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| − | + | | name = Magic Kaito Organization | |
| − | + | | japanese-name = No official name | |
| − | + | | english-name = No official name | |
| − | + | | image = Snake and flunkies.png | |
| − | + | | boss = [[Magic Kaito Boss|Boss]] | |
| + | | members = [[Snake]] <br> [[Magic Kaito Sub-boss|Sub-boss]] <font size=1>(second-in-command)</font><br> [[Spider]] <font size=1>(TV specials only)</font><br> [[Rose]] <font size=1>([[OVA 4]] only)</font> | ||
| + | | first-appearance = Manga: [[Magic Kaito Volume 3#Chapter 18|MK Chapter 18]] <br> Anime: [[The Fated Blue Birthday|Episode 5]] | ||
| + | | appearances = Magic Kaito: [[Magic Kaito Organization Appearances|4]] <br> {{:Magic Kaito Organization Appearances}} | ||
| + | | footnotes = "Magic Kaito Organization" is a fan created nickname used to distinguish this organization from the [[Black Organization]] that appears in ''[[Detective Conan]]''. | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | This unnamed criminal organization is the primary antagonist in ''[[Magic Kaito]]''. The organization's goal is to acquire the [[Pandora Gem]] that grants immortality when a certain comet passes overhead. They are the true deadly enemies of [[Kaitou Kid]]. | ||
| − | ==Structure and | + | == Members == |
| − | The | + | * '''[[Snake]]''' is the primary antagonist of the series, a codenamed member who killed [[Toichi Kuroba]] and is currently searching for [[Pandora Gem]]. |
| + | * '''[[Magic Kaito Boss|The boss]]''' is highest ranking member so far. He was mentioned to exist in the manga<ref>Magic Kaito Volume 3: Blue Birthday, pg 19</ref>, and has appeared in shadow in the anime. | ||
| + | * The unnamed '''[[Magic Kaito sub-boss|sub-boss]]''' is the second-in-command and reports directly to the boss. He was initially outmatched by Kaitou Kid after inadvertently revealing the goal of the organization within earshot. | ||
| + | * '''[[Spider]]''' is a non-canon stage magician operating under the name of Gunter Von Goldberg II, he is considered "The Best Illusionist in the World". The boss ordered his/her deputy to contact him after [[Kaitou Kid]] ruined the Blue Birthday heist. | ||
| + | * '''[[Rose]]''' is a non-canon woman who worked with Snake to steal the crystal mother. She aspires to become known as the number one sniper. | ||
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| + | == Structure and rank == | ||
| + | The organization has been shown to have at least four distinct ranks. The highest is the unmentioned boss, referred to with deference by lower level members as "that person". A second-in-command who reports directly to "that person" is next down in seniority and can order around code-named agents. Codenamed agents like Snake report directly to their second-in-command and so far are only told partial information about the goal of the organization. Codenamed agents in turn manage a small squad of low level agents who wear near identical beige trenchcoats and matching fedoras. | ||
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| − | ==Goal== | + | == Goal == |
| − | [[File:Pandora.png|thumb| | + | [[File:Pandora.png|thumb|right|200px|The Pandora gem.]] |
| − | So far the the only known goal of the | + | So far the the only known goal of the organization is to find [[Pandora Gem|Pandora]], the gem which grants eternal life to the one who drinks its tears when Volley comet passes over. It is unknown what the organization intends to do with Pandora, or whether finding Pandora is their only goal rather than one facet of a larger plan. |
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| − | ==Modus operandi== | + | == Modus operandi == |
| − | + | The organization steals "big jewels" they think might be Pandora and return them to their second-in-command to be checked against the light of the moon. For some missions, the group acts in large numbers with a codenamed agent like Snake leading a group of many minor operatives. Other times codenamed agents work together without backup, as Snake and Rose were shown to do. Except for their second-in-command, all codenamed agents and their lackeys are shown to be armed at all times. So far, they do not seem to be concerned with silencers. | |
