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==== Subaru Okiya ====
 
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[[File:Subaru Okiya.jpg|right]]{{Main|Okiya is Akai Theory}}
 
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One popular theory is that [[Subaru Okiya]] is Shuichi Akai. Okiya first appeared not long after Akai's apparent death. Okiya and Akai have many similarities, such as appearance and left handedness. Conan trusts him and ignores Haibara's reactions to him. Conan also seemed to know about the place where Okiya lived before they met. Ran also feels like she recognizes Okiya from somewhere. The name "Okiya Subaru" continues the pattern of puns on "Char Aznable" that "Akai Shuuichi" and his alias "Moroboshi Dai" follow.
 
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==== "Scar Akai" ====
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== Speculation ==
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Some time after Akai was apparently killed by Kir, during a stroll through Tokyo, Jodie encountered a man who looks exactly like Akai, but with a huge burn scar on the right side of his face. At first, Jodie was reluctant to believe that this man was Akai, and she didn't tell anyone about her discovery, rather attempting to figure it out on her own. Later, she admitted her prior encounter to [[Andre Camel]] after he saw scar Akai in a bathroom. In the [[Detective Boys vs. Robber Group]] case, the man helped Conan defeat the robbery gang, though Conan himself didn't learn about his presence or involvement then.<ref>Manga Chapter 677-679: Bank Heist Case</ref> Scar Akai also appeared at a department store where he was trapped on a floor with Subaru Okiya and then was targeted by the Black Organization's snipers.
 
  
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==== Masumi Sera ====
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=== Shiho's APTX 4869 version is contaminated with research from Silver Bullet ===
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The character Masumi Sera is Akai's younger sister, as confirmed at the end of Chapter 821.<ref>Manga Chapter 821</ref> Sera's eyes are identical to Akai's. Also, Sera Masumi's name is also incredibly similar to Mobile Suit Gundam character [http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Sayla_Mass Sayla Mass] (セイラ・マス, ''Seira Masu''). [[#Name origin|Akai's name is derived]] from Sayla Mass's older brother's name, Char Anzable. Also, Conan, Jodie, and Camel have the feeling she resembles someone they know.
 
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==Hints that Okiya was Akai ==
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It is known that the [[APTX 4869]] of 17 years ago was used for murder<ref>[[Kohji Haneda]]'s murder</ref> and that Shiho's current version of APTX 4869 is being used for the same purpose.<ref>Gin's attempted murder of Shinichi, Pisco's backup murder plot</ref> It is unlikely that the generally cautious Black Organization would use a custom drug for murder if they knew it had a chance of shrinking the victim and leaving them alive. It also doesn't make much sense that they would kill people using an in-development drug which Shiho explicitly stated was not created for murder<ref name="179p9">Manga [[Volume 18]], File 9 (179), page 9: "The Girl Made Of Lies"</ref> and which [[APTX 4869#Original intent|is suspected to have]] a somewhat miraculous end goal such as deaging, rejuvination, or immortality.
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*Okiya and Akai have similar appearance and habits. Elaborate here later.
 
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*Okiya and Akai are both left handed.<ref>'''Examples of Akai's left handedness'''<br>
 
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*Akai prepares to attack one of the bus jackers with his left hand. (289)
 
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* Akai's handgun in is his left waist-high pocket meaning it must be drawn with his left hand. (354)
 
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* Akai's handling of the rifle indicates a left handed preference. He holds it with a left handed style grip, puts the rifle over his left shoulder while keeping his finger on the trigger, and pumps the rifle in a flashy way using only his left hand. (434)
 
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* Akai uses his left eye to look through the scope with his left index finger on the trigger and his right hand stabilizing which is the same way Gin, who is known to be left-handed, is holding his rifle. (504)
 
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* Akai uses his left hand to pull back a curtain. (599)
 
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* Akai uses his left hand to pull out can of coffee, open it one handed, and pick the can up when he drops it. (600)
 
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* In episode 552, a photo of Akai is used for the "next Conan hint" which is left-handed.
 
