Talk:The Darkest Nightmare

cast list organization

It is really unnecessary to keep rearranging the cast of characters list. Please do not add or delete any characters to the current list until they are officially confirmed.--Jimmy-kud0-tv2 (talk) 03:33, 25 January 2016 (CET)

Seconding this. Cast generally goes by Conan first, then the "keynote" characters for the episode/movie. That said, it isn't that important, nor is the arrangement high on any sort of priority list. I'm going to lock the page to prevent excessive frivolous edits if this continues. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 01:06, 26 January 2016 (CET)

I locked this page for unregistered users for two weeks due to excessive trivial edits and (more importantly) misinformation being added. Edits may be requested here on the talk page. If there is a major update to the movie website, please use my talk page to alert me so I can unlock the page early. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 04:39, 29 January 2016 (CET)

Looking at the page history for April 13th (which is still today for me) it seems like this cast reorganization issue is still a thing. I think your lock on the page probably expired some time back in mid to late Feb. Currently there really haven't been that many updates other than the unconfirmed major spoilers that were leaked to DCTP (and posted on this page as well). --Jimmy-kud0-tv2 (talk) 02:47, 14 April 2016 (CEST)

Oh I am plenty frustrated about the number of trivial edits of late. I have typed out and then cancelled at least three separate posts bitching about someone making edits solely to mess with whitespace and formatting that does absolutely nothing to affect the display of the page. Since first editing Wikipedia some 11 years ago, I am still flabbergasted by the amount of time some people plow into the parts of the wiki people care about the absolute least, like minor formatting and order. I think we are on edit round #4 in the past 4-5 years of users switching the convention of using polices' full names versus title + last name in the cast list. I am super grateful to users like you who generate new content because that's what moves the wiki forward. That said, I don't want to lock the page so close to the Movie release date. Some wikis like Bulbapedia do it, but while I understand the volume of crap they must sort through, we don't have quite the same intensity of problem and it looks bad and is discouraging.

Ultimately I think the only solution is going to codify a singular format for cast lists in the manual of style and along with a rule for frivolous edits to them after they have been made consistent with that rule. My vote right now is order of importance, key characters first, main support second, trivial third, and last background and cameo and flashback. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 06:04, 14 April 2016 (CEST)

news from facebook

- Regarding the third handsome man He is Jinpei Matsuda. Apparently he was friend with Amuro in the Police Academy. He taught Amuro how to disable bombs.

- Regarding the heterochromatic woman Show Her codename is Curacao. She most likely died at the end.

- Regarding Rum Show He/She was computer-voiced. At the end of the movie, the cast list either didn't include him or have his/her VA.

- Regarding Bourbon and Kir Show The movie ended before their identities were discovered.

- Regarding the ending Show Similar to M18. Conan kicked a soccer ball to illuminate the setting so that Akai can aim and shoot. --80.181.64.57 17:30, 5 April 2016 (CET)

My guess is that this is likely, but I'm for holding off until more independent info comes out. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 18:14, 5 April 2016 (CEST)

Episode 813: The Shadow Approaching Amuro

In the version with english subtitles, unlike the one original on the first airdate, the usual ending scene when Conan narrates the preview event of the movie it's cut.

You can not link to episode downloads on this website. In addition, most of the english subtitled episodes for recent episodes come from Crunchyroll, which does not subtitle the movies. They probably removed the extra information on purpose--Jimmy-kud0-tv2 (talk) 17:52, 4 August 2016 (CEST)

Sacrifice or Murder?

In the resolution section, can we explain Curaçao's death as Murder? She was injured, that is true, but then she decided to sacrifice herself for the sake of the children. It is not Gin who killed her directly. He caused it, yes, but then we have to include all the organization members who were inside the helicopter in this case. Add to that the fact that we already have a box that states Korn as the shooter who caused her injury. So, can we change "Murder" into "Sacrifice", or what do you suggest? Thank you. Calia Archer: talk 7:55, 18 November 2016 (UTC + 02)

"Death by misadventure" would be the term a sacrificial death would fall under in the US. The five main manners of death are natural, accident, homicide (murder), suicide, and undetermined. Death by misadventure is defined as a type of accidental death which occurred due to a dangerous risk which was taken voluntarily. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 15:56, 19 November 2016 (CET)

Thank you, MacGuffin. So based on what you said, shouldn't we change the headline of the box into "Accident" and remove the "culprit"? Calia Archer: talk 5:33 PM, 19 November 2016 (UTC + 02)

"Sacrificial Death" is what I would choose as the box heading. I would definitely leave Gin listed as the culprit no matter what the box heading says because he was the causative agent. I know for sure that in most of the US, and I think in most western countries, there are laws (felony murder/constructive murder or similar statutes) that would allow Gin to be charged with first degree murder for intentionally creating the deadly situation in which Curacao died. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 19:39, 19 November 2016 (CET)