| − | The | ||
| − | The | + | The organization is clearly very rich, shown by them using an expansive traditional Japanese home with escape tunnel as a hideout. |
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| − | == Target | + | == Target jewels == |
| + | So far the organization has only targeted jewels of superlative size, typically the most massive in a particular category. Presumably they figure that the gem must be exceptionally large in order to hide the doublet Pandora within it. | ||
{{BeginTable MKTheft}} | {{BeginTable MKTheft}} | ||
| − | {{MKTheftItem| | + | {{MKTheftItem|No Image Gem.jpg|Toichi's gem| ??? | |
* [[Magic Kaito Volume 3|MKV3 - C6]] | * [[Magic Kaito Volume 3|MKV3 - C6]] | ||
| − | | In the anime, Toichi Kuroba as Kaitou Kid and the | + | | In the anime, Toichi Kuroba as Kaitou Kid and the organization both aimed to steal the same gem. The organization decided to eliminate Toichi in a deliberate stage accident because he was getting in their way. |
}} | }} | ||
{{MKTheftItem|Blue Birthday Anime.jpg|Blue Birthday|India's largest sapphire| | {{MKTheftItem|Blue Birthday Anime.jpg|Blue Birthday|India's largest sapphire| | ||
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| Blue Birthday was targeted while it was on tour at the Indian Treasure Exhibit. As the organization anticipated, Kaitou Kid stole the jewel first. Snake, leading a team of underlings, confronted Kid and grabbed his replica of Blue Birthday by mistake. Kaitou Kid revealed the jewel was not Pandora by holding it to the moonlight. | | Blue Birthday was targeted while it was on tour at the Indian Treasure Exhibit. As the organization anticipated, Kaitou Kid stole the jewel first. Snake, leading a team of underlings, confronted Kid and grabbed his replica of Blue Birthday by mistake. Kaitou Kid revealed the jewel was not Pandora by holding it to the moonlight. | ||
}} | }} | ||
| − | {{MKTheftItem| | + | {{MKTheftItem|MK17 Heist.jpg|Green Dream|World's largest emerald| |
* [[Magic Kaito Volume 3|MKV3 - C7]] | * [[Magic Kaito Volume 3|MKV3 - C7]] | ||
| The organization looked into taking Green Dream, but decided it wasn't what they were looking for after Kaitou Kid held it up to the moonlight while on stage. At the time Snake was watching the Kaitou Kid's stage performance while hiding behind the stage curtains. | | The organization looked into taking Green Dream, but decided it wasn't what they were looking for after Kaitou Kid held it up to the moonlight while on stage. At the time Snake was watching the Kaitou Kid's stage performance while hiding behind the stage curtains. | ||
}} | }} | ||
| − | {{MKTheftItem| | + | {{MKTheftItem|Crystal Mother Anime.jpg|Crystal Mother|Europe's largest topaz| |
* [[Magic Kaito Volume 4|MKV4 - C1]] | * [[Magic Kaito Volume 4|MKV4 - C1]] | ||
| − | | A prior target of Toichi's, the Red Tear is really colored blue, but its forgotten secret is that turns red and shows pictures of the Hopper family when exposed to flame. Its prior owners, Jody Hopper's parents, died in a fire which the jewel survived. Snake and some of his men tailed its current owner, Jody Hopper, and then posed as customers at dinner show performance of the Hopper Magician troupe at the Minato Hotel. The organization's theft method was to have one member pose as Kaitou Kid | + | * [[Conan, Kid, and the Crystal Mother|OVA 4]] |
| + | * [[The Tearful Crystal Mother|MK Special 11]] | ||
| + | | Owned by the queen of the Principality of Ingram (in Europe), Snake and Rose targeted this gem on the Royal Express to Osaka. Snake let Kaitou Kid steal it first, and then ascended to the train roof where he knew Kid would hide. Snake threatened the child prince of Ingram in order to get Kid to relinquish the gem, but was knocked off the train when he collided with the top of a tunnel. | ||
| + | }} | ||
| + | {{MKTheftItem|Red Tear Anime sq.jpg|Red Tear|World's greatest ruby| | ||
| + | * [[Magic Kaito Volume 4|MKV4 - C2]] | ||
