User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin
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Contents
- 1 Masumi Sera's connection to Shuichi Akai speculation
- 2 If Bourbon is revealed
- 3 Didn't know
- 4 Sherry's soliloquy
- 5 Ask
- 6 Question
- 7 FYI
- 8 As you wish
- 9 Understand
- 10 Heist pictures
- 11 Sorry
- 12 Ask
- 13 Question
- 14 Edit conflict
- 15 Spider
- 16 Upload picture
- 17 Nothing
- 18 Question
- 19 No no no
- 20 ???
- 21 Misunderstood
- 22 Can't find messenger on DCW forum
- 23 Don't you remember
- 24 Wrong person
- 25 Confession and a deal
- 26 By accident for forgetting
- 27 Corrections
- 28 Re: Ran saves Ai image
- 29 Speaking of the Anokata article...
- 30 Re: S261157
- 31 S261157 speaking
- 32 Re: Stolen information
- 33 sorry
- 34 Can you delete this page?
- 35 Re: appreciation
- 36 Re:Speaking of guys who use their personal pages for unrelated stuff...
- 37 Regarding: picture "Sonoko_is_scary"
- 38 Friendly note about minor edits
- 39 Cleanup
- 40 Kaito's age
- 41 Bug with Appearances template
- 42 Hey
- 43 Suggestion
- 44 Manga date
- 45 Question
- 46 Tomoaki Araide
Masumi Sera's connection to Shuichi Akai speculation
Out of curiosity, now that the connection is confirmed, what would you like to do with that section of the speculation on Masumi Sera and Shuichi Akai's pages? You wrote the speculation, if I'm not mistaken, and I didn't want to remove your research without bringing the matter to you first. :) --Skyechan 23:59, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
If Bourbon is revealed
If Bourbon is revealed, do we really have to change the person's name into Bourbon? I think it would be better to make a Bourbon link redirect to someone. You know I was thinking like this, if Subaru Okiya is Bourbon, then we don't have to change the name of Subaru Okiya into display of Bourbon in all episode articles because the new readers might look at episode articles in chronological order. If the reader looks at Conan vs Double Code Mystery when Subaru Okiya is Bourbon label it, that would spoil the whole thing. Here's a good idea: in the previous episode articles before Bourbon's revealed, let's leave as regular names. After Bourbon's revealed, we will keep making as Bourbon display in the cast section in the future episode articles. So what do you say? Do you kind of get it about my idea? --S261157 03:06, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
- I guess that will be that. I'm sure this idea is great that we are not going to make a display of "Bourbon" in the previous articles of the cast section. And of course my favorite character is Sango Yokomizo. Because he's very nice policeman and I love how he interrogates people by getting close to people's face. You know I thought your favorite character is Subaru Okiya (because of your display account on DCTP). --S261157 04:39, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Didn't know
Sorry about that. Well I just check the IP that's located in Thailand several times, that is why I thought it could be the same user. But I guess there's a lot of users in Thailand of different locations. Alrighty, I won't do that again. --S261157 05:39, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
- Okay I understand, but really, I can't remember. I'll try to be more careful next time.
- This is the first time demanding the IP for just one edit contribution. I'm sure of it. Again, I'll repeat again: I'll try to be more careful and think right.
Sherry's soliloquy
Hello,
I don't really know if I understood this thing's concept, but if you need to see old (and now unavailable) parts of a website, perhaps the Internet Archive Wayback Machine can help you ? (Sorry for my very bad English, and sorry if it wasn't what you needed) --Maxdefolsch 16:17, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- I feel sort of stupid for not thinking of that... :( Well, I got all the pictures, but I will certainly try an archive in the future. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 18:03, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Ask
May I revert the picture of Minae with the cap on I uploaded, please? For permission? --S261157 01:48, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- I revert it now, because I like the picture of Minae wearing a baseball cap better.
