Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted April 23, 2011 @Chelseaj500 Your guess is not bad at all! but you will be surprised when the solution comes up @ Orangeburst You are almost there!! keep it up. the title is actually more like a clue to solve this case not the sis;; but it does make sense. @Detective Kudo Q&A 1. Wife, Fiance, it doesn't really matter..or does it? I actually got this from a church member 3 years ago. it's been my favorite ever since. Q&A 2. Nah i just made it so that it sounds more like DCW.. *Reads your Deduction* I am speechless.... well, you are the detective in the story I heard you are the greatest of the DCW so this is a challenge for you! Ok, if you(not mentioned above) read the the Detective Kudo's comment. HERE IS THE LAST HINT! MWAHAHAHAHA*Haack cough cough* ok i should stop doing that.. but anyways... the last hint is ... *Drum roll* "The Book" well this might not be the last, but i'm pretty sure someone will solve it soon enough. This mystery is my favorite! I've known this one for 3 years!(mentioned above) The Answer will be revealed @ around 9pm (Pacific Time)! unless some one *cough* Detective Kudo *cough* solves it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detective Kudo 28 Report post Posted April 23, 2011 i meant to change my deduction before you answered my question If my deduction was wrong then this should do it, its all three of them. Here is what happened... the number three was used so much and God was mentioned because, he was referring to the trinity (the Godhead) when he said him he was talking about the three above playing God. I was intending to ask you could their be more than one culprit. This also explains the title and because he was a pastor this was the first thing to come to mind. Blame them playing God. The note was written 3 days before his death. Along with the hint "the book" i thnk referring to the bible, i can come up with no other conclusion. They all may be in his will (this is why i asked was she his fiance or wife)they can split the money and live better lives. If my deduction above was wrong this is the only thing left that makes sense.It answers all of the questions in my head Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hopes 237 Report post Posted April 23, 2011 Alright... I have no idea. Never mind. I just read DK's deduction and I don't want to steal his idea. I'll just watch and wait... watch and wait... :mellow: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raoku 1 Report post Posted April 23, 2011 what he said makes sense although it raises the question of why he called his sister sis in the note Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted April 23, 2011 @Detective Kudo Your deductions are really good. (I'm jealous) I haven't even thought of that when I was solving it!(it does make sense, really!) You are so close to solving this case. (Don't let that number 3 fool you.) well, there is only one murderer, and there will be a very good reason why later today. But, well, you really don't have to know the bible really well. (not THAT much) If you have one, you should check it out! (That's how I solved it) This is a mystery I heard learned from a church member 3 years ago. (He is also DC fan in Korea now. Lost contact though Q_Q.) @Raoku & Chelseaj500 Wait ~5 hours and you'll see. This is a though nut to crack after all. Took me a whole week Well, this will make it a bit easier to solve this 1. Read the note out loud carefully. 2. Do you notice something that relates to bible? 3. Don't think too much. To be honest, this took me the whole week to solve it... so take your time! :twisted: Answer will come after 4~6 hours. :twisted: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hopes 237 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 I have done what you said!! And this is what I've uncovered: First: Why was he in a hotel 3 MILES from his HOUSE?? That's suspicious. What reason did he have to going to the hotel? To meet someone? A maid discovered him. Why was she in that room? About to clean it because she thought it was empty? Or was he a customer? Second: Why was he PEACEFULLY laid on the bed? If the poison had really destroyed his internal organs, wouldn't he have been in pain, even if it was for an instant? And how was he given the poison if he was lying on the bed? Someone must have laid him there. He's only seventeen, correct? Well, what happened to his parents? Did they die? Seems a little early... Also, there's no information about his 'soon to be wife'. Just that he was to be married soon. Who is the fiancee? Another thing. On the note, it says 'Jan 04/2009'. Why wouldn't January be in numbers like the others? '01/04/2009'. Why is Jenna a 'loved one' and someone he 'trusts'? It would be his sister-in-law, but still... I don't think they would be THAT close. Why is Jenna listed first in the letter? Wouldn't it make more sense to be 'Sis, John, Jenna'? And 'why I did leave you'? That wording sounds strange... And in the ending, it seems that 'mourn my death' and 'please move on' could fit on the same line... That's how I break it down. Just little pieces I thought were strange. I was thinking about who the criminal is... Now I'm not so sure. But I have reasons for motivation, and they might be strange... Anyway. If Jenna was a 'loved one' and one of the only people he 'trusts'. Also, she was listed first. And there's no information on her. I just think it strange. I think maybe they were having an affair and either Jenna killed him because of the fiancee or John killed his brother because of the affair. Or maybe, Jenna was a scientist who worked with him. Just possibilities. Well, that's basically it!! I CAN'T WAIT TO FIND OUT WHO IT WAS!