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Akai does too although she never explicitly says he does. It isn't surprising since he infiltrated the Black Org. before under the alias Moroboshi Dai where he received the codename Rye and worked under Gin. He freaks out Haibara in the "P and A" case<ref name=P&A>Manga Volume 32 File 9 Page 12: P&A</ref> and also in the "Dark Footprint" arc.<ref name=New_Weapon>Manga Volume 38 File 1 Page 18: The New Weapon</ref> There were no other agents around both of these times that could cause her to feel the aura.
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Akai's presence causes Haibara to react badly although she never explicitly says Akai has the scent. It isn't surprising since he infiltrated the [[Black Organization]] before with the alias Moroboshi Dai where he received the codename Rye and worked under [[Gin]]. Akai's presence frightens Haibara in the "P and A" case<ref name=P&A>Manga Volume 32 File 9 Page 12: P&A</ref> and also in the "Dark Footprint" case.<ref name=New_Weapon>Manga Volume 38 File 1 Page 18: The New Weapon</ref> In both cases, there were no other Organization operatives around that could have caused Haibara to feel the aura.
  
 
===Conan doesn't want Okiya to learn much about Shinichi - because Conan is paranoid even around friendlies===
 
===Conan doesn't want Okiya to learn much about Shinichi - because Conan is paranoid even around friendlies===

Revision as of 20:22, 19 December 2010

Start for what should become the part of the speculation page for Okiya's identity. For now its a copy paste out of the stuff I did at DCTP. I'll page move it if people agree it is satisfactory.


Contents

Suggestive evidence that Okiya is Akai

Okiya and Akai have similar appearance and habits

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Okiya and Akai have similar faces

Subaru Okiya and Shuichi Akai have a similar face shape and similar heights. When Ran Mouri kicked Okiya’s jaw,[1] it was clear Okiya was not wearing a mask.[2] Akai looks similar enough to Okiya that a wig and glasses are the only props needed for his disguise. He could have also had his hair straightened and dyed as well. It is unclear if Okiya has the Akai-like cheekbone lines due to his hair covering that part of his face. Akai probably wears glasses with an incorrect prescription so he is forced to squint on purpose like Genta’s dad did in the "Boar Scroll" case.[3] Akai and Okiya both share the habit of putting their hands into their pockets. Also, they both tend to wear long sleeved business-like ensembles with high collars.

Okiya and Akai are both left handed

Examples of Akai's left handedness

  • Akai prepares to attack one of the bus jackers with his left hand. (289)
  • Akai's handgun in is his left waist-high pocket meaning it must be drawn with his left hand. (354)
  • Akai's handling of the rifle indicates a left handed preference. He holds it with a left handed style grip, puts the rifle over his left shoulder while keeping his finger on the trigger, and pumps the rifle in flashy way using only his left hand. (434)
  • This is another example of Akai's left handed preference with rifles. He uses his left eye to look through the scope with his left ring finger on the trigger and his right hand stabilizing which is the same way Gin, a known leftie, is holding his rifle. (504)
  • Akai uses his left hand to pull back a curtain. (599)
  • Akai uses his left hand to pull out can of coffee, open it one handed, and pick the can up when he drops it. (600)

Examples of Okiya's left handedness

  • Okiya is brushing his teeth with his left hand. (638)
  • Okiya rips a paper out of his notebook and writes on it with his left hand. (639)
  • Okiya pushes up his glasses with left hand. (640)
  • Okiya is holding his glass of bourbon with his left hand. (640)
  • Okiya knocks away a knife using his left hand. (666)
  • Okiya is using his left hand to hold the spatula while stir-frying onions. (691)
  • Okiya is holding Conan's glasses in his left hand. (755)

Conan trusts Okiya despite Haibara's misgivings

Conan is paranoid; his trust around Okiya would be out of character for him if there wasn't a good reason for it. He didn't trust Jodie Starling even though he knew that she was probably an FBI agent unless she could prove that Dr. Araide was Vermouth.[4] Conan easily lends Okiya the keys to his house.[5] Conan also trusts Okiya to help in cases that put him in close contact with both Ai Haibara and him, like switching out the gasoline in a container for water to solve a case,[6] or calling him to pick up everyone when Agasa’s car broke down[7], etc… Also, Conan doesn’t mind the fact that Okiya is around Haibara.