  
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'''Examples of Okiya's left handedness'''<br>
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This contradiction can be explained by the Black Organization mistakenly operating on the assumption that Shiho recreated her parents' [[APTX 4869]] (which may have been tested in the past and found to kill exclusively). It is known that a lab fire destroyed most of Elena and Atsushi's drug project research. Shiho had to piece their research together from fragments. It is certainly possible that damage from the fire destroyed certain context clues that would allow Shiho to figure out which research belonged to the APTX 4869 drug, and which belonged to Silver Bullet. In resurrecting her parents' work, Shiho mixed the research together. This hybrid is the modern [[APTX 4869]].
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* Okiya is brushing his teeth with his left hand. (638)
 
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* Okiya rips a paper out of his notebook and writes on it with his left hand. (639)
 
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* Okiya pushes up his glasses with left hand. (640)
 
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* Okiya is holding his glass of bourbon with his left hand. (640)
 
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* Okiya knocks away a knife using his left hand. (666)
 
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* Okiya is using his left hand to hold the spatula while stir-frying onions. (691)
 
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* Okiya is holding Conan's glasses in his left hand. (755)</ref>
 
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*Conan, who knew Okiya was Akai and was therefore an ally, uncharacteristically broke with his normal untrusting tendencies by allowing Okiya to be close to Haibara despite multiple warnings from her. Not only did Conan continue to brush off her warnings, he came up with excuses as to why he trusted Okiya. One such excuse, "A Holmes fan can't be a bad person!" was an obvious lie as there was an entire murder case where all the suspects were Holmes fans<ref name=Holmes_case>Manga Volume 12 Files 7-10, Volume 13 File 1: Holmes Freak Murder Case</ref> and the Black Organization has used Sherlock references before.<ref name=The_Bullet>Manga Volume 24 File 10 Page 11: "The Bullet from the Past". The password for the APTX data in "Reunion With the Black Corps"M was “Sherringford” – one of the names Sir Arthur C. Doyle considered for his protagonist before choosing “Sherlock Holmes,” a likely indication that someone in the Black Organization is a fan of the detective.</ref>
 
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*In the "Red, White and Yellow" case,<ref name=622p8>Manga Volume 60 File 3 Page 8: Red, White and Yellow</ref> Conan recognized the address Okiya was staying at despite never having met Okiya before.
 
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*Okiya was often shown drinking bourbon, which Camel had earlier stated was Akai's favorite alcoholic drink.<ref name=The_Fated>Manga Volume 65 File 3 Pages 3-4: The Fated Individual</ref>
 
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*Ran felt like she has seen Okiya from somewhere.<ref name=Ran_Recognize>Manga Volume 61 File 8 Page 13: Paper Airplane</ref> Ran has met Akai three times that she can remember: once in New York City,<ref name=NY_Case>Manga Volume 35 File 4 Page 2: Title Golden Apple</ref> in a restaurant,<ref name=Sato>Manga Volume 33 File 1 Page 14: Sato's Engagement Bet</ref> and another time after the "Dark Footprint" arc.<ref name=White_Snow>Manga Volume 37 File 8 Page 1: White Snow, Black Shadow</ref> Akai had frightened and deliberately intimidated her in their first meeting<ref name=NY_Case/>, so she felt uncomfortable and decided she shouldn't talk about Shinichi with Okiya.
 
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*Haibara began suspecting Okiya to be Dai Moroboshi. During a car chase, Okiya said the line "Don't make that kind of face"<ref name="800pg11">Volume 76, File 5, page 11, Chap 800: "Online Client"</ref> which caused Haibara to remember that Dai Moroboshi said something similar to that in the past.<ref name="802pg10">Volume 76, File 7, page 10, Chap 802: "Don't make that kind of face..."</ref>
 
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*Okiya and Akai sometimes use similar expressions. Okiya at one point admonishes Haibara "not to make that kind of face."<ref name="800pg11">Volume 76, File 5, page 11, Chap 800: "Online Client"</ref> Akai has used that line twice before, once to Conan in Clash of Red and Black<ref name="602pg15">Volume 58, File 5, page 15, Chap 602: "Clash of Red and Black"</ref> and once as Moroboshi Dai in Haibara's past.<ref name="802pg10">Volume 76, File 7, page 10, Chap 802: "Don't make that kind of face..."</ref> Both Akai and Okiya refer to the Black Organization members as wolves.<ref name="599pg6">Volume 58, File 2, Page 6, Chap 599</ref><ref name="704pg16">Volume 67, File 8, page 16, Chap 704</ref>
 
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*When Okiya runs into Jodie at the department store and knocks her down, he tells her, "The division of fault is 50/50. You also bear some of the blame for neglecting to pay attention to your surroundings." As this occurred during Jodie's chase for [[Scar Akai]] whom she thought was the real Akai, one can surmise that Okiya's intention may have been to hint that he was Akai she was looking for.
 
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*Aboard the mystery train ride, Yukiko and Okiya retrieved unconscious Masumi Sera. When Okiya and Sera were alone, the unconscious Sera whispered 'Shuu-nii' (-nii being the [[Wikipedia:Japanese_honorific#Familial_honorifics|Japanese honorific]] for older brother) and Okiya had smiled at this, implying that he is her brother, Shuichi Akai.
 
