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[[Shinichi Kudo]] and [[Kaito Kuroba]], the current [[Kaitou Kid]], are rivals and occasional allies. Shinichi, as the shrunken [[Conan Edogawa]], and Kaitou Kid primarily interact during heists. Kaitou Kid, whose goal is to find the gem [[Pandora]], challenges jewel owners expecting [[Conan Edogawa]] to show up and try to uncover his tricks and unmask him. [[Conan Edogawa]] uses his wits and [[gadgets]] to protect the gems and attempt to unmask Kaitou Kid. Although Conan sometimes manages to stop Kid from escaping with the gems, Conan has never succeeded in completely outwitting Kid and revealing his true identity. | [[Shinichi Kudo]] and [[Kaito Kuroba]], the current [[Kaitou Kid]], are rivals and occasional allies. Shinichi, as the shrunken [[Conan Edogawa]], and Kaitou Kid primarily interact during heists. Kaitou Kid, whose goal is to find the gem [[Pandora]], challenges jewel owners expecting [[Conan Edogawa]] to show up and try to uncover his tricks and unmask him. [[Conan Edogawa]] uses his wits and [[gadgets]] to protect the gems and attempt to unmask Kaitou Kid. Although Conan sometimes manages to stop Kid from escaping with the gems, Conan has never succeeded in completely outwitting Kid and revealing his true identity. | ||
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In the manga, Kid and [[Conan Edogawa|Conan]] are rivals. Ever since Kaito met Conan, Kaito always seems to be anticipating Conan's appearance at his heists. Conan makes the heists more interesting for Kaito, while Conan views Kaito's heists as entertainment. The two teen's current rivalry is a foil of their parents' similar past rivalry; [[Toichi Kuroba]], the first Kaitou Kid, was known to challenge [[Yusaku Kudo]]. | In the manga, Kid and [[Conan Edogawa|Conan]] are rivals. Ever since Kaito met Conan, Kaito always seems to be anticipating Conan's appearance at his heists. Conan makes the heists more interesting for Kaito, while Conan views Kaito's heists as entertainment. The two teen's current rivalry is a foil of their parents' similar past rivalry; [[Toichi Kuroba]], the first Kaitou Kid, was known to challenge [[Yusaku Kudo]]. | ||
| − | Conan is usually a serious threat to Kid's plans and stops Kid often enough from escaping with the jewel that Conan has gained reputation in the press as Kid's "natural enemy". In several instances Conan appears to be able to 'sense' Kid's presence; knowing Kid is close by often causes Conan to behave far more frenetically. Appropriately, Kid seems to find Conan dangerous enough to warrant specific measures to keep the boy distracted. Conan does not seem to like Kid, saying once "He's only a thief that uses magic".<ref>Anime Episode 515: Kaitou Kid's Teleportation Magic</ref> However, if necessary, the two can put their rivalry aside (for a little while) and work together.<ref>[[Kaitou Kid and the Four Masterpieces]]</ref> Conan has something of a gentleman's agreement with Kaitou Kid that he won't look for the thief outside of heists. In several instances, beginning with the "Big Adventure in the Eccentric Residence" case, when Kid does Conan/Shinichi a favor, such as saving Genta's life in the aforementioned case, Conan reciprocates by halting his investigation just shy of capturing Kid, thereby allowing him to escape mostly unhindered. | + | Conan is usually a serious threat to Kid's plans and stops Kid often enough from escaping with the jewel that Conan has gained reputation in the press as Kid's "natural enemy". In several instances Conan appears to be able to 'sense' Kid's presence; knowing Kid is close by often causes Conan to behave far more frenetically. Appropriately, Kid seems to find Conan dangerous enough to warrant specific measures to keep the boy distracted. Conan does not seem to like Kid, saying once "He's only a thief that uses magic".<ref>Anime Episode 515: Kaitou Kid's Teleportation Magic</ref> However, if necessary, the two can put their rivalry aside (for a little while) and work together.<ref>[[Kaitou Kid and the Four Masterpieces]]</ref> Conan has something of a gentleman's agreement with Kaitou Kid that he won't look for the thief outside of heists. In several instances, beginning with the "Big Adventure in the Eccentric Residence" case, when Kid does Conan/Shinichi a favor, such as saving Genta's life in the aforementioned case, Conan reciprocates by halting his investigation just shy of capturing Kid, thereby allowing him to escape mostly unhindered. This exchange of favors can sometimes become a bit unbalanced; Conan was perfectly willing to force Kaitou Kid against his will into facing a member of the [[Black Organization]] at gunpoint in a carriage filled with explosives.<ref>Manga [[Volume 78]], File 7 (824): "Mystery Train (Final Destination)"</ref> |
