User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin

Welcome!

Hello there, Chekhov! Glad to see that you're here! Feel free to contribute your great threads/theories on DCTP. CarpetCrawler^{message me} 21:24, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

RE: Congrats on becoming a mod at DCTP

Thank you for the kind words!! BTW, glad to see that you'll be doing some work for the wiki once again. If you have any questions about how things work (Though it's pretty similar to how it works at Wikipedia), let me know. Looking forward to see what you'll do here!! CarpetCrawler^{message me} 17:24, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

RE: Template standardization

First of all, thanks for the initiative! :) Regarding the template, I'd convert it into a "DCW"-flavored layout (so that we're not too much like wikipedia in the way we present things - plus we like to focus on presentation, readability and attractiveness/user-friendliness in our own unique way). For example, songs have the pink color here in this wiki. It's alright, I'll have a quick look if you don't mind and see how nice I can make it look like. As for the documentation, we don't really use the Doc template here since we're certainly not as big as wikipedia (which does need to centralize a lot of their processes). We can simply include a "usage" section in the template itself in between <noinclude> tags, a bit like how it was done here: Template:InfoBox_Music. I hope that answers your questions! Btw, don't forget to edit Anokata to redirect the link to the song to its local page here. Keep up the great work! :) --Maurice 20:22, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! :) I also just added a video to the song! Quite a nice melancholic song. --Maurice 23:18, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Confusion

I are you sure Ethan Hondou is one of the Black Organization? I don't see him on the chart. --S261157 18:48, 2 January 2011(UTC)

Understood

I see. I understand. Anyway, I put Ethan Hondou back in Black Organization. --S261157 23:56, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Is Okiya a Rival to Scar meaning Scar is Not BO but likely FBI

The way I see it is that the way Okiya reacted to Scar no getting shot leads me to believe they are not enemies but rivals. A enemy would be glad at the others misfortune. Okiya remark smiling "wolfs missing their prey". To me it seems like he was glad scar was not killed. if Scar had been Okiya's Enemy, I would have expected a remark like "Rats! he is still alive" Also suggesting Okiya is a rival to Scar is Okiya reaction to Conan about how Conan prevent Scar getting killed again with that smile. He seem glad Conan interfered, and did not say something to Conan like "why do you do that" -sstimson-

It's nice to see you stop by!

Going by the Endless Youth translation... "It's just a silly story about how some stupid wolves let their prey get away."

My interpretation of that quote was that Okiya was being ironic. If you go by the theory that scar Akai is Bourbon, Okiya noticed scar Akai was on the floor with him and that Chianti was set up to kill someone. Okiya realized that the person the BO was after was scar Akai, and that Gin and friends had made a mistake. Okiya knew scar Akai managed to safely get away without being shot because there was no panic about someone being shot outside the store. His comment was a sarcastic remark that the "stupid wolves" (BO) who were trying to kill their own agent by mistake not only let the guy they were trying to kill (scar Akai) get away, but they also completely overlooked the real Akai (Okiya). Okiya called it a silly story because the mixup made the BO look foolish.

Okiya already figured out why Conan acted to keep scar Akai from being shot; Conan wanted to keep everyone safe without knowing the full situation. Also Conan is the type that wouldn't want to let anyone die, even a murderer or a member of the BO, and I think Okiya can appreciate that viewpoint.

Even if you go by the theory that Scar Akai is Bourbon and Okiya is Akai, it could be that Akai views Bourbon more as a "rival enemy" rather than a "mortal enemy" like Gin. We know that Bourbon hates Akai, but Akai might not view Bourbon with the same amount of hate. Chekhov MacGuffin 19:14, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I think by the time Conan "called" customers back in. He did not know Okiya was there. He assume Scar Akai is real Akai so he try to save him. -User 4869

I don't think Conan was sure who scar Akai was at the time. His "Could it..." "Could it be..." may be followed up by "Bourbon?" or "Vermouth?" because I'm sure, following the bank heist, Conan thinks it doesn't make sense that Akai was out of disguise in public and would happen to appear at a place where the FBI were. (Remember Conan knows Okiya is Akai) After the bank heist, Conan is probably leaning towards the real Akai not being a fool and that someone was impersonating him for some reason, probably a member of the Org. Conan's only info comes from the DB, so he might think scar Akai could be Vermouth who might act to save hm from the bank robber.

