User talk:Jimmy-kud0-tv2

Hi

You were forgetting File 6-8 from Detective Conan Special Volume, Jimmy-Kud0-tv2. What are their ages from Special Volume 2? --Arringtastic1992 20:02, 12 October 2015 (CEST)

Response
Hello, I have not added images for files 6-8 of Special Volume 2 because I have not scanned them yet. All of the other images I added for Special Volume 1 and 2 are images that I scanned myself from my own volumes. My access to the scanner I have been using is limited which is why I didn't just do all of that in the same day. Also, my Japanese is limited so I can't really read all of the chapter, so I'm not sure about all of the details of each case. I am able to understand just enough Japanese to be able to get their names. HOWEVER, in the Detective Conan Special Manga the suspects, victims, ect don't have name boxes like the main manga does, so I don't think we are told their ages. Some of their professions are mentioned, but I don't fully understand what is being said so I didn't put anything because I didn't want to be wrong.

If you know of a place where there are scans for further volumes, I'd be happy to help get them put up on the wiki, but I can only go as fast as I can scan, and I can only scan as fast as I actually have access to a scanner. Currently I only have access to the first 6 physical volumes, but am planning to buy the next 6 so I will have 12 total. They could take as much as a month and a half before arriving though...

--Jimmy_kud0_tv2

Thanks for dealing with that troll

He's probably 11 because who else thinks peak edginess is pretending to be a hacker who afflicts an anime fandom? I hope he finds some nice offline friends. Anyway, I protected the main pages because I think he won't be giving up in the short term. Thanks again for the timely reverts. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 21:42, 13 October 2015 (CEST)

Thanks for the postcards!

I'll see if I can find any that you haven't uploaded, but wow! Thanks again!!! :D Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 03:06, 24 October 2015 (CEST)

Response
I actually just pulled all of those from that imgur link you made with all of them in it from earlier in the year that I saved the link to the top of the Animal Crossings / Post cards thread from DCTP and cropped them down to just the text. If better resolutions or cleaning needs to be done to some of them that can be done as needed at later dates, I just wanted to get some form of copy of them up on the page for now. Since my Japanese is limited, I probably won't be able to help translate them, but many of the translations (or partial translations/paraphrased translations) can be found on that DCTP thread and be copied over in the same way that the Animal Crossings translations were. http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12705 --Jimmy-kud0-tv2 (talk) 03:47, 24 October 2015 (CEST)

You appear to have a similar project with another user

I'm not sure about the details, but you might consider joining efforts with Chukichi in User:Jimmy-kud0-tv2/Manga By Cases‎ and User:Chukichi/List of manga cases‎. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 19:27, 29 October 2015 (CET)

I really don't know what is going on. I was thinking about making a page for myself for categorizing the manga by case to make it easier for me to find things. Last night I only made a single row for just the very first case, and when I woke up this morning Chukichi had made a chart with a lot of rows. I have not spoken to them. Their chart seems to prioritize links to the anime pages for each case, but the one I was making for myself was going to prioritize the manga information since its a list of "manga cases". I don't really know what they are doing. --Jimmy_kud0_tv2

It's fine, I was just trying to find you a collaborator if you had a project in mind. Chekhov MacGuffin ^talk 21:32, 29 October 2015 (CET)

Publication date of the manga chapters

Hi, you are doing a very good job with User:Jimmy-kud0-tv2/Manga By Cases, but are you sure the dates are all correct? Finding dates for older chapters may be hard, but this scan of Shonen Sunday issue 6 of 1994 has the date of January 26, and I think it says the second chapter is published in that issue; where did you find the date "Jan 12, 1994" for the second chapter? Also, Wikipedia reports that the first chapter was released in issue 5 on January 19; is that correct, or is your date "Jan 5, 1994" the correct one? --87.9.7.242 18:59, 6 December 2015 (CET)

This problem is one I also had difficulty understanding at first. Apparently there are two "official" dates for releases. The date the item is put on shelves in stores and the date that its ISSN number was created. In addition to that, the dates on the cover don't always line up with the dates of release. For example, the first 4 issues of Shonen Sunday for any given year are actually released in December of the previous year. Shonen Sunday Issue #3 of 2016 will be published this Wednesday, Dec 9th, 2015. The ISSN number seems to be put out about 2 weeks after the magazine releases the issue for that chapter. For chapter #1 of the series, the issue of Shonen Sunday that contained it was put out in stores on January 5th, 1994 (Shonen Sunday issue #5 1994), and its ISSN number was created on January 19th, 1994. The page I've been pulling the dates from is a chinese blog that seems to have been keeping up to date on release dates ect. ( http://bbs.aptx.cn/thread-272701-1-1.html ). Their charts go in the order of "year", "shonen sunday issue", "ISSN date", "chapter number", "actual release date", and "important events". All of the "actual release dates" for the recent chapters line up properly with the wednesday release dates for that issue listed on the website for that given week. If you scroll down far enough in that chart, it already has File 941 listed as having its ISSN number released on Jan 1st, 2016 (which is in the future), despite that it was released in stores on Dec 2nd, 2015 and we can already "read" it online. --Jimmy-kud0-tv2 (talk) 05:13, 7 December 2015 (CET)

