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{{InfoBox TV
 
{{InfoBox TV
 
| episode            = 792-793
 
| episode            = 792-793
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| int-episode        = 845-846
 
| image              = TV Episode 792-793.jpg
 
| image              = TV Episode 792-793.jpg
 
| title              = Three First Discoverers
 
| title              = Three First Discoverers
| japanese-title      = 三人の第一発見者<br />(San'nin no Daiichihakkensha<sup>[[Help:Japanese|?]]</sup>)
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| japanese-title      = 三人の第一発見者 <br> (San'nin no Daiichihakkensha<sup>[[Help:Japanese|?]]</sup>)
 
| rating              = 6.1% <br> 7.1%
 
| rating              = 6.1% <br> 7.1%
 
| Manga case number  = #262
 
| Manga case number  = #262
| airdate            = September 19, 2015 (Part 1)<br />September 26, 2015 (Part 2)
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| airdate            = September 19, 2015 (Part 1) <br> September 26, 2015 (Part 2)
| season              = [[Season 24|24]]
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| season              = [[Season 20|20]]
 
| manga              = [[Volume 86#Scriptwriter Murder Case|Volume 86: Files 2-4 (906-908)]]
 
| manga              = [[Volume 86#Scriptwriter Murder Case|Volume 86: Files 2-4 (906-908)]]
| cast                = [[Conan Edogawa]]<br />[[Ai Haibara]]<br>[[Detective Boys]]<br>[[Juzo Megure|Inspector Megure]]<br />[[Wataru Takagi|Detective Takagi]]<br />[[Hidemi Hondou]]<br>[[Rei Furuya]]<br>[[Subaru Okiya]]<br>[[Shuichi Akai]]<br>[[Jodie Starling]]<br>[[Andre Camel]]<br>[[Wikipedia:Lum Invader|Lum Invader]]
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| cast                = [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Ai Haibara]] <br> [[Detective Boys]] <br> [[Juzo Megure]] <br> [[Wataru Takagi]] <br> [[Hidemi Hondou]] <br> [[Rei Furuya]] <br> [[Subaru Okiya]] <br> [[Shuichi Akai]] <br> [[Jodie Starling]] <br> [[Andre Camel]] <br> [[Wikipedia: Lum Invader|Lum Invader]]
 
| suspects            =
 
| suspects            =
 
| solved-by          = [[Conan Edogawa]]
 
| solved-by          = [[Conan Edogawa]]
| next-conan-hint    = Tobacco (Part 1)<br>500 thousand yen (Part 2)
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| next-conan-hint    = Tobacco (Part 1) <br> 500 thousand yen (Part 2)
 
| case                =
 
| case                =
 
| director            = [[Yasuichiro Yamamoto]]
 
| director            = [[Yasuichiro Yamamoto]]
 
| organizer          = [[Umesaburo Sagawa]]
 
| organizer          = [[Umesaburo Sagawa]]
 
| storyboard          = [[Umesaburo Sagawa]]
 