Conan lied to Haibara about why he trusts Okiya

"A Holmes fan can't be a bad person!"[5]: this is a poor excuse. There was an entire murder case where all the suspects were Holmes fans.[8] Conan didn't trust any of them. The password for the APTX data in "Reunion With the Black Corps"[9] was “Sherringford” – one of the names Sir Arthur C. Doyle considered for his protagonist before choosing “Sherlock Holmes,” a likely indication that someone in the B.O. is a fan of the detective. Conan’s knowing expression when he lets Okiya stay next door clearly shows he has another reason for why he trusts Okiya.[5]

Conan seems to know about Okiya’s address despite having never met him

In the "Red, White and Yellow" case,[10] Conan seems to recognize the address Okiya was staying at despite never having met Okiya before. This reaction would make sense if Akai told Conan where he was living while in disguise. While Okiya must have lived there long enough though for the landlord's son to recognize his flower watering habits, the passage of time in DC is difficult to judge. Also, Okiya watered the plants everyday when no one else did previously, which means the kid could notice when the garden improved after a few days of care.

Ran feels like she has seen Okiya before

Ran feels like she has seen Okiya from somewhere.[11] Ran has met Akai three times that she can remember: once in New York City,[12] in a restaurant,[13] and another time after the "Dark Footprint" arc.[14] Ran's hunches are also reliable; in the "Shirigami" case[15] Ran acted abnormally around the fake Shinichi despite not consciously knowing the reason.

"Okiya Subaru", "Moroboshi Dai", and "Akai Shuuichi" are all references to Mobile Suit Gundam character Char Aznable.

The “Akai” (meaning red) part of Akai’s name refers to Mobile Suit Gundam character Char Aznable’s nickname “Red comet.” “Shuuichi” is a reference to the voice actor of Char Aznable, Ikeda Shuuichi (who incidentally became Akai’s voice actor too). Moroboshi Dai, the alias Akai used while he was undercover in the Syndicate, comes from part of Char's real name, Casval Rem Deikun, with "Dei" pronounced as "Dai" (ダイ) in Japanese. In Moroboshi (諸星), the first kanji can be broken up into 言者 which when pronounced as げんしゃ (gensho) sounds very similar to the word for "phenomenon" (genshou). The second character (星) means "star". Moroboshi, read as "Star phenomenon" references falling stars or maybe comets. “Okiya Subaru” is a pun on Char Aznable’s real name which is キャスバル “Kiyasubaru” (romanized as 'Casval').[16]

No multi-case character has ever died in Detective Conan.

Excluding than Akai's apparent death, Gosho Aoyama has never killed off any character who has been in more than one case, much less a protagonist. The closest situation was the flashback to the death of Jinpei Matsuda in "The Trembling Police Headquarters" arc,[17] but it was stated he died at the outset. Gosho has had 600 chapters to set a precedent.

Rebuttals of arguments that Okiya is a member of the Black Organization

Okiya drinks a bottle of bourbon - Akai likes bourbon whiskey

Okiya was drinking bourbon at the end of the Paper Airplane case.[18] A similar situation was used to misleadingly hint that the FBI agent Jodie was Vermouth when she drank sherry.[19] Also FBI Agent Andre Camel noted that bourbon is Akai's favorite drink.[20]

Okiya is smart and detective-like just like Bourbon - but so is Akai

According to CIA agent Kir, Bourbon is a smart detective-like fellow who excels at gathering information. Akai is also smart and a decent detective as well. He managed to find James Black in the "P&A" case[21] although it wasn't stated how he did it. In the "Black Impact!" case,[22] he figured out Kogoro Mouri would be a target well in advance. In the Kir arc, Akai uncovered the identity of Ethan Hondou as a CIA agent. He noticed Kir was faking her coma while she was being kept in a the hospital. Akai could deduce the FBI's plan to escape with Kir just by seeing the three identical vans and secretly adapted it in order to return Kir to the organization.

Okiya triggers Haibara's black org senses - Akai does too

Akai's presence causes Haibara to react badly although she never explicitly says Akai has the scent. It isn't surprising since he infiltrated the Black Organization before with the alias Moroboshi Dai where he received the codename Rye and worked under Gin. Akai's presence frightens Haibara in the "P and A" case[23] and also in the "Dark Footprint" case.[24] In both cases, there were no other Organization operatives around that could have caused Haibara to feel the aura.

Conan doesn't want Okiya to learn much about Shinichi - because Conan is paranoid even around friendlies

Conan hid all his pictures and family albums and told Ran not to talk about Shinichi around Okiya. As stated before, Conan is a paranoid person even when he is pretty sure the people he is cooperating with are friendlies. He didn't trust Jodie right up until Vermouth revealed herself.[4] Limiting the number of people who know information that could get everyone around you killed is a good idea in general. The syndicate has gotten the better of the FBI in past cases and the org probably spies on the FBI heavily. Thus if it isn’t necessary, Conan would probably prefer the FBI doesn’t know his true identity.

