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:I am not too happy with [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/index.php?title=Shuichi_Akai&diff=169727&oldid=169720 how this was changed]. The first problem is that there is now a lot of plot blow by blow about a particular case that is not appropriate for this section. I'm also not happy about the phrasing that makes it sound like Shuichi's disinterest in Masumi justified by him being in a bad mood. People with normal social functioning don't just coldly ignore their child sister they are meeting for the first time, bad mood or not. The rephrasing also whitewashed the fact that Shuuichi got into a physical fight with his Mom because they failed to communicate their intentions to each other. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''<font color="#B22222">Chekhov</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">MacGuffin</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''<font color="#696969">talk</font>''']]</sup> 08:04, 1 October 2016 (CEST) | :I am not too happy with [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/index.php?title=Shuichi_Akai&diff=169727&oldid=169720 how this was changed]. The first problem is that there is now a lot of plot blow by blow about a particular case that is not appropriate for this section. I'm also not happy about the phrasing that makes it sound like Shuichi's disinterest in Masumi justified by him being in a bad mood. People with normal social functioning don't just coldly ignore their child sister they are meeting for the first time, bad mood or not. The rephrasing also whitewashed the fact that Shuuichi got into a physical fight with his Mom because they failed to communicate their intentions to each other. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''<font color="#B22222">Chekhov</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">MacGuffin</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''<font color="#696969">talk</font>''']]</sup> 08:04, 1 October 2016 (CEST) | ||
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+ | Even though he means well, Shuichi is notably clumsy at trying to comfort and connect with others. He is especially dense at recognizing the motives behind the feelings of others and thus how to modify his own behavior to improve relations. As [[Subaru Okiya]], his technique to approach [[Ai Haibara]] leaves her terrified of him, and repeated contact only intensifies her loathing. Ten years ago, he was also cold to young Masumi on their first meeting, brushing Masumi's silly antics aside without realizing that she simply wanted him to smile and treat her kindly, though he most likely was simply in a bad mood, since he just had an intense argument with his mother, in which they traded physical blows, because of his plan to join the FBI after his studies to pursue the case of his father and because he had lied to her about that. Later that day, during the investigation of a case, Shuichi gives both Shinichi and Ran a task to help with the investigation, so Masumi approaches Shuichi shyly and asks for a task as well. Now Shuichi responds kindly and gives her a task that makes her feel important.<br> | ||
+ | Despite his social awkwardness, Shuichi is not unempathetic; he gives Jodie some hope by leaving her a message in his own handwriting, and leaves her a very roundabout hint about his identity after knocking her down even though he cannot reveal the truth to her yet. Eventually he also realized that Masumi was looking up to him, so he began to send her videos of him doing Jeet Kune Do. | ||
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+ | :I am not too happy with [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/index.php?title=Shuichi_Akai&diff=169727&oldid=169720 how this was changed]. The first problem is that there is now a lot of plot blow by blow about a particular case that is not appropriate for this section. I'm also not happy about the phrasing that makes it sound like Shuichi's disinterest in Masumi justified by him being in a bad mood. People with normal social functioning don't just coldly ignore their child sister they are meeting for the first time, bad mood or not. The rephrasing also whitewashed the fact that Shuuichi got into a physical fight with his Mom because they failed to communicate their intentions to each other. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''<font color="#B22222">Chekhov</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">MacGuffin</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''<font color="#696969">talk</font>''']]</sup> 08:24, 1 October 2016 (CEST) |
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Age
Where in the case was it said that he was 11 y/o when Kohji died? I couldn't find that part. --- Black ★ Demon 10:25, 24 February 2016 (CET)
I think the Personality section changes weren't too good.
Even though he means well, Shuichi is notably clumsy at trying to comfort and connect with others. He is especially dense at recognizing the motives behind the feelings of others and thus how to modify his own behavior to improve relations. As Subaru Okiya, his technique to approach Ai Haibara leaves her terrified of him, and repeated contact only intensifies her loathing. Ten years ago, he was also cold to young Masumi on their first meeting, brushing Masumi's silly antics aside without realizing that she simply wanted him to smile and treat her kindly, though he most likely was simply in a bad mood, since he just had an intense argument with his mother, in which they traded physical blows, because of his plan to join the FBI after his studies to pursue the case of his father and because he had lied to her about that. Later that day, during the investigation of a case, Shuichi gives both Shinichi and Ran a task to help with the investigation, so Masumi approaches Shuichi shyly and asks for a task as well. Now Shuichi responds kindly and gives her a task that makes her feel important.
Despite his social awkwardness, Shuichi is not unempathetic; he gives Jodie some hope by leaving her a message in his own handwriting, and leaves her a very roundabout hint about his identity after knocking her down even though he cannot reveal the truth to her yet. Eventually he also realized that Masumi was looking up to him, so he began to send her videos of him doing Jeet Kune Do.
- I am not too happy with how this was changed. The first problem is that there is now a lot of plot blow by blow about a particular case that is not appropriate for this section. I'm also not happy about the phrasing that makes it sound like Shuichi's disinterest in Masumi justified by him being in a bad mood. People with normal social functioning don't just coldly ignore their child sister they are meeting for the first time, bad mood or not. The rephrasing also whitewashed the fact that Shuuichi got into a physical fight with his Mom because they failed to communicate their intentions to each other. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 08:04, 1 October 2016 (CEST)
I don't think the Personality section changes were accurate.
Even though he means well, Shuichi is notably clumsy at trying to comfort and connect with others. He is especially dense at recognizing the motives behind the feelings of others and thus how to modify his own behavior to improve relations. As Subaru Okiya, his technique to approach Ai Haibara leaves her terrified of him, and repeated contact only intensifies her loathing. Ten years ago, he was also cold to young Masumi on their first meeting, brushing Masumi's silly antics aside without realizing that she simply wanted him to smile and treat her kindly, though he most likely was simply in a bad mood, since he just had an intense argument with his mother, in which they traded physical blows, because of his plan to join the FBI after his studies to pursue the case of his father and because he had lied to her about that. Later that day, during the investigation of a case, Shuichi gives both Shinichi and Ran a task to help with the investigation, so Masumi approaches Shuichi shyly and asks for a task as well. Now Shuichi responds kindly and gives her a task that makes her feel important.
Despite his social awkwardness, Shuichi is not unempathetic; he gives Jodie some hope by leaving her a message in his own handwriting, and leaves her a very roundabout hint about his identity after knocking her down even though he cannot reveal the truth to her yet. Eventually he also realized that Masumi was looking up to him, so he began to send her videos of him doing Jeet Kune Do.
- I am not too happy with how this was changed. The first problem is that there is now a lot of plot blow by blow about a particular case that is not appropriate for this section. I'm also not happy about the phrasing that makes it sound like Shuichi's disinterest in Masumi justified by him being in a bad mood. People with normal social functioning don't just coldly ignore their child sister they are meeting for the first time, bad mood or not. The rephrasing also whitewashed the fact that Shuuichi got into a physical fight with his Mom because they failed to communicate their intentions to each other. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 08:24, 1 October 2016 (CEST)