| storyboard          = [[Umesaburo Sagawa]]
| producer            = 792 [[Keisuke Shinohara]]<br>793 [[Minoru Tozawa]]
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| producer            = 792 [[Keisuke Shinohara]] <br> 793 [[Minoru Tozawa]]
| animation-director  = 792 [[Masatomo Sudo]] (supervisor), [[Seiji Muta]] (supervisor), [[Nariyuki Takahashi]], [[Tomoko Fukunaga]]<br>793 [[Masatomo Sudo]] (supervisor), [[Seiji Muta]] (supervisor), [[Keiko Sasaki]]
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| animation-director  = [[Masatomo Sudo]] and [[Seiji Muta]] (supervisors) <br> 792 [[Nariyuki Takahashi]], [[Tomoko Fukunaga]] <br> 793 [[Keiko Sasaki]]
| voice-cast          = [[Minami Takayama]] as [[Conan Edogawa]]<br />[[Chafurin]] as [[Juzo Megure|Inspector Megure]]<br />[[Wataru Takagi (voice actor)|Wataru Takagi]] as [[Wataru Takagi|Detective Takagi]] and [[Genta Kojima]]<br />[[Megumi Hayashibara]] as [[Ai Haibara]] and [[Wikipedia:Lum Invader|Lum Invader]]<br />[[Yukiko Iwai]] as [[Ayumi Yoshida]]<br />[[Ikue Otani]] as [[Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya]]<br>[[Ryotaro Okiayu]] as [[Subaru Okiya]]<br>[[Shuichi Ikeda]] as [[Shuichi Akai]] and [[Subaru Okiya]]<br>[[Miyuki Ichijou]] as [[Jodie Starling]]<br>[[Kiyoyuki Yanada]] as [[Andre Camel]]<br>[[Yu Kobayashi]] as Mamoru Ganno<ref group="nb">In the closing song, Mamoru's name was indicated as '''Boy'''.</ref><br>[[Tadashi Miyazawa]] as Denji Shibakaru<br>[[Ryuzaburo Otomo]] as Kuramichi Habanaka<br>[[Masahito Yabe]] as Ronpei Sakaba<br>[[Ryuzo Hasuike]] as Reporter
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| character-design    = [[Masatomo Sudo]] <br> [[Kumiko Shishido]] (design works)
 +
| voice-cast          = [[Minami Takayama]] as [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Chafurin]] as [[Juzo Megure]] <br> [[Wataru Takagi (voice actor)|Wataru Takagi]] as [[Wataru Takagi]] and [[Genta Kojima]] <br> [[Megumi Hayashibara]] as [[Ai Haibara]] and [[Wikipedia: Lum Invader|Lum Invader]] <br> [[Yukiko Iwai]] as [[Ayumi Yoshida]] <br> [[Ikue Otani]] as [[Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya]] <br> [[Ryotaro Okiayu]] as [[Subaru Okiya]] <br> [[Shuichi Ikeda]] as [[Shuichi Akai]] and [[Subaru Okiya]] <br> [[Miyuki Ichijou]] as [[Jodie Starling]] <br> [[Kiyoyuki Yanada]] as [[Andre Camel]] <br> [[Yu Kobayashi]] as Mamoru Ganno<ref group="nb">In the credit, Mamoru's name was indicated as '''Boy'''.</ref><br> [[Tadashi Miyazawa]] as Denji Shibakaru <br> [[Ryuzaburo Otomo]] as Kuramichi Habanaka <br> [[Masahito Yabe]] as Ronpei Sakaba <br> [[Ryuzo Hasuike]] as Reporter
 
| opening-song        = Nazo (La PomPon){{!}}Nazo
 
| opening-song        = Nazo (La PomPon){{!}}Nazo
 
| closing-song        = Kimi e no Uso
 
| closing-song        = Kimi e no Uso
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| footnotes          =
 
| footnotes          =
 
}}
 
}}
{{nihongo|'''''Three First Discoverers'''''|三人の第一発見者|San'nin no Daiichihakkensha}} is the 792nd and 793rd episode of the ''[[Detective Conan]]''. In this episode, the first and second hints about [[Rum]] are introduced.
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{{nihongo|'''''Three First Discoverers'''''|三人の第一発見者|San'nin no Daiichihakkensha}} is the 792nd and 793rd episode of the ''[[Detective Conan]]''. These are also the episodes where Rum's possible physical appearance is being talked by Conan.  
  
 
== Cast ==
 
== Cast ==
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{{char|Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya}}
 
{{char|Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya}}
 
{{char|Genta Kojima}}
 
{{char|Genta Kojima}}
{{char|Juzo Megure|display=Inspector Megure}}
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{{char|Juzo Megure}}
{{char|Wataru Takagi|display=Detective Takagi}}
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{{char|Wataru Takagi}}
{{char|Rum|"The Criminal"|display=Rum<br>(Criminal silhouette)}}
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{{char|Hidemi Hondou|display=Hidemi Hondou (background)}}
{{char|Hidemi Hondou|display=Hidemi Hondou (Background)}}
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{{char|Rei Furuya|display=Rei Furuya (background)}}
{{char|Rei Furuya|display=Rei Furuya (Background)}}
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{{char|Rum|"The Criminal"|display=Rum (black figure background)}}
 
{{char|Jodie Starling}}
 
{{char|Jodie Starling}}
 
{{char|Subaru Okiya}}
 
{{char|Subaru Okiya}}
{{char|Shuichi Akai|display=Shuichi Akai (Background/Voice)}}
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{{char|Shuichi Akai|display=Shuichi Akai (background/voice)}}
 
{{char|Andre Camel}}
 
{{char|Andre Camel}}
{{char|wikipedia:Lum Invader|Lum Invader|display=Lum Invader (Cameo)}}
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{{char|Wikipedia: Lum Invader|Lum Invader|display=Lum Invader<br>(cameo)}}
 
}}
 
}}
  
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{{gadgets Appearances|
 
{{gadgets Appearances|
 
{{gadget|Detective Boys Badge}}
 
{{gadget|Detective Boys Badge}}
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{{Gadget|Voice-Changing Choker}}
 