=== Movies and OVAs === | === Movies and OVAs === | ||
| − | In the movies, Kid becomes aware that Conan is Shinichi after he once overheard Conan talking to [[Hiroshi Agasa|Professor Agasa]] and displaying too much criminal knowledge for a 7-year-old.<ref>Movie 03: ''[[The Last Wizard of the Century]]''</ref> As a result, he ends up using Shinichi's identity to either further his own goals and challenge Conan at the same time, or to pay back a favor Conan has done him. Since movies cannot be considered [[canon]], it | + | In the movies, Kid becomes aware that Conan is Shinichi after he once overheard Conan talking to [[Hiroshi Agasa|Professor Agasa]] and displaying too much criminal knowledge for a 7-year-old.<ref>Movie 03: ''[[The Last Wizard of the Century]]''</ref> As a result, he ends up using Shinichi's identity to either further his own goals and challenge Conan at the same time, or to pay back a favor Conan has done him. Since movies cannot be considered [[canon]], it is not confirmed that in the official manga he knows that Edogowa Conan is Shinichi Kudo. There is also some speculations on Conan figuring out that Kid isn't just stealing randomly. |
== Manga and Anime Timeline == | == Manga and Anime Timeline == | ||
=== Clocktower Heist === | === Clocktower Heist === | ||
| − | Before being shrunk, Shinichi had encountered Kaitou Kid once during the Clock Tower heist | + | Before being shrunk, Shinichi had encountered Kaitou Kid once during the Clock Tower heist. Though they did not meet face-to-face, they both knew 'someone' was there. |
=== Black Star Heist === | === Black Star Heist === | ||
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== Movie and OVA timeline == | == Movie and OVA timeline == | ||
| − | === Conan, Kid, and the Crystal Mother === | + | === OVA 4: [[Conan, Kid, and the Crystal Mother]] === |
At the end of the OVA 4, Conan had turned with a serious face when he remembered a phrase that Kid had said, "Next time, I'll help myself to the Jewel of Destiny." | At the end of the OVA 4, Conan had turned with a serious face when he remembered a phrase that Kid had said, "Next time, I'll help myself to the Jewel of Destiny." | ||
| − | === [[ | + | === Movie 14: [[The Lost Ship in the Sky]] === |
Conan asked for Kid to disguise as him for a while. | Conan asked for Kid to disguise as him for a while. | ||
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| + | === Movie 23: [[The Fist of Blue Sapphire]] === | ||
| + | Conan help Kaito while Kaito disguise as Shinichi | ||
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| + | == Gallery == | ||
| + | <gallery perrow="5" widths="185px"> | ||
| + | File:Op34-2.jpg|Opening 34: ''[[Kimi no Namida ni Konna ni Koi Shiteru]]'' | ||
| + | 名侦探柯南-515-DVD003348.jpg|thumb|Kaitou Kid threatens Conan with his card gun as part of a trick | ||
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| + | Vlcsnap-2013-09-17-01h08m38s188.png | ||
| + | Vlcsnap-2013-09-17-01h06m39s29.png | ||
| + | </gallery> | ||
== References== | == References== | ||
Latest revision as of 06:48, 14 April 2022
Shinichi Kudo and Kaito Kuroba, the current Kaitou Kid, are rivals and occasional allies. Shinichi, as the shrunken Conan Edogawa, and Kaitou Kid primarily interact during heists. Kaitou Kid, whose goal is to find the gem Pandora, challenges jewel owners expecting Conan Edogawa to show up and try to uncover his tricks and unmask him. Conan Edogawa uses his wits and gadgets to protect the gems and attempt to unmask Kaitou Kid. Although Conan sometimes manages to stop Kid from escaping with the gems, Conan has never succeeded in completely outwitting Kid and revealing his true identity.
