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In researching an IP's edit, I looked up the official term used. In File 475 page 3 middle left panel and page 4 top panel, Conan used the term: "ボス の メールアドレス" (Literally boss's mail address). I'm not sure whether this should be translated as phone number or email address because it looks like a phone number rather than an email and various Conan promotionals in Japan advertised calling a phone number like you were calling the boss. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''<font color="#B22222">Chekhov</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">MacGuffin</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''<font color="#696969">talk</font>''']]</sup> 08:19, 12 December 2014 (CET) | In researching an IP's edit, I looked up the official term used. In File 475 page 3 middle left panel and page 4 top panel, Conan used the term: "ボス の メールアドレス" (Literally boss's mail address). I'm not sure whether this should be translated as phone number or email address because it looks like a phone number rather than an email and various Conan promotionals in Japan advertised calling a phone number like you were calling the boss. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''<font color="#B22222">Chekhov</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">MacGuffin</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''<font color="#696969">talk</font>''']]</sup> 08:19, 12 December 2014 (CET) | ||
+ | :I was the IP who did the edit, and I think we have enough proof to say it is an e-mail address rather than a phone number (in Japan each mobile phone have an e-mail address associated to it, and they use e-mail rather than SMS to send messages). In file 434 Vermouth receives an e-mail from the boss and replies with another '''e-mail''', not by calling him/her (even though she thinks "Ok, boss"): this is the first time Conan hears Nanatsu no Ko, even though he doesn't recognize it right away; Conan even tells Vermouth that if it will look like his heart stopped then the '''address''' to which she just sent the '''e-mail''' will be found out. In file 439 Conan thinks that if he had that '''address''' he could find out the boss' identity. In file 470 Conan confirms that Vermouth sent an '''e-email''', and Agasa wonders if the numbers dialed are familiar to Conan because they contain letters often used by Conan in his messages: you can't use letters in phone numbers but you can in '''e-mail'''. In file 475 Conan confirms again that what Vermouth sent was an '''e-email''' and discovers that #969#6261 is the boss' '''e-mail address'''. A note by Gosho Aoyama says that in real life '''e-mail addresses''' can't have "#", but he decided that in the Conanverse they can to avoid pranks; of course it this was a phone number he would have done things differently, using a real telephone numbering plan (like 0858 for Tottori) and only using symbols that can't be used in the second part of the number to avoid pranks, but since '''e-mail addresses''' are (unlike phone numbers) totally unrelated from from where you live it doesn't matter where the impossible symbols are positioned in the number. Still in file 475, Agasa asks Conan if he sent an '''e-mail''' to the boss, which he denies; he sais that he wants Takagi to investigate that '''address''', while Ai thinks the '''address''' is like Pandora's box. In file 479, Conan is about to write an '''e-mail''': we can read the '''address''' (#969#6261, which by mistake became #696#6261 in the anime) but he hasn't started yet writing it, and he decides not to do so. In file 499, Conan sees Yoko calling someone, and thinks of the fact that now everytime he sees someone using a cell phone he is reminded of Vermouth and the boss' '''e-mail address''', and also thinks of Ai saying the '''address''' is like Pandora's box. At the end of that file and the beginning of file 500 Conan hears Rena dialing Nanatsu no Ko and then she is called by Gin: she informs Gin that she only had a small problem which she just informed Anokata '''via e-mail'''. Still in file 500, Ai asks Conan if he is sure that Rena is from the BO, and Conan answers that she sent an '''e-mail''' to their boss an then received a phone call from Gin. In file 595, Ran says Esuke told her he heard someone (Kusuda) dial an '''e-email address''' that sounded like Nanatsu no Ko. Eisuke mistook Kusuda for a colleague of his father because Ethan was a mole inside the BO, and thus sent various '''e-mail''' to an '''address''' that sounded like Nanatsu no Ko; Eisuke asked what was this sound, and Ethan answered he was '''sending an e-mail''' to "his boss" (the BO boss). In file 605 James says that it is better if Eisuke gets into the witness protection program since he knows the BO boss' '''mail address'''. --[[Special:Contributions/87.8.35.181|87.8.35.181]] 12:11, 12 December 2014 (CET) |
Revision as of 11:11, 12 December 2014
Changing name to "The Boss of the Black Organization" from "Anokata"
I've been thinking about the page name since I am planning to feature this article, and I think it would make more sense to rename this page "The Boss of the Black Organization". It's a bit long (redirects will help), but it is more descriptive than "ano kata". "The Boss of the Black Organization" can't be mistaken for the Magic Kaito Organization's boss who is also called "ano kata" or "the boss". Someone who doesn't know much about the series or doesn't remember the Japanese term will have an easier time searching for "the boss". Across the rest of the wiki, using the brief "the Boss" instead of "The Boss of the Black Organization" makes the most sense, unless referring to someone speaking about the boss and using "ano kata" is more appropriate.