Ran has the feeling she shouldn't talk about Shinichi with Okiya - because Akai is scary

Ran has the feeling she shouldn't talk about Shinichi with Okiya.[25] Akai is a pretty intense person – he is described as an evil-eyed man by Conan.[26] Also, Akai seriously frightened Ran during their first meeting in New York which would lead to negative association.[12] Also, she may be picking up on Akai's curiosity towards Shinichi which simply makes her nervous after Conan warned her about it.

Okiya gave a cryptic answer why his favorite color is black - because Akai worked in the Org

Okiya declared that his favorite is black, "because it covers things inside me that I don't want known", although he hates the color for the same reason.[27] The reason for this is Akai worked in the organization as a mole, and he probably had to commit quite a few crimes in order to gain enough trust to progress up the Syndicate’s ranks. It’s actually very stressful for undercover spies. It’s no surprise why Akai would hate the color black too. Also Akai is generally a cryptic sort of person.

"Conan is letting Okiya stay at his home to spy on him" - too dangerous for Conan to try

While the saying goes, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer", this is a ridiculous idea because Conan would be putting everyone he cares about in danger. There is no way that Conan would let a potential B.O. agent live near Haibara since, as neighbors, they have a high chance of meeting. A syndicate agent with any observational talent would figure out Haibara was Sherry. Anyone who knows her would probably be murdered. Also, by letting Okiya live in the house, it is certain that Okiya will find out Shinichi is alive. Conan himself basically told Okiya that Shinichi was alive when loaning his house keys out. If Okiya were a B.O. agent, that would mean an inevitable death sentence for everyone Conan knows, including Ran, because the B.O. would want to erase everyone who might know Shinichi was still alive and what he was investigating since Shinichi may have left compromising hints or the like. Basically, a B.O. agent living next door who isn’t Vermouth or similar is a death sentence. Conan previously acknowledged that his house would be one of the best places so spy on Haibara and him from.[28] It stands to reason that he might consider an ally like Akai living there a bonus, especially since the new agent Bourbon is wandering around, despite the risk of Akai figuring out that Conan is Shinichi.

"Conan is making a mistake thinking Okiya is Akai when he isn’t" - not likely

In general, this theory seems implausible because it depends too much on the idea that Conan is making a really dumb mistake. It would be out of character for Conan. If Conan were to think Okiya might be Akai then clearly Akai had a plan to fake his death with Hidemi’s help. The person impersonating Akai would have had to know Conan was in on it too in order to successfully fool Conan. So far the only B.O. agent known to suspect Conan is Vermouth. In "Silent Clash",[29] it was shown that Okiya is not Vermouth because they both appeared at the same time. Also, there is the basic problem of how did she or any other agent for that matter get the critical information necessary to impersonate Akai as Okiya since Akai, Conan, and Kir planned out everything in secrecy? Also, if an agent besides Vermouth managed to get ahold of this information, then Kir, Conan and Haibara would probably be dead by now.

What was up with that line of Okiya's about "I've known his face..."? - it was a secret message for Conan

In "Silent Clash", Okiya says something mysterious about seeing someone familiar from the Teito bank heist.[30] It was a message for Conan. Conan knows from what Okiya said that he had seen scar Akai, and Okiya's comments that, "Actually, I happened to see him on that floor. Unfortunately, it seems he wasn't who I thought he was, so I didn't talk to him. I've known his face for a very long time... There's no way I could be mistaken."[31] You can parse his quote this way: "Actually, I happened to see that person who looked like Akai on that floor. This Akai wasn't the real Akai (since I'm the real one), and I didn't confront him. Being the real Akai, this scar Akai is obviously someone else..." Okiya is layering his conversation with a second meaning, confirming there is someone disguising as Akai, for Conan's benefit, and Conan is a bit surprised and nervous about the info since someone in the Org most likely is Scar Akai since they have the motive.