Conan and Kaitou Kid frequently team up in the face of a common enemy. If Kaitou Kid has been framed for a theft or murder he often disguises and assists Conan during these investigations. In these situations Conan usually lets Kid get away without a challenge in return for the favor.
Contents
Relationship analysis
Manga and Anime
In the manga, Kid and Conan are rivals. Ever since Kaito met Conan, Kaito always seems to be anticipating Conan's appearance at his heists. Conan makes the heists more interesting for Kaito, while Conan views Kaito's heists as entertainment. The two teen's current rivalry is a foil of their parents' similar past rivalry; Toichi Kuroba, the first Kaitou Kid, was known to challenge Yusaku Kudo.
Conan is usually a serious threat to Kid's plans and stops Kid often enough from escaping with the jewel that Conan has gained reputation in the press as Kid's "natural enemy". In several instances Conan appears to be able to 'sense' Kid's presence; knowing Kid is close by often causes Conan to behave far more frenetically. Appropriately, Kid seems to find Conan dangerous enough to warrant specific measures to keep the boy distracted. Conan does not seem to like Kid, saying once "He's only a thief that uses magic".[1] However, if necessary, the two can put their rivalry aside (for a little while) and work together.[2] Conan has something of a gentleman's agreement with Kaitou Kid that he won't look for the thief outside of heists. In several instances, beginning with the "Big Adventure in the Eccentric Residence" case, when Kid does Conan/Shinichi a favor, such as saving Genta's life in the aforementioned case, Conan reciprocates by halting his investigation just shy of capturing Kid, thereby allowing him to escape mostly unhindered. This exchange of favors can sometimes become a bit unbalanced; Conan was perfectly willing to force Kaitou Kid against his will into facing a member of the Black Organization at gunpoint in a carriage filled with explosives.[3]
Movies and OVAs
In the movies, Kid becomes aware that Conan is Shinichi after he once overheard Conan talking to Professor Agasa and displaying too much criminal knowledge for a 7-year-old.[4] As a result, he ends up using Shinichi's identity to either further his own goals and challenge Conan at the same time, or to pay back a favor Conan has done him. Since movies cannot be considered canon, it is not confirmed that in the official manga he knows that Edogowa Conan is Shinichi Kudo. There is also some speculations on Conan figuring out that Kid isn't just stealing randomly.
Manga and Anime Timeline
Clocktower Heist
Before being shrunk, Shinichi had encountered Kaitou Kid once during the Clock Tower heist. Though they did not meet face-to-face, they both knew 'someone' was there.
Black Star Heist
In their next encounter, after Shinichi had become Conan, Kid disguised himself as Ran in order to steal the Suzuki Black Star pearl. When Conan cornered him on the Suzuki cruise ship, Kid suggested that he'd stolen all of Ran's clothes to impersonate her, and left her naked on the deck. While this ended up being a bluff, Conan was shocked and infuriated. In subsequent encounters between Kid and Conan, Conan displays a much more intense desire to capture Kid.
Movie and OVA timeline
OVA 4: Conan, Kid, and the Crystal Mother
At the end of the OVA 4, Conan had turned with a serious face when he remembered a phrase that Kid had said, "Next time, I'll help myself to the Jewel of Destiny."
Movie 14: The Lost Ship in the Sky
Conan asked for Kid to disguise as him for a while.
Movie 23: The Fist of Blue Sapphire
Conan help Kaito while Kaito disguise as Shinichi
Gallery
Opening 34: Kimi no Namida ni Konna ni Koi Shiteru
Kaitou Kid threatens Conan with his card gun as part of a trick
References
- ^ Anime Episode 515: Kaitou Kid's Teleportation Magic
- ^ Kaitou Kid and the Four Masterpieces
- ^ Manga Volume 78, File 7 (824): "Mystery Train (Final Destination)"
- ^ Movie 03: The Last Wizard of the Century