Question
If Subaru Okiya is revealed to be Shuichi Akai, can we leave the article of Subaru Okiya? --S261157 17:46, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
- That is the plan as far as I know. Basically we have an article for his disguise because a lot of stuff happened. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 20:57, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
- Okay good. Thank you. --S261157 21:05, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
FYI
I love what I'm seeing on the handedness complaint. I told you before, I was an IP that previously clashed with you. I don't have that proxy any longer, but you can look me up: 113.192.1.99. I also love how you ran away from a challenge. But without a doubt, my favorite is the fact that you're randomly accusing people of being me sock puppetting and being guilty of a serious offense that makes them not worth your time any further, when you yourself were sock puppeting on Mangafox. By the way, if you still can't decipher my code: start with a Caesar Square. I'm reverting the edit since it's wrong, neither my various proxies nor my natural IP match out to 71.126.239.180 (and just to help you out, my natural IP is 66.87.125.212). If you want to track me down, try actually working at it instead of assuming anyone who questions you must be me.94.229.86.105 22:05, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
As you wish
I'll work on it. --S261157 18:36, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Understand
I understand. I'll watch over it. --S261157 19:58, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Heist pictures
You agreed right?! Yes I don't want the pictures to be stretched out funny.
I don't understand though; the screencaps are taken from my DVDs. They're not stretched. This is what the image looks like before I shrunk the width to 640px. http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg555/skyedream75/vlcsnap-2012-07-14-16h25m46s9.png 720x480. And as I said, this is from the actual DVD footage. I don't see how shrinking the image to 640x427 (using the constrain proportions setting on Photoshop) destroys the ratio. It keeps it and then maintains the width set by other images. --Skyechan 20:29, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry couldn't help it. I was a little angry.
Sorry
Alright. I'm really sorry. Please don't ban me. --S261157 14:28, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Ask
Umm can I change the detail of Someda Kamiyo of "Was with Genta when he saw the thief" into "Witness"? Umm please? Of course he says he didn't see the thief which is actually he is the thief. He could still be called witness if he did see anything or not and of course the fact can still be said that he is with Genta when he saw the thief in the plot story. So is that okay? I'm more satisfied as that. And that's why I want to ask you for permission. --S261157 21:23, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
- You don't have to ask me for permission to edit the people section because I edited it. Just make the change, and if I don't like it, we'll civilly discuss it until we reach a mutually agreeable solution -- which is how it is supposed to work. I don't mind "witness". Chekhov MacGuffin talk 21:55, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you.
Question
What are you going to edit about Kaitou Kid? Curious though.
- Since August is going to be mostly Kaitou Kid related anime episodes, I have set up a topic on the forum to pick a Kaitou Kid themed article for featured article, and I am going to change the featured song (I randomly picked one from movie three), and the "did you know" section to Magic Kaito trivia. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 22:01, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
- Oh okay.
Edit conflict
I'm so sorry, just had to add u at the end of "Kaito" Kid.
Spider
WHAT?!!!! That's Spider?!!! I thought it was Kazumi Sanada in shady figure of the magazine! Cannot believe it!
- I saw his image in an earlier episode preview, and thought he was a lady, so I didn't post the image because I wasn't sure if it was someone else, or the animators decided to make Jody Hopper from the Red Tear look really ugly. :X Chekhov MacGuffin talk 17:16, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
- Heck NO WAY! That ain't Jody Hopper! :X Jody Hopper is supposed to be cute girl.
Upload picture
Can you go to The Secret of the Red Tear and upload the picture of Spider in Characters introduced section?
Nothing
Sorry it's nothing. Sorry.
- Yeah yeah. I'm cool, I'm cool. No worries.
Question
Is haunted house a crime or type of incident? No, right? --S261157 21:37, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
No no no
No no no no PLEASE!!!! Stope please I beg you! I understand! But please, this is what I want. TT_TT Okay I'm sorry! Please give me a chance! I promise! I'll stop! Please!
- No. Go cool your head for a week and take a break. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 21:50, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
- No please, I don't want be blocked for a week. I swear to you! I'll stop. I want to work on wiki everyday.
- No. You need to stop and think about your behavior here. If you were in my position and trying to do the right thing, how would you feel about someone who when asked to explain told you he had no good reasons for doing it his way other than he thinks it is good, then ignored you, deleted your messages, and went about undoing your changes. Also this person has done this to you several times before? You'd be frustrated and want to stop him, right? Also I'd like to point out if you attempt to evade the block using IP addresses I will ban those and your main account for longer. Just take a break, find another wiki to play with for a week, or something like that. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 22:05, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
- No please, I don't want be blocked for a week. I swear to you! I'll stop. I want to work on wiki everyday.