Rebuttals of theories that Okiya is someone else

Okiya is probably NOT a third party or new character

Okiya is unlikely to be a third party because he knows about Conan's tracking glasses and the detective badges.[32] Conan has never used the tracking glasses in front of Okiya. A third party would not be privy to Conan's gadgets. The mechanism to operate Conan's glasses isn't obvious, so only someone who knows about their existence beforehand could recognize the glasses at Agasa's and figure out how to activate the tracking function. Akai Shuuichi could have heard about the glasses in several ways. The first source is when James Black was kidnapped while he had Ayumi's detective badge. Conan used the badge to track down James Black. James was waiting to meet with Akai before he was kidnapped and drove away with Akai after he was rescued. Akai could have also heard about the tracking function from Jodie when Conan chased after Kir to prevent an assassination. Finally, Akai may also know about them from when Haibara borrowed the glasses to find Conan at the shipping yards in climax of the Vermouth arc. He was present at the time and would have seen Haibara wearing them even though she has never worn glasses when Akai had seen her previously.

Okiya is NOT Kudo Yuusaku

This is a much stronger theory than the Okiya is a member of the Org theory, but there are some contradictions I can come up with.

  1. Okiya is left handed while Kudo Yuusaku appears to be right handed based although he may be ambidextrous.[33]
  2. If Okiya was Yuusaku, why would Conan hide information about himself and family albums and the like from his own father? It is pointless because Yuusaku already knows Conan’s secret and probably also knows Haibara's as well given that she was comfortable passing an antidote for Shinichi off to them during the London case.[34] At the very least Yukiko knows.[35]
  3. Ran has the feeling she shouldn’t talk about Shinichi in front of Okiya.[25] Why would Shinichi’s father, even in disguise, give her those vibes?
  4. It seems unusual that Prof. Agasa wouldn’t have felt like he knew Okiya from somewhere considering that Yuusaku is a close friend and old neighbor of his.
  5. Okiya gives Haibara the black org vibes. Yuusaku as far as we know was never in the org and it would require a conspiracy on the part of Yuusaku to keep the knowledge of his dark past from his son. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
  6. Okiya seems to recognize scar Akai.[36] There is no known connection between scar Akai and Yuusaku although there definitely is one if Okiya is Akai. As in 5 it would require a conspiracy on Yuusaku’s part which to date there is no evidence of.

Okiya is NOT Kaito Kid.

Okiya is unlikely to be Kaito Kid since there is no evidence suggesting this is the case. Kid doesn't give Haibara the dark vibes in "Kichiemon's Crazy Mansion" case[37] or Kirin's Horn case[38] when he is disguise or in his full Kaito Kid regalia.

Scar Akai is not the real Akai

Scar Akai is right handed, not left handed like Akai

Scar Akai used his right hand to fire a handgun and to hand back a cellphone. It is unlikely scar Akai is simply using his right hand because he injured his left. In the "Teito Bank Heist",[39] he easily escaped the duct tape binding his hands, yet probably did not use the same method that Jodie used [40] because there was still duct tape over his mouth.[41] It doesn't make much sense for him to put the duct tape back his mouth again afterwards. Removing it with only one hand, especially if it's his off hand, would be difficult especially if robbers are watching you. (His eyes were covered so scar Akai couldn't be sure that no one was watching until the robbers pretended to be hostages which would give him only a few minutes to escape.) Switching handedness after head trauma does not appear to have been documented in scientific literature. That is not to say Gosho wouldn't consider using head trauma as an excuse to switch handedness, but it means that the concept lacks a precedent.

Scar Akai's behavior does not make sense if he is Akai

If scar Akai is the real Akai, one must assume he either has his memory or he doesn't have it. If he has his memory, Akai would absolutely not wander around in the open since it puts Hidemi (Kir) at risk with no gains to be made from doing so. The Organization's actions in the "Thirteen Red Shirts" case[42] demonstrate the danger.

If Akai does not have his memory, then it is plausible Akai would walk around in the open without knowing the danger he is in, however Akai's actions strongly suggest his memory is still intact. He seems to be stalking the FBI by appearing before them: something he would not do if he had lost all of his memory. Further emphasizing the point, Akai also apparently left a warning message to Jodie on her drink coaster during the events of the thirteen red shirts case. If perhaps he recognized the FBI a little and felt comfortable enough to leave Jodie a message, it is strange that he would not speak to the FBI agents since Scar Akai is clearly capable of speaking.[43] Scar Akai also appears to recognize Chianti.[44] Would you smile at a sniper if you had no idea who you were?

A more reasonable explanation is that Scar Akai is not Akai and avoided speaking because he is unable to imitate Akai's voice. The person in disguise as Akai is trying to gauge from the FBI's reactions whether the real Akai is dead or not.