| + | | A prior target of Toichi's, the Red Tear is really colored blue, but its forgotten secret is that turns red and shows pictures of the Hopper family when exposed to flame. Its prior owners, Jody Hopper's parents, died in a fire which the jewel survived. Snake and some of his men tailed its current owner, Jody Hopper, and then posed as customers at dinner show performance of the Hopper Magician troupe at the Minato Hotel. The organization's theft method was to have one member pose as Kaitou Kid, complete with functional hang glider, to draw away stationed police while Snake took the jewel at gunpoint backstage. Snake opened fire when the real Kaitou Kid interfered with the robbery. | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{EndTable}} | {{EndTable}} | ||
| − | ==Plot | + | == Plot timeline == |
| − | ===History=== | + | === History === |
| − | Eight years before the current timeline, famous magician | + | Eight years before the current timeline, famous magician Toichi Kuroba, who was Kaitou Kid at the time, was murdered by Snake at the orders of the organization in a fake magic accident. Toichi was killed because he targeted the same gem as the organization.<ref>Magic Kaito episode 5</ref> |
| − | ===Current events=== | + | === Current events === |
==== The Fated Blue Birthday ==== | ==== The Fated Blue Birthday ==== | ||
{{Main|The Fated Blue Birthday}} | {{Main|The Fated Blue Birthday}} | ||
| − | [[File:Subboss with blue birthday.png|thumb|right|Snake's boss holding Blue Birthday with the police transmitter.]] | + | [[File:Subboss with blue birthday.png|thumb|right|200px|Snake's boss holding Blue Birthday with the police transmitter.]] |
| + | Both [[Kaito Kuroba]] and the organization decide to target the Blue Birthday sapphire. Snake waits for Kaitou Kid on a roof and confronts the thief who he believes to be Toichi Kuroba. Snake reveals himself to be the one who killed Toichi Kuroba eight years before the events of Magic Kaito, making the death look like a stage accident. | ||
| − | + | Snake shoots Kid and takes possession of what he thinks is the Blue Birthday, but Kid survived thanks to putting the real Blue Birthday gem in his breast pocket. Snake goes to an old-fashioned mansion on the edge of the city, where a mysterious balding man with a mustache praises Snake's work, saying "This jewel could be the one ''he'' is searching for." The man then went on to explain what the Pandora Gem is: a jewel hidden within a larger jewel that can be identified because it glows red under the moonlight and will, at the time of a comet, "cry tears of immortality". Kid reveals himself to the two men, and vows to find Pandora before they do and "smash it to bits."<ref>{{cite book|last=Aoyama|first=Gosho|title=Magic Kaito|volume=3|publisher=Shogakukan|chapter=Chapter 6|language=Japanese}} ("Blue Birthday")</ref> | |
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| − | Snake shoots Kid and takes possession of what he thinks is the Blue Birthday, but Kid survived thanks to putting the real Blue Birthday gem in his breast pocket. | ||
==== Green Dream ==== | ==== Green Dream ==== | ||
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==== The Crystal Mother ==== | ==== The Crystal Mother ==== | ||
{{Main|Conan, Kid, and the Crystal Mother}} | {{Main|Conan, Kid, and the Crystal Mother}} | ||
| + | {{Main|The Tearful Crystal Mother}} | ||
==== Red Tear ==== | ==== Red Tear ==== | ||
| − | Kaitou Kid continues to look for the Pandora gem, this time pursuing the blue ruby known as the "Red Tear, | + | {{Main|The Secret of the Red Tear}} |
| + | Kaitou Kid continues to look for the Pandora gem, this time pursuing the blue ruby known as the "Red Tear", owned by a family of British magicians known as the Hoppers. Kaito suspects that Snake believes the gem has a good chance of being the Pandora Gem. However, since Kaito's father Toichi was trained by James Hopper, paternal grandfather of the current magician Jody Hopper, Kaito knew that the gem was actually a sort of photo album which, when illuminated, projected images of the Hopper family onto the walls. | ||
