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==Stuff to fix at a later point== 
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*Massive amounts of unnecessary information
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*Season 26 cut off/ beginning of season 27. Wiki marks seasons by DVD release, we wont know where PART 27 starts until the end of 2018
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*Figuring out why people find it necessary to mark the appearances of super minor characters, especially ones without names
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*There should be a way to consolidate all minor characters into one page before this gets too out of hand
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*Restoring "The Boss" page because of major spoilers.
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*Editing the Karasuma Renya page because of major spoilers.
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*Unnecessary deletions such as links to other pages and sources and images
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==Stuff I'm currently doing==
 
==Stuff I'm currently doing==
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====Completed====
 
====Completed====
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*Helped finish Chukichi's anime original page and made it up to date as of 11/16/17
 
*Updated Animal Crossings and Sherry's Soliloquies and Q's from Sunday as of 5/16/17
 
*Updated Animal Crossings and Sherry's Soliloquies and Q's from Sunday as of 5/16/17
 
*Updated Postcards as of 2017 (May)
 
*Updated Postcards as of 2017 (May)
 
*Scanning Detective Conan Color works, 2003 edition. (Complete!) : http://imgur.com/a/EGXFq
 
*Scanning Detective Conan Color works, 2003 edition. (Complete!) : http://imgur.com/a/EGXFq
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*Scanning Kaitou color pages from Treasured editions (Complete!) : http://imgur.com/a/m145m
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*Scanning Kaitou color pages from Treasured editions (Complete!) : http://imgur.com/a/m145m <font color="#ff0000">'''**Updated for Magic Kaito Volume 5**'''</font>
  
 
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• [[User:Jimmy-kud0-tv2/Post Cards|Post Cards]] <br>
 
• [[User:Jimmy-kud0-tv2/Post Cards|Post Cards]] <br>
 
• [[User:Jimmy-kud0-tv2/Lets Talk Day|Lets Talk Day]] <br>-->
 
• [[User:Jimmy-kud0-tv2/Lets Talk Day|Lets Talk Day]] <br>-->
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• [[User:Jimmy-kud0-tv2/Blog|Jimmy_kud0_tv2 Blog]] (Blank)
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https://manga.tokyo/interview/interview-with-detective-conan-producer-michihiko-suwa-part-1/ <br>
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https://manga.tokyo/interview/interview-with-detective-conan-producer-michihiko-suwa-part-2/ <br>
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https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5577414562 <br>
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https://imgur.com/a/ATKRW<br><br>
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VHS tapes<br>
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cut down into episodes and [adult swim] commercials only :<br>
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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/179Yx8uZ3aHW_0hlPeWqSC1dyumcBTXUN?usp=sharing<br>
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full raw vhs tapes :<br>
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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1f6IHtAqNavmPRL366UJWPs3p3Laf0ifH?usp=sharing
  
 
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* [[User:Jimmy-kud0-tv2/Shogi|Shogi in DC]] (sections for each mention of Shogi in DC)
 
* [[User:Jimmy-kud0-tv2/Shogi|Shogi in DC]] (sections for each mention of Shogi in DC)
 
* [[User:Jimmy-kud0-tv2/Magicians|Magicians in DC]] (sections for each Magician in DC)
 
* [[User:Jimmy-kud0-tv2/Magicians|Magicians in DC]] (sections for each Magician in DC)
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* [[User:Jimmy-kud0-tv2/Case_Closed_Trading_Card_Game|Case Closed TCG]]
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=stuff from subreddit discord=
 
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written by Noirto
 
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I looked into the Yui's bandage removal sentences which we discussed earlier. It appears the meaning does not indicate how soon in the past the nurse removed Hyoue's bandages, the immediacy of the change, nor Kuroda's hair-color status at the time he was first bandaged.
 
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顔の包帯を取った看護師が腰を抜かしたらしいわよ・・・
 
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Kao no hōtai o totta kankoshi ga koshionukashita rashī wayo...
 
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Plain past tense.
 
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まっ黒だった髪が事故のストレスで白髪に変色してまるで別人のようだったそうだから・・・
 
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Makkuro datta kami ga jiko no sutoresu de shiragani henshokushite marude betsujin no yōdatta sōda kara...
 
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Another solidly plain past tense sentence with a past te-form which suggests the cause of the changed-color was case stress.
 
