Talk:Canon

Sanctioned Guidebooks

We should probably give a mention to the sanctioned guidebooks. They are, as far as I know...

• Detective Conan Mystery Museum (1997)
• Detective Conan's Mystery Academy (1997)
• Conan the Movie Perfect Guide (2001)
• Conan Drill: Decipherment of the Conan (2003)
• Gosho Aoyama the Complete Color Works 1994-2002 (2003)
• Love Conan (2004)
• Detective Conan vs. Kid the Phantom Thief (2004)
• Detective Conan: Strategy Above the Depths Official Fanbook (2005)
• Detective Conan 10 Years Cinema Guide (2006)
• Detective Conan the Movie: All Character Record (2007)
• Love Conan the Movie (2007)
• Love Conan the Movie (2008)
• Love Conan the Movie (2009)

Some of them are anime and movie related, and others I don;t know much about, but I know Conan Drill is a manga guide. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 23:02, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

I own Detective Conan vs Kaitou Kid Perfect Edition. It's just a compilation of Kid related chapters from Detective Conan plus the inclusion of the Clock Tower heist. There is however an interview with Aoyama on page 169. The 2010 edition presumably contains the same stories. I'll type up the interview when I have a chance to post into the interviews topic on the forum. Maybe justwantanaccount would be gracious enough to translate it for us.

I saw the post on DCTP in regards to the list of sanctioned guidebooks, but did Jd- ever mention where he found that Aoyama sanctioned these particular ones?--Skyechan 01:43, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps because these are the ones published by Shogakukan? The Love Conans, the Drill, and Movie Perfect Guide are all Shogakukan I think. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 02:13, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

They are, but I'm not sure about using that as proof. I wish we had an actual source of Aoyama saying he approves those specific guidebooks. :/ --Skyechan 03:24, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Maybe if someone did some translation they could find out the info. There is an intro to the Conan Drill that might be relevant. That's the one I am most interested in because of the stuff it says in relation to the manga canon. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 03:35, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit, so I was going back through some old convos, and we may have to be careful about the official confirmation. The Love Conans may be fanbooks published by Shogakukan. I guess individual verification is the key here. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 04:05, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

I don´t think fans can decide what canon is and what not. As long as something is official it might be canon, as long as the creator doesn´t say otherwhise. Compare it to let´s say Batman. Batman´s creator died 20 years ago, does that make all later Batman comics uncanon? No.--As1990 (talk) 13:50, 25 May 2017 (CEST)

Batman is an entirely different set of circumstances. DC comics dictates what is canon to their characters and not everything in each individual comic carries over into his appearances/ cameos in other comics and not everything in those crossovers makes it back into the main series. Also DC comics writes like 2-3 different alternate universes at the same time and only one of the series' is usually the main series to follow for the Universe continuity. Also DC completely reboots all of their comic characters back to their origin stories every once in a while, so arguably the current Batman comics aren't canon to the original Batman comics from when he first created because they are simply a different universe in their multiverse. But the current Batman comics are still canon to the main DC comic line as it runs today.

As for Detective Conan, the original writer is still alive and still writing the original version of his content. The only content that has any bearing on the plot of the original version of the story, is what appears in the original version of the story. The manga is not going to suddenly make a direct reference to one of the movies, tv original episodes, or specials simply because they did not happen in the original content. If the original author does decide to bring minor things into his content, then it does become canon, but every time Gosho Aoyama has done this so far, he has reintroduced it as if it is appearing for the first time. For example, Yamamura got promoted to Inspector for the purposes of appearing in Movie 13: The Raven Chaser. This did carry over into the manga but it had to be reintroduced so that the readers who don't see the movies would actually notice it. It also appeared in the anime, but it appeared in the anime in a different case than it did in the manga. This event happened three different times during three completely different occasions, so which one is the most canon version? It should be what the original author wrote, because that version is the only version that matters to the ending of the comic (not that it will probably matter much though). --Jimmy-kud0-tv2 (talk) 14:45, 25 May 2017 (CEST)

Film 2

While watching the second movie, I noticed that some characters did not know Megure and Agasa's first names before. Was it actually their first mention or did the manga do it first ?HerlockSholmes (talk) 22:30, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

I am not really sure, but most of the time in the manga they were known as Professor Agasa and Inspector Megure, so seems that Movie 2 is where their first name was mentioned.--Jefflie (talk) 00:04, 28 March 2022 (UTC)