If you or someone else objects to the renaming, you are free to change it back and start a discussion about it here per Wikipedia style BOLD protocol. I'm doing it this way because usually these talk page discussions rarely get anything done or generate much attention unless something is changed that people care about. Some discussions have been hanging for months to years without decisions one way or the other. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 17:11, 3 February 2013 (PST)
Phone number vs mail address
In researching an IP's edit, I looked up the official term used. In File 475 page 3 middle left panel and page 4 top panel, Conan used the term: "ボス の メールアドレス" (Literally boss's mail address). I'm not sure whether this should be translated as phone number or email address because it looks like a phone number rather than an email and various Conan promotionals in Japan advertised calling a phone number like you were calling the boss. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 08:19, 12 December 2014 (CET)
- I was the IP who did the edit, and I think we have enough proof to say it is an e-mail address rather than a phone number (in Japan each mobile phone have an e-mail address associated to it, and they use e-mail rather than SMS to send messages). In file 434 Vermouth receives an e-mail from the boss and replies with another e-mail, not by calling him/her (even though she thinks "Ok, boss"): this is the first time Conan hears Nanatsu no Ko, even though he doesn't recognize it right away; Conan even tells Vermouth that if it will look like his heart stopped then the address to which she just sent the e-mail will be found out. In file 439 Conan thinks that if he had that address he could find out the boss' identity. In file 470 Conan confirms that Vermouth sent an e-email, and Agasa wonders if the numbers dialed are familiar to Conan because they contain letters often used by Conan in his messages: you can't use letters in phone numbers but you can in e-mail. In file 475 Conan confirms again that what Vermouth sent was an e-email and discovers that #969#6261 is the boss' e-mail address. A note by Gosho Aoyama says that in real life e-mail addresses can't have "#", but he decided that in the Conanverse they can to avoid pranks; of course it this was a phone number he would have done things differently, using a real telephone numbering plan (like 0858 for Tottori) and only using symbols that can't be used in the second part of the number to avoid pranks, but since e-mail addresses are (unlike phone numbers) totally unrelated from from where you live it doesn't matter where the impossible symbols are positioned in the number. Still in file 475, Agasa asks Conan if he sent an e-mail to the boss, which he denies; he sais that he wants Takagi to investigate that address, while Ai thinks the address is like Pandora's box. In file 479, Conan is about to write an e-mail: we can read the address (#969#6261, which by mistake became #696#6261 in the anime) but he hasn't started yet writing it, and he decides not to do so. In file 499, Conan sees Yoko calling someone, and thinks of the fact that now everytime he sees someone using a cell phone he is reminded of Vermouth and the boss' e-mail address, and also thinks of Ai saying the address is like Pandora's box. At the end of that file and the beginning of file 500 Conan hears Rena dialing Nanatsu no Ko and then she is called by Gin: she informs Gin that she only had a small problem which she just informed Anokata via e-mail. Still in file 500, Ai asks Conan if he is sure that Rena is from the BO, and Conan answers that she sent an e-mail to their boss an then received a phone call from Gin. In file 595, Ran says Esuke told her he heard someone (Kusuda) dial an e-email address that sounded like Nanatsu no Ko. Eisuke mistook Kusuda for a colleague of his father because Ethan was a mole inside the BO, and thus sent various e-mail to an address that sounded like Nanatsu no Ko; Eisuke asked what was this sound, and Ethan answered he was sending an e-mail to "his boss" (the BO boss). In file 605 James says that it is better if Eisuke gets into the witness protection program since he knows the BO boss' mail address. --87.8.35.181 12:11, 12 December 2014 (CET)