???
Huh?
- I'm just putting categories down vertically. What are you talking about?
- Well maybe it's just a coincidence. There's nothing wrong about it.
- So you think I'm S261157? Just because of that Sogeking user?
- Well maybe it's just a coincidence. There's nothing wrong about it.
Misunderstood
Excuse me, I'm Neutron4869 and I believe you are making a mistake. I don't quite understand of what's going on about this S261157 person who removes the description of the people section. I removed it because I thought it was fine when I read the manga that only says the name and the age few weeks ago. But since you undo it, then okay. My mistake. This is my request: Can you unblock my Neutron4869 account? I'm telling you this that you are accusing the wrong person. --Neutron 9:19, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I am not keen on unblocking it right now because I still think you are S261157. I alerted the other mods to your account from the first edit you made. When I originally blocked S261157, I made a profile of his behavior, the types of edits he likes to make, when and where he likes to make them, and when various events occurred -- because I expected S261157 to sockpuppet and I needed a reference to compare user behavior to. You matched up suspicious with regards to all of them and the removal of the suspect information was the tipping point. Your account is not blocked on the main forum, so if you could private message there, I will give some more details which you can dispute if you like. I don't want to block uninvolved people by mistake of course. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 15:58, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps you're being too suspicious right now. I know it's hard to believe it, but it's not what you think. I would really appreciate if you unblock my old account. Just because someone removes the description of the people section doesn't always mean it's this S261157 person. I'm being honest to you right now. I'm not him. This is very unfortunate for me since this S261157 made these sneaky things and the new users gets blocked just because of the similar edits. Also, I made a little mistake. So, can you please unblock my old account? --Neutron 16:37, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, as I said before I still think you are S261157. You have the option of discussing it with me by private message because this is a sensitive issue. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 16:46, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps you're being too suspicious right now. I know it's hard to believe it, but it's not what you think. I would really appreciate if you unblock my old account. Just because someone removes the description of the people section doesn't always mean it's this S261157 person. I'm being honest to you right now. I'm not him. This is very unfortunate for me since this S261157 made these sneaky things and the new users gets blocked just because of the similar edits. Also, I made a little mistake. So, can you please unblock my old account? --Neutron 16:37, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Can't find messenger on DCW forum
Chekhov, I can't find the messenger on the forum to talk to you in private. How do I find messenger to talk you in private? --Neutron 23:59, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- In the upper right by your picture, if you click your name it will list the messenger. Alternately, you click the profile of the person you want to message and it will list "send me a message" on the left. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 00:17, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
Don't you remember
Don't you remember my name? Yong? It's me.
Wrong person
I was surprised that this S261167 person shares the same location, but it's true. I live in the same location. You have block the wrong person and I must finish my gallery.
Confession and a deal
Okay fine, you got me, I am S261157 and listen. Please listen to me. Okay listen up, here's a deal. I wanted all things to start over. Of course I screwed up and argue stuff, making conflicts. Listen, if you can just change the block settings into one week for me not to edit the wiki, I will not evade the block. If I did evade the block, you can change the block settings into one year. I worked really hard on the wiki for two whole years and this isn't how I should get. I regret all my lies and sneaky things and all my actions. But you have to trust me on this one. Change the block settings into one week and I will not edit the wiki for a week by evading the block. If I did evade, you can change the block settings. I just want to get my chance back to edit the wiki. And look don't worry, I changed myself and I won't edit war ever again with you. I just didn't know how things were find out and I learned my lesson. You're the moderator and I underestimate you. So do we have a deal? I want to earn the trust back. I regret all my actions for evading the block.
- I am sorry about all those things. But please. Just test me, I want my block settings to a week. I just want one more chance. I suggest for you to test me if I'm not evading or not for a week. When you change the block settings to week of S261157, block the Holmes51 account infinite. Just test me.
