AnimeOtakuDrew 18 Report post Posted September 24, 2016 Okay, so I have been watching through everything Conan (currently up to episode 730) and I have noticed something of a pattern. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that nearly everyone that is trying to bring down the Black Organization has some personal reason for doing so. Jodie-sensei's father was killed by the Organization. Haibara/Miyano Shiho's sister (And possibly her parents as well) was killed by them. Andre Camel is dedicated to Akai after blowing his cover in the Organization, and Wil thus do anything to help him stop them. Hondou Hidemi's father died because of the Organization (even though they didn't directly kill him). And Conan, of course, was poisoned by them and reverted to a child's body. The most notable omissions from that list are James Black (who I have a theory about, though I won't get into it here) and Akai Shuichi. But why does Akai want so badly to take down the Black Organization? Well, let's start by looking at the facts. The FBI' s search for the Organization is unofficial. What does that mean to this discussion? Well, since it's not an official operation, Akai couldn't have simply been assigned to the case. For him to be this deeply involved in a case that he wasn't assigned to, it has to be personal. Next, Sera Masumi is Akai's sister. How is this relevant to Akai's connection to the Organization? Well, Sera seems to know Conan's secret even though she has never been told and is not at all shocked by or disbelieving of the idea that the high school detective has been somehow turned into a child, meaning she must have seen something similar before. The prevalent theory seems to be that the mysterious Mary (whom I actually have yet to see, though I know about through accidentally reading some spoilers) is Sera's mother, and presumably Akai's. The most commonly cited evidence is that Sera calls her Mama. It also seems as though Sera and Mary on on the run (according to those same spoilers I mentioned before). But why? This is where everything comes together to form one theory. Is it possible that Mary was formerly associated with the Black Organization? Perhaps she betrayed them, or simply outlived her usefulness, and they decided to eliminate her. What if, to do so, they gave Mary APTX-4869, or an earlier form of the drug, but rather than killing her, it reverted her to a child's body just like Conan and Haibara? It is commonly accepted that APTX-4869's de-aging side effect reverts a person specifically to a child's body, rather than just knocking off 10 years. If we figure that, like Conan and Haibara, Mary was made to appear about 7 years old by the drug, and assume that aging would happen normally from that point, it can be deduced that Mary was given the drug about 5-6 years before the present story, as she now appears to be about 12 or 13. The timing of this is important because it is the key to everything. After being poisoned by the Organization, Mary goes to her family, most likely out of fear that the Organization will harm them as well. Akai then has Sera and their mother go into hiding while he goes after the Organization to stop them and/or get revenge for their attempted murder of his mother (btw, do we know what happened to the father? Is it possible that he too was killed by the Organization?). Why is the timing important? Because after those events, Akai needs time to find and get close to the Organization to infiltrate them (remember, the Black Organization is supposed to be a secret criminal syndicate that nobody outside of their own membership knows about, so such a group would be very difficult to find). Perhaps he was already FBI at the time his mother was poisoned, or perhaps he joined so he could make use of their resources to aid in his search, t which time he learned about other agents bearing a personal vendetta against the Organization. Either way, with the help of the FBI, Akai was finally able to track them down and gain their trust enough to join (though the events with agent Camel show they still felt it necessary to test him). From that point, events played out as we have seen on the show. So, in short, my theory is an extension of the "Mary was poisoned by the Organization" theory, stating that the poisoning of his mother is the reason Akai is so dedicated to bringing down the Black Organization. What do you guys think? Plausible? Possible? Let me know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
detConShin 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2016 Before going into anything else, how do you know that the FBI's search for the organisation is unofficial? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnimeOtakuDrew 18 Report post Posted September 24, 2016 It was stated when Conan found out that Jodie-sensei was FBI. She asked him not to tell anyone about her involvement because it was unofficial and thus (technically) an illegal investigation. It was restated in the case when Andre Camel was a suspect. Jodie showed up and told Megure that Camel was FBI and made up the story about him being her lover and them being on vacation together because revealing that they were investigating in Japan without the knowledge or approval of the government might cause international conflict. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
detConShin 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2016 well that was because the FBI are conducting an illegal investigation, since they have not got the permission of the Japanese authorities. That does not mean that the FBI does not approve of this investigation, therefore the word "unofficial" creates ambiguity . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnimeOtakuDrew 18 Report post Posted September 24, 2016 Perhaps I misunderstood something, but I thought it was stated the Black Organization case was unofficial. There was a little bit on that in the thread "BO' s existence" (where I described my theory about James Black). I am actually still not 100% convinced that the investigation into the Black Organization isn't officially sanctioned by the FBI. I think James Black had too many agents at his disposal in the Red and Black arc for it to be so, I only stated it that way because (from what I've seen), that seems to be the common consensus. And really, whether the investigation is official or not is completely off the point of this topic. What I am asking in this thread is whether it is possible and plausible that the reason Akai is after the Organization is because they tried to kill his mother. The official status of the FBI investigation into the Black Organization has nothing to do with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy-kud0-tv2 34 Report post Posted September 24, 2016 Warning spoilers for content that has not been put in the anime (avoiding some details on purpose) Shuichi Akai's reason for becoming an FBI agent is because of his father's connection to a case that happened 17 years ago. Rum was also present during that case. Shortly after, Akai's father sent a text message to his family telling them to flee the UK to the safety of Japan because he had made some enemies. Rather then going to Japan with his mother and younger brother (Masumi wasn't born yet, but still in her mother's belly), Akai went to the US to investigate his father's disappearance. The mother is convinced of the father's death, however Akai states that a body was never found. So over the course of 7 years in the US, Akai goes to college, gets a green card and begins the process of becoming an FBI agent, however it would take another 3 years for him to get the work experience needed to apply. At a point 10 years ago, Akai was back in Japan with his family, due to being called back by his mother but was still investigating the disappearance of his father, and the mother wasn't shrunk yet. We still don't know when the mother shrunk, but it was with-in the last 10 years. 17 years ago - Case where the Father made enemies and disappeared, Family goes to Japan, Akai goes to US 16 years ago - Masumi born 10 years ago - Family reunites, Akai meets Masumi for first time (Mother is still in adult body) 7 years ago - after 3 years work experience Akai is able to take the exam to enter the FBI 5 years ago - Akai enters the BO undercover, through relationship with Akemi 4 years ago - Masumi encounters Akai in Japan, while he is on a BO mission (future episode 836-837 information, 15th and 22nd of Oct) We are still learning about the Akai father, very little is confirmed, but the most recent case finally gave him a face as of this morning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
detConShin 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2016 I asked out of curiosity. Anyways on the topic, the Kohji Haneda case has something to do with it and Akai clearly states that it was because of that case that he joined the FBI. The current Manga case is perhaps gonna reveal some more details about Akai and his family. If Akai does know about Mary's shrinking it would definitely be one of his motivations, but I am sure there is more to it. The Kohji Haneda case involved the second highest authority of the organisation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy-kud0-tv2 34 Report post Posted September 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, detConShin said: I asked out of curiosity. Anyways on the topic, case 17 years ago has something to do with it. The current Manga case is perhaps gonna reveal some more details about Akai and his family. If Akai does know about Mary's shrinking it would definitely be one of his motivations, but I am sure there is more to it. The case 17 years ago involved the second highest authority of the organisation. those are spoilers, also the spoilers for the current case are out if you are interested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites