Talk:Akai's fake death technique

How did he fake his death with the help of Conan if he doesn't know if he's dead or not?

Conan knew Akai faked his death, he and Akai and Kir planned it together. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 20:03, 2 November 2014 (CET)

Would the complete information really be released regarding the condition of Rikumichi's corpse? Certainly the BO has its ways, but how much information would they know about where the gunshot was, etc.? Ki-RBT (talk) 02:14, 3 November 2014 (CET)

If you are caught up in the manga, it is revealed how Amuro got that information. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 03:14, 3 November 2014 (CET)

I had a feeling it was. Looking around, I didn't see any citations as to the exact chapter, do you know? Ki-RBT (talk) 03:56, 3 November 2014 (CET)

It's in the article. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 08:54, 3 November 2014 (CET)

I think I see what you are referring to, but I meant specifics - not just basic information (head shot) that they got later on. As in, is there any indication as to whether or not they ever obtained autopsy records regarding the body that they then thought was Shuuichi, making one of the points in 'problems with this theory' irrelevant? If the only indication they had as to the state of the body was regarding what they expected (head shot, lung shot, burns, etc.), which is of course the least they would have worked to get, then it wouldn't matter much if the shot was to the temple rather than the forehead, and the later addition of a lung shot might not matter either. What I really mean is, where does it mention how in-depth their intelligence on the subject was? Ki-RBT (talk) 01:43, 4 November 2014 (CET)

Flaws section

Apologies for the flash suppressor edit. Still, if a flash suppressor alone wouldn't protect his face, would it and a Muzzle break do the trick? Probably not, and there likely would be no way to hide both, either. Still, while I agree that reality was ignored in favor of dramatic license, for the outside-universe reason, but, for an in-universe reason of why Akai's face is unscarred, it would likely fall along the lines of "gun with hidden muzzle break and hidden flash suppressor." DCUniverseAficionado (talk) 20:24, 24 April 2015 (CEST)

There is no need to apologize for anything because you did nothing wrong. It's just the edit/revert/talk page process in action, which is a great thing because that means the wiki is working as intended.

Personally, I am okay with discussing this problem (and others like it) in an out-of-universe fashion because it means that we don't have to contort the truth to make it fit the narrative. Enforcing a global Watsonian perspective would inhibit the wiki's ability to address errors and omissions plainly. Gosho and his crew are hardly perfect when it comes to firearms and it's okay to acknowledge the flaws. For instance, when Akai sniped Gin, his rifle was right handed and it would have been very clumsy for him to operate the bolt left-handed and maintain a bead on Gin.

I do think it sounds like a good idea to suggest some additional ways (besides wadded blanks) that might have been able to solve the problem. "A flash suppressor attached the handgun's muzzle might have been able to redirect the majority of the burning hot gas. If one was used it would have been visible." I would draw the line at trying to suggest this is what actually happened in manga. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 03:42, 25 April 2015 (CEST)

Yeah, I can be a bit apologetic at times, so...

More to the point—so there's no way to hide a flash suppressor, huh? Considering the small window of time Conan/Shinichi and co. had, I don't think Agasa could've made a gun with hidden flash suppressor, and, even if he had, there would be the risk of Gin giving Kir a different kind of gun. By the way, what pistol did Kir shoot Shuichi with? A Beretta is my guess, but I could be off the mark.

I agree about avoiding the global Watsonian perspective, but, more often than not, I try to find explanations other than, "the people making this work of fiction screwed up," not because I'm trying to give them a free pass, but because I want to make sure there are acceptable alternative explanations to the most obvious out-of-universe explanation that comes up when things happen that throw viewers/readers for a loop. That's my view, anyway–I completely understand, accept, and support people taking issue with something unrealistic that breaks suspension of disbelief–I, myself, just don't have those kinds of issues with fiction.