Gin's actions suggest that he doesn't think Scar Akai is the real Akai

Since Gin called Hidemi in the "Thirteen Red Shirts" case,[42] he has held a gun to her head the entire time. When Scar Akai leaves the department store in "Silent Clash", Gin observes him.[45] After he gives the order for Chianti to leave, he lowers the gun from Hidemi's head.[46] While Gin might not have wanted to shoot someone in front of a busy department store crawling with cops with an unsilenced gun, if he thought that Hidemi was a traitor who had helped Akai fake his death, Gin would not have lowered his gun since Hidemi may attempt to retaliate in some fashion now that her cover has been blown. The lowering of the gun is concession on Gin's part that he knows or strongly suspects scar Akai isn't the real Akai.

References

  1. ^ Manga Volume 61 File 8 pg 9: Paper Airplane
  2. ^ The sound effect ガｯ denotes an impact. http://www.nihongoresources.com/sfxbrowse/?action=giongo&section=dictionaries&page=onomatopoeia&sub=&search=&category=onomatopoeia&english=&submit=+search%3E+
  3. ^ Manga Volume 63 File 8 pg 15: Truth about the Contest
  4. ^ a b Manga Volume 42 File 9 Pages 11-12: The Truth Behind the Mask. Note that Conan is disguising as Haibara. Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "The_Truth" defined multiple times with different content
  5. ^ a b c Manga Volume 60 File 5: The New Neighbor Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "Neighbor" defined multiple times with different content
  6. ^ Manga Volume 61 File 7: Crackle
  7. ^ Manga Volume 61 File 5: Burn
  8. ^ Manga Volume 12 Files 7-10, Volume 13 File 1: Holmes Freak Murder Case
  9. ^ Manga Volume 24 File 10 Page 11: The Bullet from the Past
  10. ^ Manga Volume 60 File 3 Page 8: Red, White and Yellow
  11. ^ Manga Volume 61 File 8 Page 13: Paper Airplane
  12. ^ a b Manga Volume 35 File 4 Page 2: Title Golden Apple
  13. ^ Manga Volume 33 File 1 Page 14: Sato's Engagement Bet
  14. ^ Manga Volume 37 File 8 Page 1: White Snow, Black Shadow
  15. ^ Manga Volume 62 File 10 Page 7: True Identity
  16. ^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char_Aznable
  17. ^ Manga Volume 36 Files 5-11, Volume 37 File 1: Trembling Police Headquarters
  18. ^ Manga Volume 61 File 10 Page 16: Rescue
  19. ^ Manga Volume 34 File 4 Page 4: Who Are You?
  20. ^ Manga Volume 65 File 3 Pages 3-4: The Fated Individual
  21. ^ Manga Volume 32 File 8-10: The Man from Chicago
  22. ^ Manga Volume 48 File 10, Volume 49 Files 1-4: Black Impact!
  23. ^ Manga Volume 32 File 9 Page 12: P&A
  24. ^ Manga Volume 38 File 1 Page 18: The New Weapon
  25. ^ a b Manga Volume 61 File 9 Page 6: Message
  26. ^ Manga Volume 57 File 11 Page 5: The Fake Patient
  27. ^ Manga Volume 60 File 4 Page 7: Kuroshiro-kun
  28. ^ Manga Volume 42 File 5 Page 12: The Full Moon and the Trap at the Banquet
  29. ^ Manga Volume 67 File 8 Page 11: Silent Clash
  30. ^ Manga Volume 65 Files 3-5: Detective Boys vs. Burglar Gang
  31. ^ Manga Volume 67 File 8 Page 16: Silent Clash
  32. ^ Chapter 755 page 14: Communications Code
  33. ^ Manga Volume 6 File 1 Page 12: The Truth Under The Mask
  34. ^ File 752 Page 16: A Troublesome and Difficult Case
  35. ^ Manga Volume 41 File 4 Page 11: Darkness is the Door to a Death Trap
  36. ^ Manga Volume 67 File 6 Page 16: The Bomber's Aim
  37. ^ Manga Volume 46 Files 7-10: Strange Mansion Adventure
  38. ^ Manga Volume 68 File 5-8: Kid vs. the Four Spirits of the Detective Boys
  39. ^ Manga Volume 65 File 5: Shaking Heart
  40. ^ Manga Volume 65 File 5 Page 6: The Trap
  41. ^ Manga Volume 65 File 5 Page 14 : Shaking Heart
  42. ^ a b Manga Volume 67 File 5-8: 13 Red Shirts case
  43. ^ Manga Volume 68 File 5 Page 5: Silent Clash
  44. ^ Manga Volume 68 File 5 Page 5: Silent Clash
  45. ^ Manga Volume 68 File 5 Page 10: Silent Clash
  46. ^ Manga Volume 68 File 5 Page 13: Silent Clash
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