- You have to trust me, please. I won't screw up again. One year is impossible for me! I love editing this wiki. If someone learned a lesson, you have to give them one more chance. Look, I know I am so ashame to myself. Just give me one week of ban. Please!
- Okay, how about one month. That's my final offer. Look I was wrong and I won't do it again. Honest.
- Whoa whoa whoa hold on, six months!? I said week of banning
- Oh oh ok ok ok, alright I got it. If the other mods agree, then you set to one week on banning. Alright I got ya.
- Whoa whoa whoa hold on, six months!? I said week of banning
- Okay, how about one month. That's my final offer. Look I was wrong and I won't do it again. Honest.
- You have to trust me, please. I won't screw up again. One year is impossible for me! I love editing this wiki. If someone learned a lesson, you have to give them one more chance. Look, I know I am so ashame to myself. Just give me one week of ban. Please!
By accident for forgetting
Chekhov, please forgive me! I edit the magic kaito special 9 by forgetting the topic ban! Please, then can you ban me for a week then if that's my punishment? Not six months?! I didn't mean to break your rule, and I'm so sorry! It was an accident really! Honest! I totally forgot! --S261157
- Wait you said no editing special episodes but everything else where there aren't people boxes is ok. That's what you said right? Magic Kaito special 9 has no people boxes. So is it still breaking the rules?
Corrections
In Shinichi Kudo's Childhood Adventure, Can you switch Kisaki Eri into Eri Kisaki and add "u" at the end of Kaito in Toichi Kuroba as Kaito Kid? --S261157
Re: Ran saves Ai image
Hm... Actually I think that one has accurate scale, since it is a full screenshot of the scene. And full screenshots tend to have that kind of scale (even though it doesn't look very nice to the eyes). For example, if you compare it to the images with Shinichi and Ran on the same page and some other full screenshots, you'll see that the scales are approximately the same after re-sizing to the same pixel but still keep the ratio (even when the original sizes are different):
I think the reason why other images look more "balanced" is either because they're not a full screenshot (e.g. cropped) or because they were sketched in size without maintaining the original ratio. - Black Demon
- I'll upload the new one into a right aspect ratio picture. Leave it to me. --S261157
- But it is in right aspect ratio - Black Demon
- OK, then I'll leave it to S261157 to upload the new version - Black Demon
- Thanks for the tip ^^ Black Demon
- OK, then I'll leave it to S261157 to upload the new version - Black Demon
Speaking of the Anokata article...
Some months ago there was an interview of Gosho that mentioned some facts about the Boss' identity, not sure if you have read it yet (I posted that somewhere in the forum).
Gosho said that The Boss is "a person who has appeared with his/her full name" (translated by Mina from DCTP if I'm not mistaken, it was posted at the DCTP Spoiler Cbox (the one used for translations) during the Mystery Train Case, you can read it there in an archive). However, I can't read much of Japanese so I'm not sure how to understand the phrase "has appeared" here. Is it safe to say that The Boss has been featured in person ?
This is the orginal Japanese Q&A:
--コナンに登場する犯罪組織の黒幕は、男ですか、女ですか
「それは言えない。でも、今までにフルネームで登場している人です」
The page itself: http://sankei.jp.msn.com/life/news/120630/bdy12063007000000-n1.htm (That part's in page 4)
But the only problem here is that no one is sure whether this interview is real or not, which is the reason why I never included it here. So what do you think, should we add it or not ?