Thanks for claryfing that. So the date on the cover is not the real publication date but is the ISSN date which is usually two weeks ahead. Should we put both dates in the table to avoid confusing the reader? Or should we only put one date and add a note that explains this? Also, do the discrepancies only regard the single chapters, or is there the same problem for the volumes? --87.9.7.94 19:50, 7 December 2015 (CET)

The ISSN is two weeks after the real publication date. I think it only counts for the individual chapters as they are "periodicals" in a magazine. The volume releases may have to have an different code number (ISBN??), but I think they have to be on the back of each individual volume in order to be sold, so I don't think they would have that problem. I may put a note for it, the actual release date is the more important of the two since it helps to compare to when certain interviews and other things that Gosho says, get said. I haven't finished or published the page yet. (originally I wasn't going to, but I guess I will). It still might take me a while to finish the page since I just started a job recently, so I've been working on it a little slower. --Jimmy-kud0-tv2 (talk) 22:45, 7 December 2015 (CET)

Good job with that note. Anyway, it seems there is also the same problem with the volumes. Let's look at Magic Kaito: the Japanese Wikipedia says the release dates of the four volumes are

15 April 1988,

15 October 1988,

15 September 1994 and

16 February 2007;

Further complicating things, the sources used by the English Wikipedia for the original four volumes actually say the dates are

18 April 1988,

18 October 1988,

17 September 1994 and

16 February 2007

however, our article Magic Kaito#Chapters says the dates are

15 May 1988,

15 November 1988,

15 October 1994 and

15 March 2007,

......................................................................

the dates of the Treasured edition are

5 August,

15 September,

18 November and

16 December 2011.

The English Wikipedia has the same dates for the four volumes, but adds that "In 2011 the first four volumes were republished in "Treasured Editions" from

August 15 to December 16" so there is a disagreement on whether the first one was released on August 5 or August 15.

while the dates of the reprints are

5 August,

16 September,

18 November and

16 December 2011;

the second reprint is the only case where our date differs from the Japanese Wikipedia. I hope things are simpler for Detective Conan volumes... --87.8.41.24 21:59, 8 December 2015 (CET)

Sorry I reorganized your comment so that I can see the dates you are talking about more clearly, but I did not delete any of the text. Ok, so after doing some looking into the dates that you have listed, I have no idea where the dates on the Japanese wikipedia page you listed came from. The ones listed on the English language wikipedia page match those listed on the Shogakukan store website, which makes them a bit more official. The dates listed on our Conan wiki page seem to be the dates of printing listed on the copyright pages inside the physical copies of the books, which seem to consistently one month after they were released (which is weird, but whatever).

To be honest, it shouldn't matter which one of them we choose, as long as we are consistent across the wiki for the volumes. The reason that I went with the release date of in store for the manga chapter list I was creating is because that is the official first reveal of that chapter to the public (even though we get online spoilers before hand). Lining up chapter release dates with things like interviews and other spoken Gosho content could be helpful for figuring things out. However, since volumes are merely bound versions of previously known content, for the most part we just need to have approximate dates. I am willing to bet though that the first 50 or so Conan volumes on the manga page have dates that match their copyright page, and the more recent ones have their in store release dates since people edit the page as soon as the volumes are announced.

Woops, forgot to address the Treasured Editions. Its entirely possible that it should be 15 August for the first one but someone made a typo on the wiki page. Then those dates were probably coppied over from that wiki page to ours. The reason I say this is because all of the other dates for these Kaito volumes seem to be between the 15th and 18th of the month of release. I'd have to find a physical copy to be absolutely sure though. My copy is on a bookshelf at another location. --Jimmy-kud0-tv2 (talk) 00:40, 9 December 2015 (CET)

Don't worry about reorganizing my comment, as I wrote it in a hurry at it wasn't well written. Anyway, I agree with you that it's more important to have the correct dates for single chapters than for the volumes; still, I hope some other user can give us his opinion and help us clarify the matter. On an unrelated topic: will your page User:Jimmy-kud0-tv2/Interview lists also include the interview found at the end of Magic Kaito volume 4? --87.8.41.24 22:03, 9 December 2015 (CET)