}}
 
}}
  
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=== Situation ===
 
=== Situation ===
 
==== Part 1 ====
 
==== Part 1 ====
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After the Detective Boys have played soccer, Conan asks Haibara about Rum. She reveals that she never met him, but she has hear three different descriptions of him. He should either be a strong man, a feminine-looking man or a old man. She also recalls that he had a characteristic, that everyone in the organization agreed on, but she can't remember what. Ayumi suddenly sees an young boy standing and staring at an apartment. She remembered that he had also been standing there earliere that day. When the children asks him, the boy breaks down crying. He tells them that a woman who lives in the apartment had asks him to keep an eye on her door. She was going to have three visitors, and if she didn't come out after the last one had left, then she had been murdered, and the boy should call the police. The Detective Boys decide to check out the apartment, and on their way, the boy (named Mamoru) tells them, that he barely knows the lady. After losing his parents to a robbery and murder where 2 million yen was stolen, he moved in with his uncle and lost contact with his old friends. The lady would sometimes come and play with him on the playground, when he was lonely.
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{{InfoBox Crime
 
{{InfoBox Crime
| crime              = Murder
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| crime              = Suicide?
 
| image              = EP792-793 Case.jpg
 
| image              = EP792-793 Case.jpg
 
| location            = Yasue Komai's apartment
 
| location            = Yasue Komai's apartment
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| cause-death        = Hanging
 
| cause-death        = Hanging
 
| suspects            = Ronpei Sakaba, Kuramichi Habanaka, and Denji Shibakaru
 
| suspects            = Ronpei Sakaba, Kuramichi Habanaka, and Denji Shibakaru
| description        =  
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| description        =
 
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{{beginBox}}
 
{{beginBox}}
 
{{people|Mamoru Ganno|Mamoru Ganno.jpg|
 
{{people|Mamoru Ganno|Mamoru Ganno.jpg|
* Witness}}
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* Elementary school boy}}
 
{{people|Yasue Komai|Yasue Komai.jpg|
 
{{people|Yasue Komai|Yasue Komai.jpg|
 
* Victim (hanged)
 
* Victim (hanged)
* Scenario writer
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* Screenplay writer
 
* About 47 kilograms}}
 
* About 47 kilograms}}
 
{{people|Kuramichi Habanaka|Kuramichi Habanaka.jpg|
 
{{people|Kuramichi Habanaka|Kuramichi Habanaka.jpg|
 
* 40 years old
 
* 40 years old
* First discoverer
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* Toto TV producer
* [[Rum]]'s first physical description}}
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* Matches Rum's first physical description}}  
 
{{people|Ronpei Sakaba|Ronpei Sakaba.jpg|
 
{{people|Ronpei Sakaba|Ronpei Sakaba.jpg|
 
* 31 years old
 
* 31 years old
* First discoverer
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* Matches Rum's second physical description}}
* [[Rum]]'s second physical description}}
 
 
{{people|Denji Shibakaru|Denji Shibakaru.jpg|
 
{{people|Denji Shibakaru|Denji Shibakaru.jpg|
 
* 63 years old
 
* 63 years old
* First discoverer
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* Matches Rum's third physical description}}
* [[Rum]]'s third physical description}}
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{{people|Man|reporter1.png|
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* Reporter}}
 
{{endBox}}
 
{{endBox}}
  
 
=== Resolution ===
 
=== Resolution ===
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<spoiler>Shibakaru admits that the phone that rings in his pocket belongs to the victim. Conan reveals that the victim did commit '''suicide''' to expose the three suspects' past crime to the media. She and the three suspects were the culprits in the 2 million yen robbery and murder. She had arranged a footstand made by the money and the manuscript, which she kicked away to hang herself. Two of the suspects took the money and the manuscript away, and hence got rid of the evidence of a footstand, so the suicide would appear like a murder. Conan thinks the victim made the wrong decision, because she had taken away the only friend that Mamoru had made.
Shibakaru admits that the phone that rings in his pocket belongs to the victim. [[Conan Edogawa|Conan]] reveals that the victim did commit suicide to expose the three suspects' past crime to the media.
 