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Analyzing, Yui could have been referring to an event which was completed over a short time 10 years ago, or an event which completed over the course of 10 years. We are left to make a guess based on the context. There is no clear sense of immediacy which you said there was a sense of in the prior conversation.(edited)
 
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One scenario is that ~10 years ago soon after the incident, someone put the bandages on Hyoue after the Tokyo Metro police hospital(?) doctors patched him up, he healed for a short while and in that short while his hair turned white, then the stated RN removed the bandages and was almost knocked down by how different he looked. Hyoue then lay there comatose for the next ten years with his new look rather than gradually changing. Another scenario that also works is Hyoue had laid there bandaged for a long time while his hair slowly changed color and then a registered nurse who knew what he looked like long ago took off the bandages and was shocked. I do think the former makes much more sense in light of hospital procedures, but that is an assumption, not a definite fact.
 
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Looking back, I think you are unintentionally making a very strong assumption when you said:  
 
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"meaning that he had black --> bandages put on ---> removed ----> white a reference to bandage changing period"
 
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The issue is assuming Kuroda came into the hospital with a full head of hair. Keep in mind that Yui said that he had a burn scar likely from the same incident, so fire and thus hair loss may have been involved. The second sentence's past tense with no qualifiers means that it is unclear if Kuroda even had a head of hair at the time of his hospitalization. It was black before at an indeterminate time, then case stress happened, then his hair turned white. The nurse knew he had black hair and what he generally looked like before it turned white, but the source or timepoint of her knowledge is unclear. She may have known him from long before the incident, or even from a picture. Again no clear sense of concurrency is present, the past is vague.
 
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Since it is a Japanese trope to have hair quickly change color like it is a chameleon instead of gradually coming in at the root in the new color, I'm not going to make assumptions about Gosho's realism. So going back to my point, I think you are coming from a reasonable place, but hardly the only possible place.
 

Latest revision as of 21:19, 15 June 2023

Stuff to fix at a later point

  • Massive amounts of unnecessary information
  • Season 26 cut off/ beginning of season 27. Wiki marks seasons by DVD release, we wont know where PART 27 starts until the end of 2018
  • Figuring out why people find it necessary to mark the appearances of super minor characters, especially ones without names
  • There should be a way to consolidate all minor characters into one page before this gets too out of hand
  • Restoring "The Boss" page because of major spoilers.
  • Editing the Karasuma Renya page because of major spoilers.
  • Unnecessary deletions such as links to other pages and sources and images

Stuff I'm currently doing

  • Scanning Conan and Kindaichi character info pages (3/6 that I own done, of 12 total)
  • Still rereading whole manga for all pop culture references (left off at vol 21)
  • Need to check up on Secret Talk

Completed

  • Helped finish Chukichi's anime original page and made it up to date as of 11/16/17
  • Updated Animal Crossings and Sherry's Soliloquies and Q's from Sunday as of 5/16/17
  • Updated Postcards as of 2017 (May)
  • Scanning Detective Conan Color works, 2003 edition. (Complete!) : http://imgur.com/a/EGXFq
  • Scanning Kaitou color pages from Treasured editions (Complete!) : http://imgur.com/a/m145m **Updated for Magic Kaito Volume 5**

Shortcuts

Cast • Notable cast • Minor manga • Minor anime • BO • BO related • APTX
Hints Template • Meta Template • Volumes Template • Movies Template

Subpages

• Chronological • Cheat Sheet
• Things to do on the Wiki • Conan and Kindaichi Scans • Non-Canon BO
• Conan Stuff I Own • My theories • Test page • Calendar
• Shinichi Image Timeline

• Collectible figures Page

• Interview: Lists
• Untranslated Interviews
• Translated Interviews
• Super Digest Books

• Jimmy_kud0_tv2 Blog (Blank)


https://manga.tokyo/interview/interview-with-detective-conan-producer-michihiko-suwa-part-1/
https://manga.tokyo/interview/interview-with-detective-conan-producer-michihiko-suwa-part-2/
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5577414562
https://imgur.com/a/ATKRW

VHS tapes
cut down into episodes and [adult swim] commercials only :
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/179Yx8uZ3aHW_0hlPeWqSC1dyumcBTXUN?usp=sharing

full raw vhs tapes :
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1f6IHtAqNavmPRL366UJWPs3p3Laf0ifH?usp=sharing

Created Pages

• Manga Listed By Case • MK Manga Listed by Heist • Rerun and Remastered Episodes list • Kamen Yaiba • Gomera • Detective Samonji • Case from 17 years ago • 20 Surprise Reveals
• Category:Interviews and Gosho's Words • Soft redirects category + 3 members • Re-format of Secret Talk • Secret talk images : link
• Anime to Manga Characters by Appearance

Eventual pages to create / work on

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