When Snake arrived to steal the Red Tear, he had one of his men dress as the Kaitou Kid while he himself went backstage and non-fatally shot many in the magician troupe in an attempt to get Jody to turn the gem over to him. He was about to shoot Jody but Kaito saved her life, then led Snake on a chase which ended in the latter falling out a window. Snake landed safely on an adjacent roof and presumably fled. | When Snake arrived to steal the Red Tear, he had one of his men dress as the Kaitou Kid while he himself went backstage and non-fatally shot many in the magician troupe in an attempt to get Jody to turn the gem over to him. He was about to shoot Jody but Kaito saved her life, then led Snake on a chase which ended in the latter falling out a window. Snake landed safely on an adjacent roof and presumably fled. | ||
| − | ==Relation to the Black Organization from Detective Conan== | + | == Relation to the Black Organization from Detective Conan == |
| − | + | For a long time, it was unknown if the Magic Kaito's unnamed organization and Detective Conan's [[Black Organization]] are the same organization, partners, or entirely unrelated to one another. Theories for or against their connection have been presented by fans. | |
| − | + | This question was finally settled when Gosho Aoyama was asked at the 2016 Singapore Writer's Festival, whether the two were the same, to which Gosho answered, that the Black Organization and the Magic Kaito Organization are not the same and completely different organizations<ref>[http://conan-4869.net/post-29331/3 http://conan-4869.net/post-29331/3] <br> | |
| − | + | Q31: 私は怪盗キッドのファンです。もっと怪盗キッドを出して欲しい。コナンに出てくる黒の組織と、マジック快斗に出てくる組織は同じですか？<br> | |
| − | + | A: 違います。まったく違う組織。<br> | |
| − | + | '''Q:''' I'm a fan of Kaitou Kid. Please let him appear more. Are the Black Organization in Conan and the Organization in Magic Kaito the same? <br> | |
| + | '''A:''' They aren't the same. They are completely different organizations.<br></ref>. | ||
| − | ===Arguments against=== | + | === Arguments for === |
| − | *The member of the | + | * They are both mysterious well structured organizations that use codenames, making their assassinations seem like accidents and leaving no evidence. |
| − | *The Magic Kaito Organization uses much less subtle methods than the Black Organization. Snake confronts his targets openly while making no effort to hide face or eliminate those who saw him afterwards. He does not bother to silence his gun either. | + | * Their bosses are referred to as "that person" (Ano kata). |
| − | *In the anime, the members of the Magic Kaito Organization are not shown to wear black outfits, as the Black Organization tends to do. | + | * They both are potentially interested in obtaining immortality. The Magic Kaito Organization is looking for Pandora for the purposes of immortality. One of the most common theories is that Black Organization is working on [[APTX 4869]] in order to achieve immortality. |
| + | * Snake could be short for [[Wikipedia: Snake wine|snake wine]]. The anime-only character Rose may be a reference to [[Wikipedia: Rose wine|rose wine]], and the other anime-only character Spider was drinking some sort of alcohol from a bottle called 'spider'. | ||
| + | * Toichi Kuroba taught [[Sharon Vineyard]] the finer art of disguise. | ||
| + | * Snake also bears some resemblance to the deceased Black Organization agent [[Tequila]]. | ||
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| + | === Arguments against === | ||
| + | * Their codename schemes are different. The member of the Magic Kaito organization that claimed responsibility for killing Toichi eight years ago is referred to as "[[Snake]]"<ref>{{cite book|last=Aoyama|first=Gosho|title=Magic Kaito|volume=3|publisher=Shogakukan|date=1994-10-15|isbn=4-09-122093-5|chapter=Blue Birthday|language=Japanese|location=Tokyo|page=140}}</ref>, a nickname that doesn't fit in with the codenames of the Black Organization, suggesting they are two separate groups. The codename could be made to fit if Snake refers to snake wine, but because Kaitou Kid's origins have yet to be reexplained within the Detective Conan story, this is only speculation. Additionally a new member introduced in the anime by the name of Spider once again doesn't fit with the Black Organization's alcohol codenames. | ||