Re: S261157
No problem; I've sporadically kept up with the wiki and relevant history, even though I haven't had time to edit much until recently. I hope the damage control is successful, as I noticed a lot of user-talk-page discussions in Recent Changes over the past few days. I'll stick to my comfy little section in the manga summaries, where no one else seems to tread anyway. ^^;; Ocianne (talk) 23:35, 16 February 2013 (PST)
S261157 speaking
Okay I admit it! I was a fool and a stupid guy who is so hopeless and I'm a big idiot!!!!!! I want to change and I'm heartbroken right now! I'm so ashamed of myself who has unhealthy problems. You were right all along. People section doesn't have to be what it says in the blue box. I want to have privilege back and edit the wiki in a happy way by letting the people edit the people section whatever they want. I caused so much troubleness but please give me the topic ban rules again, and I want to make things right! Being banned is the worstest thing ever in my entire life and I gives me sickness (really I am). I want to edit the wiki in and let anyone edit the wiki in peace. Wiki is supposed to be a website that anyone can edit. And it's not mine, it belongs to Maurice, the administrator. I should always follow his rule and follow the manual of style. I was wrong and your right. Your smart and I'm dumb. I was wrong as always. I really want to make things right. Please, I don't want to be banned for six months. I never expect this would have ever happened. You must understand my feelings. I'm in great pain and please I know your extremely disappointed. I want to edit this wiki and it's my greatest life. Serioulsy, I cross my heart. No more tricks, no more lying, and no more telling the users in a wrong way. Always edit the wiki in peace. --UserS261157
Re: Stolen information
I know where you come from and I know how the licensings working, but, don't it frustrates you that the source that you've founded and added it by writing the text at your own and then some other website related to the mediawiki style then steels all of your hard work, that is not as simple as it seems by taking away content from another website. Each website should be original and by copying the source from another wiki is extremely unoriginal. Thanks for understanding this painful situation though, but it frustrates me that literally the text that I've written were I had to find tons of informations from different kind of websites evenly from Japanese websites to create something special of my own. Hope you understand how I felt about it, evenly your wikia is under GNU Free Documentation License by taking free contents from different websites it is still not right by taking the content without referencing the source were you've taken. Maybe you also dislikes it when I am going to take content from this wiki and placed it to my wiki right? Hopefully we can know clear thing because I've found out that the one who took the content is the one you've banned. Hope out websites can get along with each other what do you think? I've evenly created a special rule at my wiki which contains to prevent taking content from your wiki and adding to the mine. I want to be a wiki were the source can be trustworthy and original. Anyway good luck with your wiki. Sorry for my behavior, I was just furious that exact the same content has been made here as well. KidProdigy (talk) 12:04, 17 February 2013 (PST)
- I am extremely happy that you've understand the situation. Thanks. KidProdigy (talk) 13:10, 17 February 2013 (PST)
sorry
Hi, I'm really sorry for posting messages and yahoo on episode pages. Please accept my apologies and I won't ever do it again. I'll try testing on the Sandbox next time. I was just trying to find my friend to talk to.
Can you delete this page?
Detective Conan: Strategy Above the Depths
It's apparently a testing edit of a new member who doesn't know about the Sandbox. The contents are copied from his account-activating email. BLACK DEMON | Reply
Re: appreciation
Thanks! It's mostly for my own peace of mind, but it really helps to know other people appreciate it as well. I wish I could do more, but I don't trust myself to fact-check anime-specific details right and it's hard to find what else needs it beyond what's been tagged for cleanup. Ocianne (talk) 20:49, 22 February 2013 (PST)
Bring up the matter to Maurice. I wasn't sure about that either. Technically it's just on the userpage and doesn't use up a lot of resources, but on the same token it has absolutely nothing to do with DC at all. :/ --Skyechan (talk) 20:11, 23 March 2013 (PDT)
Regarding: picture "Sonoko_is_scary"
I just wanted to ask which episode this particular scene is from. I haven't watched it yet and would like to learn what triggered this reaction. Daniel46 (talk) 05:29, 29 March 2013 (PDT)
Friendly note about minor edits
I'm really sorry about that, the thing is I actually know they exist. I'll bear that in mind for next time. Thanks --conanshinichi 13:57, 3 April 2013 (PDT)
Cleanup
Hi,
I started to do a lot of cleanup yesterday, mainly with the redirect pages, and I came across some pretty useless pages (which aren't linked from any other page), which I think should be deleted :
Pages | Reason |
---|---|
A Mysterious Sniper Murder Case (Part 1) A Mysterious Sniper Murder Case (Part 2) The Traveling Drama Troupe Murder Case (Part 1) The Traveling Drama Troupe Murder Case (Part 2) |
We don't create redirections for each part of an episode |
Detectiv Conan timeline Detéctive Conan Eiichi Yamagishi (charatcer) Héiji Matsomoto family Wataru Takagi Appearance |
Based on very specific typos |
Unknown Mikami Sera |
When the name wasn't known, I suppose |
Decisive Battle At Skyscraper! | Doesn't lead anywhere, I don't know where it should (the first movie ?) |
Mann (Fall 197) | Leads to Scar Akai, don't know why |
Other People | Leads to the main page talk, don't really know why either, and as I said it's not linked from any other page |
Roller Coaster Murder Case/Images | Leads to the gallery, useless |
Volume 61-Current Volume 71-Current |
Outdated |
Xinichi | I checked on the Shinichi page, it's not even a foreign dub name |
Midori Kuroba | Not sure about that one, she's supposed to be called Chikage but I don't know if the anime messed up or something |
There's also a bunch of file redirections but I'll not touch them for the time being.