  
[[Ai Haibara|Haibara]] tells Conan of the last characteristic of [[Rum]] that is the same from every source talking about him. He lost his eye in an accident and now one of his eye is a prosthesis.
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Haibara tells Conan of the last characteristic of Rum that is the same from every source talking about him. He lost his eye in an accident and now one of his eye is a prosthesis.</spoiler>
</spoiler>
 
  
 
== Trivia ==
 
== Trivia ==
* Lum Invader, a character from the external manga series ''[[wikipedia:Urusei Yatsura|Urusei Yatsura]]'' by Rumiko Takahashi, is a pun on the similar sounding of the names "Lum" and "Rum" due to the Japanese pronounciation of the Katakana syllable "ラ" ("ra") used in both. In the Japanese original, Haibara adds the word "-daccha", which is a famous speech affection used by Lum.
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* Lum Invader, a character from the external manga series ''[[Wikipedia: Urusei Yatsura|Urusei Yatsura]]'' by Rumiko Takahashi, is a pun on the similar sounding of the names "Lum" and "Rum" due to the Japanese pronounciation of the Katakana syllable "{{lang|ja|}}" ("ra") used in both. In the Japanese original, Haibara adds the word "-datcha", which is a famous speech affection used by Lum.
** Incidentally, Fumi Hirano, Lum's voice actress in the manga's animated conversion, previously performed the role of Reiko Shimizu in the ''Detective Conan'' movie ''[[The Private Eyes' Requiem]]''.
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:* Incidentally, Fumi Hirano, Lum's voice actress in the anime version, previously performed the role of Reiko Shimizu in [[The Private Eyes' Requiem]]
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<spoiler>
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::* She later voiced [[Rumi Wakasa]], one of Rum's potential true identities.</spoiler>
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* The name of the suspects come from different brands of rums<ref>{{cite web|url=https://w.atwiki.jp/aniwotawiki/pages/37524.html|accessdate=2023-06-29|title=三人の第一発見者(名探偵コナン)}}</ref>:
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** Mamoru Gan'no (雁野 守) comes from {{nihongo|[[Wikipedia: Captain Morgan|Captain Morgan]]|キャプテン・モルガン|Kyaputan Morugan}};
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** Yasue Komai (駒井 保江) comes from {{nihongo|[[Wikipedia: Myers's Rum|Myer's]]|マイヤーズ|Maiyāzu}};
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** Denji Shibakaru (柴苅 殿治) comes from {{nihongo|[[Wikipedia: Bacardi|Bacardi]]|バカルディ|Bakarudi}};
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** Ronpei Sakaba (阪場 論平) comes from {{nihongo|[[Wikipedia: Ron Zacapa Centenario|Ron Zacapa Centenario]]|ロン・サカパ・センテナリオ|Ron Sakapa Sentenario}};
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** Kuramichi Habanaka (幅中 倉道) comes from {{nihongo|[[Wikipedia: Havana Club|Havana Club]]|ハバナ・クラブ|Habana Kurabu}}.
  
 
== Gallery ==
 
== Gallery ==
 
{{main gallery}}
 
{{main gallery}}
<gallery widths=185 perrow=5>
 
File:792 Lum.jpg|[[Wikipedia:Lum Invader|Lum Invader]]
 
File:792 Hidemi.jpg|[[Hidemi Hondou|Hidemi Hondou/Rena Mizunashi/Kir]]
 
File:792 Rei.jpg|[[Rei Furuya|Rei Furuya/Tooru Amuro/Bourbon]]
 
File:792 Rum1.jpg|[[Rum]]'s silhouette ①
 
File:792 Rum2.jpg|Rum's silhouette ②
 
File:792 Rum3.jpg|Rum's silhouette ③
 
File:793 fake eye.jpg|Fake eyes
 
</gallery>
 
  
== References ==
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== In other languages ==
<references group="nb" />
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{{BeginTable EpLang}}
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{{EpLangItem|flag=Catalonia|Catalan (Catalan dub)|Els tres primers d'arribar|The first three that arrived}}
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{{EpLangItem|flag=Thailand|Thai|ผู้พบเหตุคนแรกทั้งสาม|Three First Discoverers}}
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{{EpLangItem|flag=Vietnam|Vietnamese|Ba người phát hiện đầu tiên|Three First Discoverers}}
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{{EndTable}}
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== Footnotes ==
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=== Notes ===
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<references group="nb"/>
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=== References ===
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{{reflist}}
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
* [[Season 24]]
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* [[Season 20]]
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{{season 20}}
  
{{season 24}}
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[[Category:Episodes]]
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[[Category:Animation directed by Nariyuki Takahashi]]
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[[Category:Animation directed by Tomoko Fukunaga]]
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[[Category:Animation directed by Keiko Sasaki]]
  
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Latest revision as of 23:14, 18 November 2024

Chronology
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Episode 792-793
(Int. Episode 845-846)

