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Why would the Boss choose someone so clumsy to be the second in command of such a secretive agency?

 

To anyone saying this—I think it's far too early to make such a judgment. You can't just point out a single mistake that happens to be the story focus right now and essentially say, "Rum sucks! Here comes another disappointing arc!"

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  On 3/31/2016 at 5:55 PM, Chekhov MacGuffin said:
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  On 4/1/2016 at 11:48 PM, Uncle Sporkums said:

Well, the other arc disappointed me just as well. I was afraid of what would eventually happen in the Bourbon arc when Amuro was introduced.

You and anyone who might've known about the Gundam stuff and thought that Subaru was Shuichi and Masumi was his sister.

 

 

  On 4/1/2016 at 11:48 PM, Uncle Sporkums said:

I WILL NOT take back my statement.

I get why, but jumping the gun is jumping the gun. You're judging Rum before the character has probably even appeared because of one botch Rum made when he had two decades less experience, and we don't even know if Rum was No. 2 back then (not saying that's good/bad—it simply is what you're doing).

 

 

  On 4/2/2016 at 6:03 AM, EthanHunter said:
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955 text spoiler courtesy of Spimer:

 

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  On 4/2/2016 at 7:11 AM, DCUniverseAficionado said:

You and anyone who might've known about the Gundam stuff and thought that Subaru was Shuichi and Masumi was his sister.

 

 

I get why, but jumping the gun is jumping the gun. You're judging Rum before the character has probably even appeared because of one botch Rum made when he had two decades less experience, and we don't even know if Rum was No. 2 back then (not saying that's good/bad—it simply is what you're doing).

 

 

Yes, I DID know that. I just thought Gosho was beyond doing that. Doesn't matter at this point, I still hate it.

 

I FIGURED he wasn't the N2 by that point. It's inconstant that at least ONE of the more astute ones couldn't deduce the Mascara clue given the Boss' cautious and have Rum dealt with. This manga has faltered severely in my opinion with the Bourbon arc and I have a right to jump the gun if I please. I simply don't care for it any more.

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  On 4/2/2016 at 1:30 PM, Uncle Sporkums said:

It's inconstant that at least ONE of the more astute ones couldn't deduce the Mascara clue given the Boss' cautious and have Rum dealt with.

The difference between Rum messing up and Pisco messing up was that the latter, Kenzo Masuyama, had left both proof he committed murder AND proof of his identity (with that photo taken of him pointed his silence handgun at the ceiling). That's why Gin was ordered to eliminate him, because there was NO WAY OUT for him.

 

Rum only left proof that he committed the murder—no one ever found Asaka or traced him. Since the murders of Koji Haneda and Amanda Hughes are still cold cases, seventeen years later, there clearly WAS a way out.

 

Plus, Gosho said that there was a red herring in Volume 18. Clearly, he was referring to the APTX list, and considering the direction the manga is taking, Koji Haneda might be the red herring. Thus, I don't think Shinichi/Conan and Shuichi/Subaru can use this seventeen-year-old murder ALONE to figure out Rum's identity.

 

Now, as for Rum's BO standing, seventeen years ago, I'd say, at the very least, he was at the level of Rikumichi Kusuda. At most, he was at the level of Hidemi/Rena/Kir or Rei/Tooru/Bourbon.

 

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  On 4/2/2016 at 9:05 PM, Heliotropic said:
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  On 4/2/2016 at 11:19 PM, Serinox said:
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Ahh that is odd... and thanks for saving me the time of re-reading Scarlet  :P

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Some translations from presumenothing

 

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  On 4/4/2016 at 4:59 PM, Heliotropic said:
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  On 4/4/2016 at 5:11 AM, DCUniverseAficionado said:

 It is just under two weeks before it's release, after all—we don't have all the details yet. We're lucky to have any, because I don't think Movie 19 or any other DC movie before it had spoilers come out, this early.

 

The previous two had about the same amount of spoilers, its just that the spoilers weren't collected as well as they were this year. If you take into account that a majority of the Postcards and Animal Crossing hints, Super Digest Books, and Interviews weren't really collected all in one spot and properly translated until a round the beginning and middle of last year it makes a bit more sense. 

 

plus this year is an anniversary and a BO movie, so there is far more promotion and merch and things to splash a poster on, as well as voice actors appearing on talk shows, it does certainly seem like there is more. 

 

As for the extreme details on the DCTP forums, those were probably due to there being a special early screening of the movie, which Gosho mentioned in the AC hints, which also happened last year, but did not have a separate thread (as far as I remember).

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  On 4/4/2016 at 8:30 PM, jimmy-kud0-tv2 said:

The previous two had about the same amount of spoilers, its just that the spoilers weren't collected as well as they were this year. If you take into account that a majority of the Postcards and Animal Crossing hints, Super Digest Books, and Interviews weren't really collected all in one spot and properly translated until a round the beginning and middle of last year it makes a bit more sense. 

 

plus this year is an anniversary and a BO movie, so there is far more promotion and merch and things to splash a poster on, as well as voice actors appearing on talk shows, it does certainly seem like there is more. 

 

As for the extreme details on the DCTP forums, those were probably due to there being a special early screening of the movie, which Gosho mentioned in the AC hints, which also happened last year, but did not have a separate thread (as far as I remember).

Ah, so that's the explanation.

 

Thanks for letting me know! 

 

Hopefully, I'll remember this, and not ask next year, why Movie 21 (may) not have such early spoilers and (may) have less info, in general.  ^_^

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Since Vermouth said, "The one whose insights are second to none in the organisation, Bourbon", then Rum's specialty isn't insight or thinking like a detective? Then, Rum must have a specific skill set that is above even Vermouth's disguise-ability? Can such a thing even exist? Some combat skills? 

Also, this statement can help to declassify Mary as a  Rum possibility, if she ever was a candidate for Rum.

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