Oh, and there are three "real" pages that (in my opinion) should be deleted as well :
Apollo Glass Appearances : As far as I know, we don't do the Appearances page for one-time characters.
Diana Kingstone : The page is empty and it's a one-time character too. At best, maybe should we put her in the notable case characters list.
Family & Friends : Almost empty, useless, not linked from anywhere.
So, what do you think ? Is it possible to delete these pages ?
Thank you,
Maxdefolsch (talk) 06:13, 6 April 2013 (PDT)
Kaito's age
Not a good canon source, but his age is specified as 17 in the Clock Tower heist segment of episode 219. (Just before the flashback to the heist when Kaito is getting ready to go to the Suzuki museum to steal the Black Star.) I would have to search through Magic Kaito itself to see if his age is specified within, but I do know that the manga version of the Clock Tower heist doesn't mention it since the characters don't have the introduction boxes. --Skyechan (talk) 16:24, 7 April 2013 (PDT)
Bug with Appearances template
Hi,
I just created "The Criminal" Appearances (by the way, I hope it won't be considered useless ...) and there seems to be a problem with the Appearances template. As you can see, instead of listing all the appearances, it only outputs the number of appearances like it does in the Appearances section of "The Criminal". I suppose this is caused by the quotation marks in "The Criminal". Is there anything I can do about it ?
Thanks,
Maxdefolsch (talk) 15:45, 23 April 2013 (PDT)
Hey
I gave you a message a long time ago but you didn't respond, also I didn't evenly came with the idea to give you my thanks here. It is pretty original the Gosho Aoyama page. Most of the information that you've found seemed for me missed because I couldn't find some of those. I again thankful for taking responsibility to revamping the page. Thanks again. KidProdigy (talk) 09:21, 5 May 2013 (PDT)
Suggestion
Can you make a Remastered version page of what is it and what episodes are Remastered please.
Manga date
Date you asked me to look into is correct according to Shogakukan's website. :) --Skyechan (talk) 07:13, 25 May 2013 (PDT)
Question
You know the Extra information they've shown on top of the episodes, can I put them on the episodes pages here?
Tomoaki Araide
http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Vermouth#Hints_that_Vermouth_was_Dr._Araide_and_not_Jodie
<<Also, "Dr. Araide" claims to have sent his grandmother and housekeeper Hikaru ahead to Aomori, which is strange because it was established in the Araide family murder case[29] that Araide didn't trust them (especially Hikaru) to take care of themselves.[30]>>
The source is there but is not accurate. I myself am not able to find that phrase, as it is important you please put the exact source? thank you very much --User:Fra90snake 17:16, 4 June 2013 (CEST)
- If you are getting a source from mangareader, you probably have a bad translation because online readers typically do not post better quality re-edits. This is the best fan translation I can find. I do not have Viz's volume, but I will inquire after the English as well. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 09:24, 6 June 2013 (PDT)
No no, I'm not talking about that phrase said by Otonashi. I'm talking about this:
http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Vermouth#Hints_that_Vermouth_was_Dr._Araide_and_not_Jodie
<<Also, "Dr. Araide" claims to have sent his grandmother and housekeeper Hikaru ahead to Aomori, which is strange because it was established in the Araide family murder case[29] that Araide didn't trust them (especially Hikaru) to take care of themselves.[30]>>
The sources must be of episodes 170-171. Araide said this thing about Hikaru and grandmother in those episodes --User:Fra90snake 19:17, 4 June 2013 (CEST)