TV Episode 792-793.jpg

Information
Title: Three First Discoverers
Japanese title: 三人の第一発見者
(San'nin no Daiichihakkensha?)
Original airdate: September 19, 2015 (Part 1)
September 26, 2015 (Part 2)
Broadcast rating: 6.1%
7.1%
Manga case: #262
Season: 20
Manga source: Volume 86: Files 2-4 (906-908)
Case
Cast: Conan Edogawa
Ai Haibara
Detective Boys
Juzo Megure
Wataru Takagi
Hidemi Hondou
Rei Furuya
Subaru Okiya
Shuichi Akai
Jodie Starling
Andre Camel
Lum Invader
Case solved by: Conan Edogawa
Next Conan's Hint: Tobacco (Part 1)
500 thousand yen (Part 2)
Staff
Director: Yasuichiro Yamamoto
Organizer: Umesaburo Sagawa
Storyboard: Umesaburo Sagawa
Episode director: 792 Keisuke Shinohara
793 Minoru Tozawa
Animation director: Masatomo Sudo and Seiji Muta (supervisors)
792 Nariyuki Takahashi, Tomoko Fukunaga
793 Keiko Sasaki
Character design: Masatomo Sudo
Kumiko Shishido (design works)
Music
Opening song: Nazo
Closing song: Kimi e no Uso

Three First Discoverers (三人の第一発見者 San'nin no Daiichihakkensha?) is the 792nd and 793rd episode of the Detective Conan. These are also the episodes where Rum's possible physical appearance is being talked by Conan.

Cast

Gadgets

Case

Situation

Part 1

After the Detective Boys have played soccer, Conan asks Haibara about Rum. She reveals that she never met him, but she has hear three different descriptions of him. He should either be a strong man, a feminine-looking man or a old man. She also recalls that he had a characteristic, that everyone in the organization agreed on, but she can't remember what. Ayumi suddenly sees an young boy standing and staring at an apartment. She remembered that he had also been standing there earliere that day. When the children asks him, the boy breaks down crying. He tells them that a woman who lives in the apartment had asks him to keep an eye on her door. She was going to have three visitors, and if she didn't come out after the last one had left, then she had been murdered, and the boy should call the police. The Detective Boys decide to check out the apartment, and on their way, the boy (named Mamoru) tells them, that he barely knows the lady. After losing his parents to a robbery and murder where 2 million yen was stolen, he moved in with his uncle and lost contact with his old friends. The lady would sometimes come and play with him on the playground, when he was lonely.

Suicide?

EP792-793 Case.jpg

Location: Yasue Komai's apartment
Victim: Yasue Komai
Cause of death: Hanging
Suspects: Ronpei Sakaba, Kuramichi Habanaka, and Denji Shibakaru

Part 2

People

  • Resolution

    Trivia

    • Lum Invader, a character from the external manga series Urusei Yatsura by Rumiko Takahashi, is a pun on the similar sounding of the names "Lum" and "Rum" due to the Japanese pronounciation of the Katakana syllable "" ("ra") used in both. In the Japanese original, Haibara adds the word "-datcha", which is a famous speech affection used by Lum.
    • Incidentally, Fumi Hirano, Lum's voice actress in the anime version, previously performed the role of Reiko Shimizu in The Private Eyes' Requiem
    • The name of the suspects come from different brands of rums[1]:
      • Mamoru Gan'no (雁野 守) comes from Captain Morgan (キャプテン・モルガン Kyaputan Morugan?);
      • Yasue Komai (駒井 保江) comes from Myer's (マイヤーズ Maiyāzu?);
      • Denji Shibakaru (柴苅 殿治) comes from Bacardi (バカルディ Bakarudi?);
      • Ronpei Sakaba (阪場 論平) comes from Ron Zacapa Centenario (ロン・サカパ・センテナリオ Ron Sakapa Sentenario?);
      • Kuramichi Habanaka (幅中 倉道) comes from Havana Club (ハバナ・クラブ Habana Kurabu?).

    Gallery

    In other languages

    Language Title Translation
    Flag of Catalonia Catalan (Catalan dub) Els tres primers d'arribar The first three that arrived
    Flag of Thailand Thai ผู้พบเหตุคนแรกทั้งสาม Three First Discoverers
    Flag of Vietnam Vietnamese Ba người phát hiện đầu tiên Three First Discoverers

    Footnotes

    Notes

    1. ^ In the credit, Mamoru's name was indicated as Boy.

    References

    See also

    Episodes of Season 20
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