| + | * The Magic Kaito Organization uses much less subtle methods than the Black Organization. Snake confronts his targets openly while making no effort to hide face or eliminate those who saw him afterwards. He does not bother to silence his gun either. | ||
| + | * In the anime, the members of the Magic Kaito Organization are not shown to wear black outfits, as the Black Organization tends to do. | ||
| + | * The Magic Kaito Organization is looking for a magical gem called Pandora. The magical nature of Magic Kaito and its organization's search does not mesh with the non-magical setting of Detective Conan. Also it is absolutely never shown nor hinted that the Black Organization is hunting for some sort of jewelry. | ||
== Manga to anime differences == | == Manga to anime differences == | ||
| + | * Rose and Spider don't exist in the manga. | ||
| − | == | + | == See also == |
| + | * [[Pandora Gem]] | ||
| − | == | + | == References == |
| − | + | <references/> | |
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| + | {{Magic Kaito Organization}} | ||
{{Magic Kaito}} | {{Magic Kaito}} | ||
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Latest revision as of 20:49, 23 June 2023
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| Profile | |
| Japanese name: | No official name |
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| English name: | No official name |
| Boss: | Boss |
| Active Members: | Snake Sub-boss (second-in-command) Spider (TV specials only) Rose (OVA 4 only) |
| Deceased Members: | |
| Former Members: | |
| Undercover Agents: | |
| Extended Canon Agents: | |
| Statistics | |
| First appearance: | Manga: MK Chapter 18 Anime: Episode 5 |
| Appearances: | Magic Kaito: 4 Specials: 6 OVAs: 1 |
| "Magic Kaito Organization" is a fan created nickname used to distinguish this organization from the Black Organization that appears in Detective Conan. | |
This unnamed criminal organization is the primary antagonist in Magic Kaito. The organization's goal is to acquire the Pandora Gem that grants immortality when a certain comet passes overhead. They are the true deadly enemies of Kaitou Kid.
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Members
- Snake is the primary antagonist of the series, a codenamed member who killed Toichi Kuroba and is currently searching for Pandora Gem.
- The boss is highest ranking member so far. He was mentioned to exist in the manga[1], and has appeared in shadow in the anime.
- The unnamed sub-boss is the second-in-command and reports directly to the boss. He was initially outmatched by Kaitou Kid after inadvertently revealing the goal of the organization within earshot.
- Spider is a non-canon stage magician operating under the name of Gunter Von Goldberg II, he is considered "The Best Illusionist in the World". The boss ordered his/her deputy to contact him after Kaitou Kid ruined the Blue Birthday heist.
- Rose is a non-canon woman who worked with Snake to steal the crystal mother. She aspires to become known as the number one sniper.
Structure and rank
The organization has been shown to have at least four distinct ranks. The highest is the unmentioned boss, referred to with deference by lower level members as "that person". A second-in-command who reports directly to "that person" is next down in seniority and can order around code-named agents. Codenamed agents like Snake report directly to their second-in-command and so far are only told partial information about the goal of the organization. Codenamed agents in turn manage a small squad of low level agents who wear near identical beige trenchcoats and matching fedoras.
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Goal
So far the the only known goal of the organization is to find Pandora, the gem which grants eternal life to the one who drinks its tears when Volley comet passes over. It is unknown what the organization intends to do with Pandora, or whether finding Pandora is their only goal rather than one facet of a larger plan.