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, let's Break that down there... Why was he in a hotel 3 MILES from his HOUSE?? That's suspicious. Just to make some story in to it. It's usually boring if things are missed out. Imagine DC solving the case right away.... not very much fun is it? What reason did he have to going to the hotel? To meet someone? If u seen what Kudo said, it would be more clear. His deductions are very good. (I'm jealous) A maid discovered him. Why was she in that room? About to clean it because she thought it was empty? Or was he a customer? again, just a part of story.... Why was he PEACEFULLY laid on the bed? If the poison had really destroyed his internal organs, wouldn't he have been in pain, even if it was for an instant? I just made things up so that it would be more fun rather than boring, also i wanted to be DCW related... And how was he given the poison if he was lying on the bed? Someone must have laid him there. He was injected with poison. And again, Part of story. if someone carried the body, it would have been witnessed, btw. He's only seventeen, correct? Well, what happened to his parents? Did they die? Seems a little early... Also, there's no information about his 'soon to be wife'. Just that he was to be married soon. Who is the fiancee? Again, Just part of story, and the person who died is me... my parents are busy working until late night.. rest are just part of story... Another thing. On the note, it says 'Jan 04/2009'. Why wouldn't January be in numbers like the others? '01/04/2009'. Why is Jenna a 'loved one' and someone he 'trusts'? It would be his sister-in-law, but still... I don't think they would be THAT close. Why is Jenna listed first in the letter? Wouldn't it make more sense to be 'Sis, John, Jenna'? And 'why I did leave you'? That wording sounds strange... And in the ending, it seems that 'mourn my death' and 'please move on' could fit on the same line... Very good observations. though the structure of letter don't matter.. or does it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hopes 237 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, let's Break that down there... Why was he in a hotel 3 MILES from his HOUSE?? That's suspicious. Just to make some story in to it. It's usually boring if things are missed out. Imagine DC solving the case right away.... not very much fun is it? What reason did he have to going to the hotel? To meet someone? If u seen what Kudo said, it would be more clear. His deductions are very good. (I'm jealous) A maid discovered him. Why was she in that room? About to clean it because she thought it was empty? Or was he a customer? again, just a part of story.... Why was he PEACEFULLY laid on the bed? If the poison had really destroyed his internal organs, wouldn't he have been in pain, even if it was for an instant? I just made things up so that it would be more fun rather than boring, also i wanted to be DCW related... And how was he given the poison if he was lying on the bed? Someone must have laid him there. He was injected with poison. And again, Part of story. if someone carried the body, it would have been witnessed, btw. He's only seventeen, correct? Well, what happened to his parents? Did they die? Seems a little early... Also, there's no information about his 'soon to be wife'. Just that he was to be married soon. Who is the fiancee? Again, Just part of story, and the person who died is me... my parents are busy working until late night.. rest are just part of story... Another thing. On the note, it says 'Jan 04/2009'. Why wouldn't January be in numbers like the others? '01/04/2009'. Why is Jenna a 'loved one' and someone he 'trusts'? It would be his sister-in-law, but still... I don't think they would be THAT close. Why is Jenna listed first in the letter? Wouldn't it make more sense to be 'Sis, John, Jenna'? And 'why I did leave you'? That wording sounds strange... And in the ending, it seems that 'mourn my death' and 'please move on' could fit on the same line... Very good observations. though the structure of letter don't matter.. or does it? Wow. So basically most of my deductions had nothing to do with it. Hooray!! CAN'T YOU JUST REVEAL THE ANSWER?? PLEASE!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 Participants so far, Detective Kudo Raoku Chelseaj500 OrangeBurst Strike through means gave up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detective Kudo 28 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 Don't reveal anything, that was funny, but i realize what its saying now it says Genesis, John. It refers to the bible. Genesis means beginning in the Greek meaning, in the Hebrew it translates "in the beginning." John is a book of the bible that starts off similarly. "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God." It later talks about John bearing witness of the word made flesh (Jesus) I'm still a little unsure as to if this signifies John being our culprit or the first to be mentioned in the letter Jenna? So give me a little more time with this 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raoku 1 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 so everything you need to know about who did it is in the note i think i know who it is the only thing i found out from it is that if u read the first line u get is if u say Jenna, Sis out loud you get the Genesis, which means the beginning or the first Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 (edited) Ahh looks like we still got competition, sorry