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*"Subaru Okiya", "Dai Moroboshi", and "Shuichi Akai" are all references to Mobile Suit Gundam character Char Aznable. The “Akai” (meaning red) part of Akai’s name refers to Mobile Suit Gundam character Char Aznable’s nickname “Red comet.” “Shuichi” is a reference to the voice actor of Char Aznable, Ikeda Shuichi (who incidentally became Akai’s voice actor too). Dai Moroboshi, the alias Akai used while he was undercover in the Black Organization, comes from part of Char's real name, Casval Rem Deikun, with "Dei" pronounced as "Dai" (ダイ) in Japanese. In Moroboshi (諸星), the first kanji can be broken up into 言者 which when pronounced as げんしゃ (gensho) sounds very similar to the word for "phenomenon" (genshou). The second character (星) means "star". Moroboshi, read as "Star phenomenon" references falling stars or maybe comets. “Subaru Okiya” is a pun on Char Aznable’s real name which is キャスバル “Kyasubaru” (romanized as 'Casval').<ref name=Char_Aznable>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char_Aznable</ref>
 
  
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=== Hints that Okiya was not Bourbon or another character===
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Perhaps because the project took the name [[APTX 4869]] rather than [[Silver Bullet]] and for the most part has similar deadly results, most of the Black Organization seems to have assumed that it is the same drug as before. Their ignorance can an least be partly explained by Shiho hiding certain results so that even executive members of the Organization were not aware APTX 4869 could cause de-aging.<ref>Shinichi's survival for sure, and possibly the one shrunken mouse which was tested. The most significant proof is that no one has figured out Shiho shrank to escape her handcuffs and the locked room. Someone aware of shrinking results could easily extrapolate what happened.</ref> It is possible Shiho may misinformed the Organization about the status of her recreation project, not having realized she had mixed the research until after the Organization intended to use it for killing.  
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*Okiya knew about Conan's tracking glasses and the detective badges.<ref name=X>Chapter 755 page 14: Communications Code</ref> Conan has never used the tracking glasses in front of Okiya before. Bourbon or a third party would not be privy to Conan's gadgets. The mechanism to operate Conan's glasses isn't obvious, so only someone who knows about their existence beforehand could recognize the glasses at Agasa's and figure out how to activate the tracking function. Shuichi Akai could have heard about the glasses in several ways. The first source is when [[James Black]] was kidnapped while he had [[Ayumi Yoshida|Ayumi]]'s detective badge. Conan used the badge to track down James Black. James was waiting to meet with Akai before he was kidnapped and drove away with Akai after he was rescued. Akai could have also heard about the tracking function from Jodie when Conan chased after Kir to prevent an assassination. Finally, Akai may also know about them from when Haibara borrowed the glasses to find Conan at the shipping yards at the climax of the Vermouth arc. He was present at the time and would have seen Haibara wearing them even though she has never worn glasses when Akai had seen her previously.
 
  
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==References==
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This mix-up explains certain conversations, such as the one with Conan about APTX 4869's history which implied the existence over another drug beyond APTX 4869.
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{{quote|'''Haibara:''' And the fact that <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Kohji Haneda]]'s] name was on the [[List of Black Organization related characters#APTX 4869_Victims|list of victims]] who were given [[APTX  4869]], I'd say there's a good chance that [[Asaka]] was one of the members of the Black Organization!<br>
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'''Conan:''' I don't get it. Kohji Haneda was killed 17 years ago. Then why is his name under mine in the list?<br>
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'''Haibara:''' Perhaps the person who compiled the list wasn't going by chronological order. Maybe it was sorted by blood type or something.<br>
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'''Conan:''' Wait a minute, so the drug that I was forced to take existed 17 years ago? And you are its creator? How old are you really?<br>
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'''Haibara:''' How rude. I've told you before. I am 18 now. Perhaps it was an early prototype of a drug made by my parents. The information for the drug that I created was mostly taken from the burnt remains of the data that my parents left behind.<br>
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'''Conan:''' Burnt remains? What do you mean?<br>
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'''Haibara:''' Well, the research lab that my parents worked in caught fire, and along with them, most of their research materials were burnt. I heard from the other members of the Organization that it was an accident.<br>
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''Well, what I was really ordered to make was another drug, however...<!-- SPIMER EXACT TRANS FOR THIS ONE LINE-->''|Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"}}
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In this conversation, it makes the most sense that the Black Organization was hoping that Shiho would not work on the prototype APTX 4869 used to kill in the past and instead recreate her parents' final project [[Silver Bullet]] which seems to have fallen through (perhaps by catching fire) before being completed.<ref>Elena Miyano tape 18: "But in order to complete the drug, your dad and I will have to leave you and your sister. Please understand, Shiho."<br>Manga [[Volume 78]], File 4 (821), pgs 7-8: "Mystery Train: Junction"</ref> They gave these orders unaware that Shiho actually did what they wanted her to do, which in turn explains why Shiho said that she did not intend to create a murder drug<ref name="179p9"/> and protested that the drug was used for killing. Instead, the Black Organization seems to mistakenly believe that Shiho had reassembled the prototype APTX 4869 of the past.
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<font color="#333333">This type of development would be so very in character for Gosho, since it involves a significant degree of failing to share information and lots of secret keeping between supposed allies.</font>
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Latest revision as of 22:31, 13 May 2017


