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The "fake" was probably that Gosho expected for us to think that Haneda Shuukichi is a survivor of APTX and that he is actually Kouji. But nobody really made that connection with certainty... :P

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  On 4/16/2016 at 10:40 AM, Hanfois said:

I don't think that's completely true,maybe ASACA is not RUM but She is related to RUM ,All these chapters would be a waste of time and We return to Zero point. At the worst case they will reach ASACA and know from her about RUM's identity (i highly suspect Mary to be ASACA in that case)

I didn't totally disregarded the two as related, simply that what Gosh-sama meant by 'fake' is the understatement that they are the same person. I do believe however, like you said Asaca will lead to Rum..Be it Asaca is Mary/ Father Akai or anyone else.. 

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Here are the 957 Text Spoilers from Spimer from DCTP:

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  On 4/16/2016 at 5:05 PM, DCUniverseAficionado said:
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Yeah yesterday in the spoiler chat I considered that possibility too, but that would mean next file something very drastic will happen out of nowhere, so I don't really think it will be Shinichi.

My bet is on Heiji, though I miss Kaito too :P

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  On 4/17/2016 at 12:24 AM, EthanHunter said:

Yeah yesterday in the spoiler chat I considered that possibility too, but that would mean next file something very drastic will happen out of nowhere, so I don't really think it will be Shinichi.

Could also be another flashback case with Shinichi, that would still technically be an appearance ^^

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  On 4/17/2016 at 2:33 AM, Serinox said:

Could also be another flashback case with Shinichi, that would still technically be an appearance ^^

 

And you don't mean the meeting Masumi flashback, I take it? You don't think we're getting it as soon as next week (or in two, if we have a break next week), right?

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  On 4/17/2016 at 4:36 AM, DCUniverseAficionado said:

And you don't mean the meeting Masumi flashback, I take it? You don't think we're getting it as soon as next week (or in two, if we have a break next week), right?

It may be, but it says famous detective, so it would be a bit weird to do a flashback to when he wasn't famous at all yet. So no, I don't mean that flashback and I honestly don't really think it will even be Shinichi who the side note means, I'm realistic enough for that (but I can still hope, right?). Well, heart says yes and brain says no ^^

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  On 4/17/2016 at 4:58 AM, Serinox said:

It may be, but it says famous detective, so it would be a bit weird to do a flashback to when he wasn't famous at all yet. So no, I don't mean that flashback and I honestly don't really think it will even be Shinichi who the side note means, I'm realistic enough for that (but I can still hope, right?). Well, heart says yes and brain says no ^^

 

So we're either looking at a Shinichi's First Case/Aquarium Murder-esque flashback, a Heiji case, or a case with Saguru (and perhaps Kid).

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  On 4/18/2016 at 3:33 AM, Heliotropic said:
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The side notes and the text on the cover pages are written by the editors though, not Gosho iirc, but even so, it would be a bit weird to refer to Kogoro in this manner, especially since he just had one of his nowadays rare Sleeping Kogoro appearances in 953.

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  On 4/18/2016 at 3:33 AM, Heliotropic said:
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It's nice to see a passionate but cunning one like Rei... Hopefully he can gain a better control over his emotions...

Heiji is too easily baited for me...  :lol:

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  On 4/18/2016 at 8:47 AM, Kurara-chan said:
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Chapters 906-908, the case with the three first discoverers.

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  On 4/18/2016 at 8:47 AM, Kurara-chan said:
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957 Spoiler Pics are out:

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4489113649

 

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957 is out:

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4489644409

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But seriously some info about the file with translations by Black Demon and presumenothing:

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  On 4/12/2016 at 7:54 PM, Chekhov MacGuffin said:

Edit: One thing I forgot is that many people are accusing Amuro of irrationally hanging on to his resentment after finding out Akai didn't kill Scotch in cold blood because Amuro now thinks that Akai could have gotten Scotch out of the situation alive. While I don't disagree about Amuro being rather unreasonable, remember Akai did pull off a fabulous fake death plan so Amuro's frustration is sort of justified. Amuro just doesn't know Conan was the mastermind. Sometimes people just become hysterical when someone they deeply care about dies, and unfortunately Gosho seems portray the feeling ham-handedly to the detriment of the likability of the character. Jodie's complete loss of composure, independence, and detective skill when Akai died is a prime example.

Amuro most definitely is aware that Conan is the master mind behind Akai's fake death. Because, when he goes to meet Okiya at his house, he says that what Akai said was, "Who ... would have thought that it would come to this." and he points out to Okiya, that what Akai meant to say was, "Who, but him, would have thought that it would come to this. Those were words of admiration for that boy, the one who put it together" and he thinks about Conan. So, yes he knows about Conan's intellect, but no, Amuro isn't being too irrational in his resentment. He feels that since Akai knew about Scotch's real identity, he could have really tried to save him - to stop him from taking his own life, but even standing right in front of him, he is unable to do much about it. He probably doesn't realise that the sound of his footsteps could have triggered Scotch's reaction. 

 

Hopefully, in the next 50 chapters somewhere, we will see the talk between Conan and Okiya occurring about Conan's identity and Akai's dad. And hopefully about his mom too. Wonder though if Akai and Sera will talk. Seems like he wants to hide it from even them that he's alive.

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Oookaaayy... looks like Vermouth's 2 treasures are Shinichi/Conan and Ran.

 

Who here thinks that she'll die betraying the Organization and successfully protecting Conan and Ran? Conan is a huge threat and she had let him live several times by now, and she is totally unwilling to drag any more of her former acquaintances (like Yukiko) to her mess...

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  On 4/19/2016 at 5:15 PM, moonlightluna said:

Oookaaayy... looks like Vermouth's 2 treasures are Shinichi/Conan and Ran.

 

Who here thinks that she'll die betraying the Organization and successfully protecting Conan and Ran? Conan is a huge threat and she had let him live several times by now, and she is totally unwilling to drag any more of her former acquaintances (like Yukiko) to her mess...

She will definitely go against the BO but I don't think she'll die, probs just take on a new identity

(I don't think gosho will kill off anyone important who's a good guy)

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  On 4/18/2016 at 4:36 PM, Chekhov MacGuffin said:
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  On 4/20/2016 at 5:59 AM, EthanHunter said:
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Since the chapters are out.. OK so we know that Vermouth's only 'treasures' are Ran and Shinichi, just to what extent does she hates the Org. She is obedient but acts to her own thoughts, hated by most members, and have a relationship to Anokata. So Anokata is no 'treasure' of her, meaning she is more of a family member mostly a sister or daughter more than anything (assuming human cloning is not probable in DC)..

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  On 4/21/2016 at 11:19 AM, MeiTanteixX said:
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