Masumi knowing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uchiha Shadow 44 Report post Posted February 14, 2016 On 2/14/2016 at 3:20 PM, Chukichi said: Reveal hidden contents Masumi said her father died. (File 872) Reveal hidden contents And she said her mother is in America, which is not likely, so she can lie, and it could be the same with Shuu's case, he's alive, they just don't know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aries Bless 18 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Maybe Asaka was the Akai father, A FBI agent who was assisted to protect Amanda under an alias. If BO was behind Amanda's death then maybe they took Asaka with them to interrogate him about the FBI and killed him later, or perhaps they just took him away in order to make him a likely suspect if Amanda and Koji's deaths was suspected to be murder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uchiha Shadow 44 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 I'm getting Vermouth arc vibes from this case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazar Manfredie 226 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 On 2/15/2016 at 11:49 AM, Uchiha Shadow said: I'm getting Vermouth arc vibes from this case. gosho loves similar arcs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heliotropic 139 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 File 949 baidu File 949 imgur 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aries Bless 18 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Maybe this Amanda is connected to the rich friend of the Akai father, who has been taking care of Sera. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurara-chan 13 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 Reveal hidden contents Asaka is a woman, isn't she? From the picture in File 948... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heliotropic 139 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 On 2/17/2016 at 1:49 PM, Kurara-chan said: Reveal hidden contents Asaka is a woman, isn't she? From the picture in File 948... Reveal hidden contents It's rather hard to say... the gender doesn't seem to be specified, but "Asaka" is apparently a female given name? I thought they were a man at first glance. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCUniverseAficionado 252 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 Reveal hidden contents If Gosho said that the list (or, more likely, Koji Haneda's name, and, thus, himself) is a red herring, then maybe Asaka (who is evidently a woman) is... This can only be the case, of course, if certain threads brought up by this case go nowhere/are dead ends, giving the Movie room to use them (and reference to Koji Haneda and the current case will be, of course, minimal). On 2/17/2016 at 1:14 PM, MeiTanteixX said: Reveal hidden contents - Shuukichi, Mary or someone else might be the one who re-posted the information about Kouji's case in hope that someone will share something they know about the incident... Reveal hidden contents It's more likely Mary or someone else. Either way, they must've been connected to Amanda and had access to the files on the case, or were there, and then there's why they felt motivated to upload this info, seventeen years later (they may have been doing this for years, but the waiting period is still curious). On 2/17/2016 at 1:14 PM, MeiTanteixX said: Reveal hidden contents - Elena and Atsushi were working on the "Silver Bullet" project, the "dream drug" that they had high hopes for to do good! The BO funded their research with the intention of stealing their work, after they successfully complete it, and then use their formula to create Apotoxin 4869! All the BO supporters/funders, like Pisco, were promised to get the drug that BO had in mind, Apotoxin 4869, and after hearing Elena's tape about what Apotoxin 4869 was supposed to be("Silver Bullet"), Shiho realized that the BO lied to her about her parents accident and that she has been working on making the wrong drug all along (hence her crying during MT about not knowing that she never should have created Apotoxin 4869)... the shrinking side-effect is from Aptx4869, and the main effect of "Silver Bullet" is maybe something along the lines of immortality/youth/medical aid... Reveal hidden contents This is why she thinks, on Page 4 of File 948, "But what they..." (her parents) "wanted me to make... was another drug..." (Silver Bullet). The chances of Vermouth's current state being caused by Silver Bullet are going up, in my book... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serinox 127 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 On 2/17/2016 at 8:56 PM, DCUniverseAficionado said: Reveal hidden contents If Gosho said that the list (or, more likely, Koji Haneda's name, and, thus, himself) is a red herring, then maybe Asaka (who is evidently a woman) is... Reveal hidden contents I know Kor already wrote this on DCTP, but I'll write it here again for anyone who doesn't read that forum: the gender of Asaka is still unclear. The current English translation that is floating around uses "she/her" for Asaka, but there aren't any gender-definitive pronouns or anything of that like used in the Japanese text; in short: mistranslation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCUniverseAficionado 252 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 On 2/17/2016 at 10:08 PM, Serinox said: Reveal hidden contents I know Kor already wrote this on DCTP, but I'll write it here again for anyone who doesn't read that forum: the gender of Asaka is still unclear. The current English translation that is floating around uses "she/her" for Asaka, but there aren't any gender-definitive pronouns or anything of that like used in the Japanese text; in short: mistranslation. Reveal hidden contents If bash, presume, spimer and ALAKTORN (I don't know if he's(?) involved in manga translation) are your sources for this, then that's that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