Modus operandi
The organization steals "big jewels" they think might be Pandora and return them to their second-in-command to be checked against the light of the moon. For some missions, the group acts in large numbers with a codenamed agent like Snake leading a group of many minor operatives. Other times codenamed agents work together without backup, as Snake and Rose were shown to do. Except for their second-in-command, all codenamed agents and their lackeys are shown to be armed at all times. So far, they do not seem to be concerned with silencers.
The organization is clearly very rich, shown by them using an expansive traditional Japanese home with escape tunnel as a hideout.
Target jewels
So far the organization has only targeted jewels of superlative size, typically the most massive in a particular category. Presumably they figure that the gem must be exceptionally large in order to hide the doublet Pandora within it.
| Image | Item name | Short description | Episode/Chapter | Details |
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Toichi's gem | ??? | In the anime, Toichi Kuroba as Kaitou Kid and the organization both aimed to steal the same gem. The organization decided to eliminate Toichi in a deliberate stage accident because he was getting in their way. | |
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Blue Birthday | India's largest sapphire | Blue Birthday was targeted while it was on tour at the Indian Treasure Exhibit. As the organization anticipated, Kaitou Kid stole the jewel first. Snake, leading a team of underlings, confronted Kid and grabbed his replica of Blue Birthday by mistake. Kaitou Kid revealed the jewel was not Pandora by holding it to the moonlight. | |
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Green Dream | World's largest emerald | The organization looked into taking Green Dream, but decided it wasn't what they were looking for after Kaitou Kid held it up to the moonlight while on stage. At the time Snake was watching the Kaitou Kid's stage performance while hiding behind the stage curtains. | |
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Crystal Mother | Europe's largest topaz | Owned by the queen of the Principality of Ingram (in Europe), Snake and Rose targeted this gem on the Royal Express to Osaka. Snake let Kaitou Kid steal it first, and then ascended to the train roof where he knew Kid would hide. Snake threatened the child prince of Ingram in order to get Kid to relinquish the gem, but was knocked off the train when he collided with the top of a tunnel. | |
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Red Tear | World's greatest ruby | A prior target of Toichi's, the Red Tear is really colored blue, but its forgotten secret is that turns red and shows pictures of the Hopper family when exposed to flame. Its prior owners, Jody Hopper's parents, died in a fire which the jewel survived. Snake and some of his men tailed its current owner, Jody Hopper, and then posed as customers at dinner show performance of the Hopper Magician troupe at the Minato Hotel. The organization's theft method was to have one member pose as Kaitou Kid, complete with functional hang glider, to draw away stationed police while Snake took the jewel at gunpoint backstage. Snake opened fire when the real Kaitou Kid interfered with the robbery. |
Plot timeline
History
Eight years before the current timeline, famous magician Toichi Kuroba, who was Kaitou Kid at the time, was murdered by Snake at the orders of the organization in a fake magic accident. Toichi was killed because he targeted the same gem as the organization.[2]
Current events
The Fated Blue Birthday
Both Kaito Kuroba and the organization decide to target the Blue Birthday sapphire. Snake waits for Kaitou Kid on a roof and confronts the thief who he believes to be Toichi Kuroba. Snake reveals himself to be the one who killed Toichi Kuroba eight years before the events of Magic Kaito, making the death look like a stage accident.
Snake shoots Kid and takes possession of what he thinks is the Blue Birthday, but Kid survived thanks to putting the real Blue Birthday gem in his breast pocket. Snake goes to an old-fashioned mansion on the edge of the city, where a mysterious balding man with a mustache praises Snake's work, saying "This jewel could be the one he is searching for." The man then went on to explain what the Pandora Gem is: a jewel hidden within a larger jewel that can be identified because it glows red under the moonlight and will, at the time of a comet, "cry tears of immortality". Kid reveals himself to the two men, and vows to find Pandora before they do and "smash it to bits."[3]
Green Dream
Kid notes that suspicious men in gray coats are now present at all Kaitou Kid heists.