Back at the dept store, when Jodie grabbed him, Conan had a really nervous expression, but it changed when Jodie mentioned the coaster with the warning Akai's writing on it. I think Conan becomes confused because leaving a warning like that is something the real Akai might do, so he decides to protect whoever this scar Akai is now and figure it out later. Luckily Okiya steps in and clarifies things for Conan with his "I know that person from a long time ago" quote. Chekhov MacGuffin 17:17, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Can you Check something for me?

I made a new article : http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Cuff_Link_Speakers

Can you check the Romanji Name for it? I used a translator and got kafurinkusupiikaa above some japanese words. Thankss

BTW Thanks for editing!

Next Conan's hint, Bullet?

In the the anime version of the Teito bank heist case, scar Akai's scar and the skin where the duct tape which had covered his eyes are visible. In the manga, it is much more ambiguous; the gun and the shadow of the hat scar Akai is wearing hide the scar and the part of his face where the tape had been removed from his eyes. If Scar Akai is someone wearing a mask this could result in an anime error.

What is your opinion of "Next Conan's hint" from Episode 503 (which is bullet) since in next episode (504) only time bullets were use is when Kir shot Akai. Can it be interpret as "The bullet is fake" You appear to avoid to mention non-conan scene when Okiya appear in the same time as Kaitou Kid to prove Okiya is not Kid. I wonder if you discard the Hint thing for the same reason. -User 4869-

Yeah, I tend to avoid using things from the anime as evidence since it is unreliable for hints. They make mistakes like turning Fusae Campbell and Billy into generic looking shadow people when they followed the detective boys, and even recently messing up scar Akai's shooting scene. (See picture at right) The bullet could be a hint that Akai was going to "die", or that a "silver bullet" was involved, or maybe Gosho tipped off the animators and it really was a hint the bullets were blanks. Who knows? Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 05:45, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah, here's a link you might be interested in: Fusae Campbell#Plot overview. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 07:46, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah

I know this is probably the most pointless talk page message you're ever gonna get, but I'm glad to see someone else do what I did with the signature!! :O CarpetCrawler^{message me} 08:49, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I didn't realize, but now I think they look too similarly themed. I will have to rectify that somehow.Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk

Bleh. Messed around a bit, but didn't find a style I liked that fit in the sig char limit requirements. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 18:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Elena Miyano and Atsushi Miyano

Sure thing. Just did it. --Maurice 23:19, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Grammar Changes

I changed the Grammar a little bit from Gin and Akai Shuuichi and Gin and Sherry. Great Articles BTW! -- Cheesus

Re: Plot overviews

Okay, I get the point. However, personally I would recommend establishing Plot Overviews on their own entry pages, as I think that for sone characters these would get too extensive, even in abbreviated form, for the main description to hold comfortably. A link (for instance "See: Conan Edogawa key situations" or something) leading to those entries would be suggested.
In addition, I think it would also be better if the Character Background included a brief summary of how the character was introduced to Detective Conan. I noticed that you re-added the sections describing how Heiji Hattori had first met and eventually found out about Shinichi/Conan's secret to the Plot Overview section. From the narrative style angle, I personally say: not recommendable. The character's introduction should blend into the respective Background as smoothly as possible, and then the Plot Overview can flesh out the details of he first meetings and then pick up from there. At least, that's how I would have done it.
And by the way, one last message: The section you re-added to Sango Yokomizo's Personality section about him having never learned to swim is already included in the Background section and is therefore a bit superfluous.Daniel46 17:21, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Precisely what I'm talking about! For instance, Heiji's and Kazuha's backgrounds should in any case include how they first met Conan and company and how friendly relationships were established, something I have relocated to the Background sections in some cases. Finer and more details should be contained in the Plot Overviews, like, for Ai Haibara, her encounters with the Black Organization, how her love interest - if she really gets one - evolves in the series etc., while the gist of it should be mentioned in the Background section, if it significantly shapes her character evolvement. I think the summarization work I've done so far should serve as an adequate example for this style.Daniel46 18:29, 15 January 2011 (UTC)