Chelseaj500, u'll hav to wait... Yes that is correct Raoku. Kudo, you are the detective in the story, so SOLVE IT! hee hee... :mrgreen: Edit: Forgot to Say, Kudo, you impress me very much. I'm Jealous LOL/ Edited April 24, 2011 by Anti-APTX4869 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raoku 1 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 im not going to need a bible to solve this am i Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detective Kudo 28 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 Here is what I'm thinking John is probably our culprit, here is why...I'm guessing he is our victims twin. He was with him from the beginning, helped him throughout his life and helped him create what he created like "the word". He probably got jealous of his brothers success and he never got a cut. So with one of the drugs they created killed him. He probably said something like this"come to (blank hotel) rent a room and show me your new drug you created." He did and when he put his brother to sleep with chloroform and injected him with the poison. His brother woke up and with his last ounce of strength wrote his dying message and still drowsy fell asleep. The maid service came at the time he should have checked out and found him dead. Then called the Police. Where Kudo came to solve it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raoku 1 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 Here is what I'm thinking John is probably our culprit, here is why...I'm guessing he is our victims twin. He was with him from the beginning, helped him throughout his life and helped him create what he created like "the word". He probably got jealous of his brothers success and he never got a cut. So with one of the drugs they created killed him. He probably said something like this"come to (blank hotel) rent a room and show me your new drug you created." He did and when he put his brother to sleep with chloroform and injected him with the poison. His brother woke up and with his last ounce of strength wrote his dying message and still drowsy fell asleep. The maid service came at the time he should have checked out and found him dead. Then called the Police. Where Kudo came to solve it. sound reasonable but would his body be in a peaceful manner given what the poison does for that matter we have no idea what his brothers company is or does, that being said he'd have to have written it before hand because it is mentioned that the poison is instant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 Well, John is it. The reasoning part is the most difficult unless you know the bible like a pastor. should I just let it out since Kudo solved it? His reasoning makes sense also.... I'm jelly of Kudo. lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detective Kudo 28 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 sound reasonable but would his body be in a peaceful manner given what the poison does for that matter we have no idea what his brothers company is or does, that being said he'd have to have written it before hand because it is mentioned that the poison is instant. i believe it said 3 hours, but that could have been wrong @ Anti-APTX4869, I'm fine with that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raoku 1 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 i believe it said 3 hours, but that could have been wrong @ Anti-APTX4869, I'm fine with that it said destroyed 3 hours before being found Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 If you can't wait for the answer, look here, If you dont want to get spoiled and try to solve it, don't look. I HOPE YOU ALL *Cough* 4 *Cough* HAD A GOOD TIME! SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER John, his brother, was the murderer. The 4:10 AM didn't refer to the time, but rather, referred to the bible passage, Genesis 4:10, which is an excerpt from the story of Cain & Abel, where the envious Cain kills his brother, Abel. Many things point to this. AM referred to the Old Testament.(in time= AM,PM; in bible= Old Testament, New Testament ) In the note, Yohan, being a Pastor, said to search for God to determine who killed him with "Seek Him if you want to know why I did leave you", which refers to the Bible. Furthermore, he intentionally did not mention the name of his Sister, Judy, when he noted "Jenna, Sis", which sounds like "Genesis". (<-- You guys are awesome getting this part!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detective Kudo 28 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 Hooray! that was fun, and when i fully got it, funny :-D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 Yes Funny,yet Very difficult. I have an easy one but thats way too easy. you can solve it in a flash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hopes 237 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 HEY!! Whoever said I gave up?? Argh. Well, I was wrong. BUT I NEVER GAVE UP!! I just said I wanted to know the answer... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raoku 1 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 isnt that giving up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anti-APTX4869 181 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 Hmm now i'm waiting for Kudo(or som1) to post a new one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IdentityUnknown 216 Report post Posted April 24, 2011 *waits patiently* DK would probably be best at this. I know a few riddles, but they're all either simple or can be searched up on the net in about 2 seconds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