The Crystal Mother
Red Tear
Kaitou Kid continues to look for the Pandora gem, this time pursuing the blue ruby known as the "Red Tear", owned by a family of British magicians known as the Hoppers. Kaito suspects that Snake believes the gem has a good chance of being the Pandora Gem. However, since Kaito's father Toichi was trained by James Hopper, paternal grandfather of the current magician Jody Hopper, Kaito knew that the gem was actually a sort of photo album which, when illuminated, projected images of the Hopper family onto the walls.
When Snake arrived to steal the Red Tear, he had one of his men dress as the Kaitou Kid while he himself went backstage and non-fatally shot many in the magician troupe in an attempt to get Jody to turn the gem over to him. He was about to shoot Jody but Kaito saved her life, then led Snake on a chase which ended in the latter falling out a window. Snake landed safely on an adjacent roof and presumably fled.
Relation to the Black Organization from Detective Conan
For a long time, it was unknown if the Magic Kaito's unnamed organization and Detective Conan's Black Organization are the same organization, partners, or entirely unrelated to one another. Theories for or against their connection have been presented by fans.
This question was finally settled when Gosho Aoyama was asked at the 2016 Singapore Writer's Festival, whether the two were the same, to which Gosho answered, that the Black Organization and the Magic Kaito Organization are not the same and completely different organizations[4].
Arguments for
- They are both mysterious well structured organizations that use codenames, making their assassinations seem like accidents and leaving no evidence.
- Their bosses are referred to as "that person" (Ano kata).
- They both are potentially interested in obtaining immortality. The Magic Kaito Organization is looking for Pandora for the purposes of immortality. One of the most common theories is that Black Organization is working on APTX 4869 in order to achieve immortality.
- Snake could be short for snake wine. The anime-only character Rose may be a reference to rose wine, and the other anime-only character Spider was drinking some sort of alcohol from a bottle called 'spider'.
- Toichi Kuroba taught Sharon Vineyard the finer art of disguise.
- Snake also bears some resemblance to the deceased Black Organization agent Tequila.
Arguments against
- Their codename schemes are different. The member of the Magic Kaito organization that claimed responsibility for killing Toichi eight years ago is referred to as "Snake"[5], a nickname that doesn't fit in with the codenames of the Black Organization, suggesting they are two separate groups. The codename could be made to fit if Snake refers to snake wine, but because Kaitou Kid's origins have yet to be reexplained within the Detective Conan story, this is only speculation. Additionally a new member introduced in the anime by the name of Spider once again doesn't fit with the Black Organization's alcohol codenames.
- The Magic Kaito Organization uses much less subtle methods than the Black Organization. Snake confronts his targets openly while making no effort to hide face or eliminate those who saw him afterwards. He does not bother to silence his gun either.
- In the anime, the members of the Magic Kaito Organization are not shown to wear black outfits, as the Black Organization tends to do.
- The Magic Kaito Organization is looking for a magical gem called Pandora. The magical nature of Magic Kaito and its organization's search does not mesh with the non-magical setting of Detective Conan. Also it is absolutely never shown nor hinted that the Black Organization is hunting for some sort of jewelry.
Manga to anime differences
- Rose and Spider don't exist in the manga.
See also
References
- ^ Magic Kaito Volume 3: Blue Birthday, pg 19
- ^ Magic Kaito episode 5
- ^ Aoyama, Gosho. "Chapter 6" (in Japanese). Magic Kaito. 3. Shogakukan. ("Blue Birthday")
- ^ http://conan-4869.net/post-29331/3
Q31: 私は怪盗キッドのファンです。もっと怪盗キッドを出して欲しい。コナンに出てくる黒の組織と、マジック快斗に出てくる組織は同じですか？
A: 違います。まったく違う組織。
Q: I'm a fan of Kaitou Kid. Please let him appear more. Are the Black Organization in Conan and the Organization in Magic Kaito the same?
A: They aren't the same. They are completely different organizations.
- ^ Aoyama, Gosho (1994-10-15). "Blue Birthday" (in Japanese). Magic Kaito. 3. Tokyo: Shogakukan. p. 140. ISBN 4-09-122093-5.
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