Speculation

Shiho's APTX 4869 version is contaminated with research from Silver Bullet

It is known that the APTX 4869 of 17 years ago was used for murder[1] and that Shiho's current version of APTX 4869 is being used for the same purpose.[2] It is unlikely that the generally cautious Black Organization would use a custom drug for murder if they knew it had a chance of shrinking the victim and leaving them alive. It also doesn't make much sense that they would kill people using an in-development drug which Shiho explicitly stated was not created for murder[3] and which is suspected to have a somewhat miraculous end goal such as deaging, rejuvination, or immortality.

This contradiction can be explained by the Black Organization mistakenly operating on the assumption that Shiho recreated her parents' APTX 4869 (which may have been tested in the past and found to kill exclusively). It is known that a lab fire destroyed most of Elena and Atsushi's drug project research. Shiho had to piece their research together from fragments. It is certainly possible that damage from the fire destroyed certain context clues that would allow Shiho to figure out which research belonged to the APTX 4869 drug, and which belonged to Silver Bullet. In resurrecting her parents' work, Shiho mixed the research together. This hybrid is the modern APTX 4869.

Perhaps because the project took the name APTX 4869 rather than Silver Bullet and for the most part has similar deadly results, most of the Black Organization seems to have assumed that it is the same drug as before. Their ignorance can an least be partly explained by Shiho hiding certain results so that even executive members of the Organization were not aware APTX 4869 could cause de-aging.[4] It is possible Shiho may misinformed the Organization about the status of her recreation project, not having realized she had mixed the research until after the Organization intended to use it for killing.

This mix-up explains certain conversations, such as the one with Conan about APTX 4869's history which implied the existence over another drug beyond APTX 4869.

Haibara: And the fact that [Kohji Haneda's] name was on the list of victims who were given APTX 4869, I'd say there's a good chance that Asaka was one of the members of the Black Organization!
Conan: I don't get it. Kohji Haneda was killed 17 years ago. Then why is his name under mine in the list?
Haibara: Perhaps the person who compiled the list wasn't going by chronological order. Maybe it was sorted by blood type or something.
Conan: Wait a minute, so the drug that I was forced to take existed 17 years ago? And you are its creator? How old are you really?
Haibara: How rude. I've told you before. I am 18 now. Perhaps it was an early prototype of a drug made by my parents. The information for the drug that I created was mostly taken from the burnt remains of the data that my parents left behind.
Conan: Burnt remains? What do you mean?
Haibara: Well, the research lab that my parents worked in caught fire, and along with them, most of their research materials were burnt. I heard from the other members of the Organization that it was an accident.
Well, what I was really ordered to make was another drug, however...

—Manga Volume 89, File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"

In this conversation, it makes the most sense that the Black Organization was hoping that Shiho would not work on the prototype APTX 4869 used to kill in the past and instead recreate her parents' final project Silver Bullet which seems to have fallen through (perhaps by catching fire) before being completed.[5] They gave these orders unaware that Shiho actually did what they wanted her to do, which in turn explains why Shiho said that she did not intend to create a murder drug[3] and protested that the drug was used for killing. Instead, the Black Organization seems to mistakenly believe that Shiho had reassembled the prototype APTX 4869 of the past.

This type of development would be so very in character for Gosho, since it involves a significant degree of failing to share information and lots of secret keeping between supposed allies.

  1. ^ Kohji Haneda's murder
  2. ^ Gin's attempted murder of Shinichi, Pisco's backup murder plot
  3. ^ a b Manga Volume 18, File 9 (179), page 9: "The Girl Made Of Lies"
  4. ^ Shinichi's survival for sure, and possibly the one shrunken mouse which was tested. The most significant proof is that no one has figured out Shiho shrank to escape her handcuffs and the locked room. Someone aware of shrinking results could easily extrapolate what happened.
  5. ^ Elena Miyano tape 18: "But in order to complete the drug, your dad and I will have to leave you and your sister. Please understand, Shiho."
    Manga Volume 78, File 4 (821), pgs 7-8: "Mystery Train: Junction"
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